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880 dead air
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rbrucecarter5
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mrbeasley said:
I wish they would stay dead air rather than broadcast their former format. Or change to something Houston really wants like oldies. Right now, getting WWL is a little easier because 880 isn't slopping over on 870.
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purpledevil
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mrbeasley said:
They had temporary authorization to test on 1680, from a site near Baytown, IIRC. They are trying to move KJOZ out of Conroe, but have run into one obstacle after another with both WWL-New Orleans and KREH-Pecan Grove objecting to the move, citing interference issues from the proposed KJOZ site. Was this day or night, Mr. Beasley? I've not heard a peep from 880 in several months, since they turned it off in anticipation of the move.
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rbrucecarter5
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purpledevil said:
And WWL should protest! They have no daytime audience here, but there are a lot of Katrina transplants in Houston that want to hear WWL at night.
rbrucecarter5 said:
Thanks for the update on KJOZ 880 guys. They have a STA to remain silent until September 24.
They also have an application to change the city of license to Baytown.
Application Type: REMAIN SILENT AUTHORITY & SILENT NOTIFICATION
Status: GRANTED
Status Date: 03/28/2013
Expiration Date: 09/24/2013
KREH-Pecan Grove objected to the KJOZ tower move on Mar 14 2013 and WWL did on Apr 3 2013.
Will the FCC dismiss the KJOZ 880 Baytown application? KJOZ will have pretty good coverage of
Houston if they get the FCC CP and actually build it out.
KJOZ Correspondence Folder
Informal Filings
Date Filed Informal Filing Type Details
Mar 14 2013 1:46PM Informal Objection Click to View Filing KREH-Pecan Grove
Apr 3 2013 11:51AM Informal Objection Click to View Filing WWL
rbrucecarter5 said:
I doubt that. While there are a large number of Katrina refugees in Houston, I doubt they have any interest in whatever WWL has on at night. Katrina was eight years ago. Those refugees who have stayed have emotionally moved on. WWL is distant AM radio. There's no interest amongst the general listening public. 40+ years ago, perhaps yes, but not today. DXers should not confuse themselves with the average radio listener.
Besides, if WWL had no issue with the old KJOZ transmitter facility, why would the new one make any difference? The signal is not aimed at New Orleans. And Houston is irrelevant to WWL's marketing and sales.
I have absolutely no interest in KJOZ's programming, but I hope they get the upgrade. The current licensed signal is not viable.
Don't discount stations like WWL. My station wanted to get 6 watts at night hundreds of miles from the station that tried to block us. The guy told us there was not enough money in the world to keep him from protesting any changes to the frequency both of our stations shared. The way he saw it, if he didn't fight everybody in the nation on his frequency he'd lose what he had. I have a few choice words because the person I am speaking of has a different philosophy that I find disgusting but whether I like his thinking or not, he has been successful in fighting off any upgrade from anyone that tried.
WWL might say Houston does matter and they might complain. We know different but the way they see it, any approved application on their frequency means losing something they had or might have if they can fend off the applicant.
One radio operator I know speaking about Low Power FM, said this: if they take 1 listener or $1 of my revenue, I'll do whatever it takes to destroy them. To be fair, he felt the same way with any station after him. One AM came to his town to sell and he spent a good while trying to hurt them and finding better positions for the top people. The station was a solid market leader nobody seemed to be able to take down and he was very solid in revenue and share of advertising dollars.
WWL might say Houston does matter and they might complain. We know different but the way they see it, any approved application on their frequency means losing something they had or might have if they can fend off the applicant.
One radio operator I know speaking about Low Power FM, said this: if they take 1 listener or $1 of my revenue, I'll do whatever it takes to destroy them. To be fair, he felt the same way with any station after him. One AM came to his town to sell and he spent a good while trying to hurt them and finding better positions for the top people. The station was a solid market leader nobody seemed to be able to take down and he was very solid in revenue and share of advertising dollars.
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purpledevil
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Might I ask, bturner, was the blocking of nighttime authorization at the station you are at currently? The reason I ask is because the co-channel to you in Stockdale upgraded and moved the tower out of Hallettsville to serve San Antonio, and I don't recall any petitions to deny being filed over it. I would be a bit miffed if that were the case and your station was not afforded the same opportunity as the San Antonio co-channel.
rbrucecarter5 said:
It would be interesting to know if anyone with access to streaming metrics knows if WWL has any listenership in the Houston area at all. I seriously doubt it.
I've worked with Katrina refugees who streamed stations from New Orleans, but not WWL. They streamed FM music stations.
bturner said:
IIRC it was for all of two watts from a rooftop antenna in the heavily Asian part of SW Houston. Might have covered a few square miles before being buried in the co-channel slop.
That was after KYND got approved for 249 watts. Yes the 2 watt was dismissed.... not the incident I was talking about and KOKC in Oklahoma City filed an objection to that but we knew the experimental type of set up was iffy at best...more of a way to show our client we were trying to help.
A lot of people do DX WWL AM when evacuating New Orleans for a hurricane.
mrbeasley said:
Lots of work being done right now on KJOZ 880. Antenna problems, transmitter problems (a very unhappy DX-10 blowing output caps is only one of the issues). A well known San Antonio consultant is working with ownership to clean up the messes.
DX-15 in our neighborhood was doing the same thing.
Fix involved replacing ALL of the big-blue caps.
There's a lot of 'em.
gabigley1 said:
Lynn Willoughby, one of the best in the business.
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purpledevil
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To update: As of my check on Friday, KJOZ is back on the air with Radio Aleluya programming, originating from the Conroe stick.
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