I live in central Mississippi and for the last several nights I've been getting a decent signal on 880 AM at night with some form of talk radio from Tampa. The station ID if for AM 1250 and all of the commercials are for Tampa/St. Petersburg businesses. I checked Radio-Locator and 880 AM is not listed for Tampa. any idea what I'm picking up? Normally AM 880 in central Mississippi is unlistenable. the only thing you can hear is just a mix of slop mixed with some spanish. On rare occasions I've heard WCBS New York, but thats only a certain times and hard to hear. The other night it was one of those vitamin pill shows being broadcast from Tampa with what sounded like a local host. Station ID was for 1250 AM. I checked back later and heard WCBS New York until I lost the signal under the noise and spanish. Is this some malfunction of my radio, or is this some sort of simulcast from another area? There is an 880 AM in Clearwater, but I've never picked anything up from that far south in Florida. As a matter of fact its rare to pick up anything in my area from florida except from an occasional nightime from Mobile/Pensecola.
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880 AM Tampa?
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flytrap said:
I think you're hearing KLRG Sheridan, in central Arkansas. For some bizarre reason (probably no better than that they're co-owned) they're reportedly relaying WTAN-1340 Clearwater, Florida.
I'm having trouble explaining the "AM 1250" ID but wonder if it might be 1350? (they do own a 1350 station in western Florida)
Yes, they are simultasting WTAN-AM 1340 Clearwater, WDCF-AM 1350 Dade City, and KLRG-AM 880 Little Rock. Why, because they can I guess. I think eventually 880 will get its own programming. Too big of a daytime signal (50,000 watts omni) to waste. Nighttime signal of only 220 watts highly directional limited pretty much to city of license, Sheridan, AR, only. If you are getting it after local sundown you must be getting a little skip off a side lobe, they are heavily protecting WCBS in New York.
The sheridan, Ark station did come to mind. That station is quite powerful (50kw) and can be heard on a clear day in Jackson, MS. It can usually be hard well early mornings and late afternoons when they are still on daytime power. The are only 220 watts at night so its doubtful I could be getting much of a signal here unless they are forgetting to power down. If they were leaving it up to 50kw it would be a blowtorch and be heard nation wide. The signal at my location is marginal at best. If I'm hearing the clearwater 880 signal or some other station why would all of the commercials, weather etc. be for the Tampa area? In the beginning I thought maybe 1250 had moved to a new frequency but Radio-locator says there is no 880 in Tampa. I haven't had time to listen to a legal ID at the top of the hour but for the short time I listened to 880, it was programming from 1250 in Tamp. It could be some sort of screw up somewhere. I've heard weirder things like this. Our local WSLI 930 in Jackson, MS once simulcast WSB 750 in Atlanta in the overnight while the station was ususally off the air. At six AM WSLI programming resumed like nothing ever happened. A couple of other local stations occasionally had STL problems resulting in another local station's audio being sent to the wrong transmitter. But the 880/1250 simulcast from Tampa has me stumped
OK, big deep breath.
1) there is no 880 in tampa/clearwater area. You ARE hearing KLRG 880 in Little Rock, AR. It is playing the same programming from the owners other stations in Clearwater, Fl., see my earlier post.
2) Clearwater, FL is part of the Tampa metro area which is why you hear Tampa mentioned. Tampa/Clearwater/St. Petersburg is a combined Arbitron market, #18 I think.
3) as mentioned before by another poster, I think if you listen real close you will hear 1350 NOT 1250 as part of their ID. This is WDCF located in Dade City, FL, also owned by Dave Wagenvoord, owner of WTAN and KLRG, and carries the same programming. They ID all three stations at TOH.
4) there is a 1250 in Tampa, but, it is in Tampa and has nothing to do with any of this.
5) their website is www.tantalk1340.com listen to the audio stream and it should be what you are hearing over the air.
I hope this helps clear up your confusion.
1) there is no 880 in tampa/clearwater area. You ARE hearing KLRG 880 in Little Rock, AR. It is playing the same programming from the owners other stations in Clearwater, Fl., see my earlier post.
2) Clearwater, FL is part of the Tampa metro area which is why you hear Tampa mentioned. Tampa/Clearwater/St. Petersburg is a combined Arbitron market, #18 I think.
3) as mentioned before by another poster, I think if you listen real close you will hear 1350 NOT 1250 as part of their ID. This is WDCF located in Dade City, FL, also owned by Dave Wagenvoord, owner of WTAN and KLRG, and carries the same programming. They ID all three stations at TOH.
4) there is a 1250 in Tampa, but, it is in Tampa and has nothing to do with any of this.
5) their website is www.tantalk1340.com listen to the audio stream and it should be what you are hearing over the air.
I hope this helps clear up your confusion.
I had already figured out that it was most likely the Arkansas station. But about hearing 1250 in Tampa, I believe I was right all along. The show that I heard was one of those vitamin pill/nutrition shows. I checked the website of 1250 WHNZ Tampa and lo and behold they have a show called 'Lets talk Nutrition" which is indeed also broadcast over KLRG 880 in Arkansas. I knew I wasn't imagining hearing 1250 on 880. I can't verify whats on 880, because all I've heard in the last few nights is spanish and static, with a very faint New York in the background. So I wasn't crazy after all.
Crazy is a strong word, you can believe whatever you want my friend. But you can also take my word for this, you were hearing the simulcast from WTAN/WDCF over KLRG. Both WTAN and WHNZ sell block programs and both have all kinds of vitamin and nutrition programs. But 1250 WHNZ is owned by Clear Channel and has absolutely nothing to do with WTAN, WDCF, or KLRG which are all owned by Dave Wagenvoord.
You asked a question on this board and received an answer, why do you continue to argue the point?? I have read, and reread, your original post and what I understand is that you were hearing this tampa programming over 880. If in fact your dial was on 1250 and I have misunderstood all of what you have written, then I apologize. But the probability of 1250's actual programming coming out over 880 in Little Rock AR is nil. And the probability of hearing 1350 WDCF ID'ed over 880 is 100% since they ID all three stations at TOH during the simulcast. I cant speak for the nutrition show who may at some point during the program mention all the stations he broadcasts on which could include 1250 WHNZ and 1350 WDCF.
You asked a question on this board and received an answer, why do you continue to argue the point?? I have read, and reread, your original post and what I understand is that you were hearing this tampa programming over 880. If in fact your dial was on 1250 and I have misunderstood all of what you have written, then I apologize. But the probability of 1250's actual programming coming out over 880 in Little Rock AR is nil. And the probability of hearing 1350 WDCF ID'ed over 880 is 100% since they ID all three stations at TOH during the simulcast. I cant speak for the nutrition show who may at some point during the program mention all the stations he broadcasts on which could include 1250 WHNZ and 1350 WDCF.
RMarino said:
... because infomercials are about the only way for many AMs to make any money today.
Nostalgia said:
The program eminates from St Petersburg and if there is a flagship station it would be 1250 WHNZ. They do mention the calls and various local businesses. If the shows on 880 were aired tape delayed, I'm thinking someone there might have forgotten to cover the "local" breaks, thus you would have the calls, local spots from Tampa/St Pete etc.
The program eminates from St Petersburg and if there is a flagship station it would be 1250 WHNZ. They do mention the calls and various local businesses. If the shows on 880 were aired tape delayed, I'm thinking someone there might have forgotten to cover the "local" breaks, thus you would have the calls, local spots from Tampa/St Pete etc.
Thank you. All I did was start a thread telling what I had heard on the radio. After I posted the thread I figured out that it was the station in arkansas. While I was typing one of the replies, another reply was posted telling me to "take a deep breath" because apparantly I'm an idiot. All it took was a little detective work to find out what I was really listening too. Yes I know it is 880 in Arkansas. Yes I know they are owned by the same people that own a station at 1350 in Clearwater. And yes indeed I did hear 1250 AM mentioned on 880 in Arkansas. And yes 880 does carry the same show that is aired on 1250 in Tampa, but at a later time. I don't care if 1250,. 1350 and 880 are owned by differnent people. I know what I heard. It doesn't really matter anyway, I could care less about some snake oil colon blow commericals on 3 bottom feeding radio stations in florida or arkansas have on. I don't even live in either state. I was just reporting on what I heard. I really doesn't amount to a hill of beans. I wasn't the one that made an argument about it. This is the last time I will comment on this subject.
Thank you. All I did was start a thread telling what I had heard on the radio. After I posted the thread I figured out that it was the station in arkansas. While I was typing one of the replies, another reply was posted telling me to "take a deep breath" because apparantly I'm an idiot. All it took was a little detective work to find out what I was really listening too. Yes I know it is 880 in Arkansas. Yes I know they are owned by the same people that own a station at 1350 in Clearwater. And yes indeed I did hear 1250 AM mentioned on 880 in Arkansas. And yes 880 does carry the same show that is aired on 1250 in Tampa, but at a later time. I don't care if 1250,. 1350 and 880 are owned by differnent people. I know what I heard. It doesn't really matter anyway, I could care less about some snake oil colon blow commericals on 3 bottom feeding radio stations in florida or arkansas have on. I don't even live in either state. I was just reporting on what I heard. I really doesn't amount to a hill of beans. I wasn't the one that made an argument about it. This is the last time I will comment on this subject.
FlyTrap, your post was most interesting. I think Studio20 may be correct why you heard 1250 their in Ark.
Don't worry about that other post, He may be a know it all.
Dennis Smith
New Port Richey
Don't worry about that other post, He may be a know it all.
Dennis Smith
New Port Richey
It wopuld not surprise me that Dave and Lola are rebroadcasting someone else's radio station. After all, a buck is a buck. ;D
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