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9 V Jack...still on 105.9 in the end

T

towerman

After listening for a few days, I find Jack rather BORING. Just another Rock/AC hybrid format with what would seem to be a different rotator and hot schedule AND still with 12 minutes of spots an hour.

While NINE is bringing back the more current stuff in rotation (they've been doing that for a while), they are still all over the map...which is what they say the are.

They are two very different stations with very different sounds and presenations.

CBS must have seen something in the trends or research to give them the shove needed. If NINE was creeping in to the mainstream listening crowd, it forced CBS's hand before they could flip WCKG at the end of the year. It is entirely possible that Jack still would move after Stern is done there. Then CBS would ante up and bring back the oldies after "careful consideration and listener response." They'd pay the piper and go back to making $15M a year.

While the above is a possible (but doubtful) scenario, I'm sure there are others too which could occur. With them, you never know.

TM
 
You can say that JACK FM is trying to be like both suburban stations
which are The Nine FM 99.9 and The River 95.9

In fact, Jack FM is trying to compete with them,
so Jack can put them out of business...
 
> After listening for a few days, I find Jack rather BORING.
> Just another Rock/AC hybrid format with what would seem to
> be a different rotator and hot schedule AND still with 12
> minutes of spots an hour.
>
> While NINE is bringing back the more current stuff in
> rotation (they've been doing that for a while), they are
> still all over the map...which is what they say the are.
>
> They are two very different stations with very different
> sounds and presenations.
>
> CBS must have seen something in the trends or research to
> give them the shove needed. If NINE was creeping in to the
> mainstream listening crowd, it forced CBS's hand before they
> could flip WCKG at the end of the year. It is entirely
> possible that Jack still would move after Stern is done
> there. Then CBS would ante up and bring back the oldies
> after "careful consideration and listener response." They'd
> pay the piper and go back to making $15M a year.
>
> While the above is a possible (but doubtful) scenario, I'm
> sure there are others too which could occur. With them, you
> never know.
>
> TM
>

Jack seems to repeat a lot. It's gonna get stale fast.
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> Jack seems to repeat a lot. It's gonna get stale fast.
>

Maybe it is coincidence....but in the past 2-3 days, randomly flipping through and landing on Jack, I have heard alot of Prince repeats. Again, maybe it is coincidence of my turning the dial to the wrong place at the wrong time.
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> You can say that JACK FM is trying to be like both suburban
> stations
> which are The Nine FM 99.9 and The River 95.9

I'd guess that INF corporate has never heard either of those.

> In fact, Jack FM is trying to compete with them,
> so Jack can put them out of business...

For what reason? To absorb their combined shares and billing?
 
> > You can say that JACK FM is trying to be like both
> suburban
> > stations
> > which are The Nine FM 99.9 and The River 95.9
>
> I'd guess that INF corporate has never heard either of
> those.
>
> > In fact, Jack FM is trying to compete with them,
> > so Jack can put them out of business...
>
> For what reason? To absorb their combined shares and
> billing?
>
95.9 The River doesn't try to compete with Chicago. They serve the Aurora area, not Chicago. So The River doesn't see Jack being a threat, unless they tried to go up against Chicago stations like Nine-FM has. Also there's no primary coverage over Aurora with any city grade signal, so some peoples' radios won't get good reception of Jack-FM, or any Chicago station.
As for Nine-FM, Infinity has very well heard of them. They may have not shown up in the ratings, but word has gotten out from other media sources about Nine-FM. I personally prefer Nine-FM over Jack because of the larger variety of music.
 
> > In fact, Jack FM is trying to compete with them,
> > so Jack can put them out of business...
>
> For what reason? To absorb their combined shares and
> billing?

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"Z"
Music Coordinator/Technical Support</P>
 
> While the above is a possible (but doubtful) scenario, I'm
> sure there are others too which could occur. With them, you
> never know.

Chance of that happening is as good as Martians landing in Chicago on the same day.<P ID="signature">______________

"Z"
Music Coordinator/Technical Support</P>
 
It's J. Geils, Pat Benatar, Bruce Sprinsteen and Billy Joel all the time. Wow, creative!

> > Jack seems to repeat a lot. It's gonna get stale fast.
> >
>
> Maybe it is coincidence....but in the past 2-3 days,
> randomly flipping through and landing on Jack, I have heard
> alot of Prince repeats. Again, maybe it is coincidence of
> my turning the dial to the wrong place at the wrong time.
>
 
> As for Nine-FM, Infinity has very well heard of them. They
> may have not shown up in the ratings, but word has gotten
> out from other media sources about Nine-FM.

Great. The media creates hype where there is none and Infinity jumps on the bandwagon? I don't think Nine even matters to Infinity. It obviously doesn't matter to the 5 million people who can hear it with no problem and choose to not listen.
 
If they do kill FM Talk on CKG & feel the need to bring back oldies on FM, it would be much simpler to throw it on CKG rather than JMK. It would just be absolutely insane if they would flip JMK back. Guess we'll see what happens when Stern exits.

> After listening for a few days, I find Jack rather BORING.
> Just another Rock/AC hybrid format with what would seem to
> be a different rotator and hot schedule AND still with 12
> minutes of spots an hour.
>
> While NINE is bringing back the more current stuff in
> rotation (they've been doing that for a while), they are
> still all over the map...which is what they say the are.
>
> They are two very different stations with very different
> sounds and presenations.
>
> CBS must have seen something in the trends or research to
> give them the shove needed. If NINE was creeping in to the
> mainstream listening crowd, it forced CBS's hand before they
> could flip WCKG at the end of the year. It is entirely
> possible that Jack still would move after Stern is done
> there. Then CBS would ante up and bring back the oldies
> after "careful consideration and listener response." They'd
> pay the piper and go back to making $15M a year.
>
> While the above is a possible (but doubtful) scenario, I'm
> sure there are others too which could occur. With them, you
> never know.
>
> TM
>
 
> 95.9 The River doesn't try to compete with Chicago. They
> serve the Aurora area, not Chicago. So The River doesn't
> see Jack being a threat, unless they tried to go up against
> Chicago stations like Nine-FM has. Also there's no primary
> coverage over Aurora with any city grade signal, so some
> peoples' radios won't get good reception of Jack-FM, or any
> Chicago station.

I think the River has paid attention to the changes with Jack, but is not going to make any big moves like the 9 has. They have a few sweepers that I have heard on-air that welcome disenfranchised 'JMK listeners with lines like "you are welcome here" and "has the magic left your radio?" stuff like that. Otherwise it seems to be business as usual there.

Probably a better stategy, as most casual radio listeners (as it's been pointed out here and at Crow_On) probably don't even know that WJMK has changed yet, unless they are Oldies P1's. I know a lot of people that aren't into radio (unlike most us here) and they did not know about the change when I asked them about it as recently as today.
 
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