Why is the christian station on 90.5 now also on 101.7 ?? This is in Northern Chester/Western Montgomery Counties. If the station can be heard loud & clear on 90.5 then help me understand why they are now also on 101.7 loud and clear and causing inteferance issues with NJ 101.5 & 101.9 WAVT. This also now blocks out Kiss 101.7 which regularly comes in with dx conditions. This is a really stupid way of 'clogging' up the dial.
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90.5 also now on 101.7 ??
- Thread starter Rick_E
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This is the last thing that we need on an already crowded FM dial!! And, I do not understand why we need to have so many non-commercial stations that are licensed to the commercial band. Why is Princeton's station licensed to 103.3? It shouldn't be.
But the religious nutbag stations are the worst dial hogs of all! They totally clutter the airwaves in places like upstate New York with a myriad of translators and repeaters and now they are working on doing it here. Put that stuff on the non-comm end of the dial!!
Is there anything that can be done to appeal this?
But the religious nutbag stations are the worst dial hogs of all! They totally clutter the airwaves in places like upstate New York with a myriad of translators and repeaters and now they are working on doing it here. Put that stuff on the non-comm end of the dial!!
Is there anything that can be done to appeal this?
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eyg2181
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Rick_E said:Why is the christian station on 90.5 now also on 101.7 ?? This is in Northern Chester/Western Montgomery Counties. If the station can be heard loud & clear on 90.5 then help me understand why they are now also on 101.7 loud and clear and causing inteferance issues with NJ 101.5 & 101.9 WAVT. This also now blocks out Kiss 101.7 which regularly comes in with dx conditions. This is a really stupid way of 'clogging' up the dial.
good WAVT sucks, but i do agree it is pointless to run them on both frequencies.
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RunWithScissors
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What about the flamethrower on 97.1 using the PSFS tower, they overlap the same religious programming on 103.5 from Aston using the Crane tower on 95 and 452, I believe its WHXL.
RunWithScissors said:What about the flamethrower on 97.1 using the PSFS tower, they overlap the same religious programming on 103.5 from Aston using the Crane tower on 95 and 452, I believe its WHXL.
Yes, that non-commercial station (wasting commercial real estate) is another dial hog. Yet another station with programming that interests less than 0.05% of the listening audience. And, though I know no one at the FCC cares, they manage to single-handedly block 2 New York signals that would otherwise be receivable in areas to the northeast of Center City. Especially when you get into Lower Bucks County.
These religious broadcasters are particularly egregious about cramming the dial with a bunch of translators to broadcast their low quality schmegma that no one listens to.
More crap, less variety - it's today's FCC!!
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raydofan
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BRNout said:This is the last thing that we need on an already crowded FM dial!! And, I do not understand why we need to have so many non-commercial stations that are licensed to the commercial band. Why is Princeton's station licensed to 103.3? It shouldn't be.
We need WPRB, now more than ever. It's in the right place, and will be for the foreseeable future.
It is a commercial station.
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RadioStationDudeUSA
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It is licensed as a commercial station and they do run SOME commercials, I think.. but it's not fully "commercialized" like some stations are..raydofan said:BRNout said:This is the last thing that we need on an already crowded FM dial!! And, I do not understand why we need to have so many non-commercial stations that are licensed to the commercial band. Why is Princeton's station licensed to 103.3? It shouldn't be.
We need WPRB, now more than ever. It's in the right place, and will be for the foreseeable future.
It is a commercial station.
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RadioStationDudeUSA
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Rick_E said:Why is the christian station on 90.5 now also on 101.7 ?? This is in Northern Chester/Western Montgomery Counties. If the station can be heard loud & clear on 90.5 then help me understand why they are now also on 101.7 loud and clear and causing inteferance issues with NJ 101.5 & 101.9 WAVT. This also now blocks out Kiss 101.7 which regularly comes in with dx conditions. This is a really stupid way of 'clogging' up the dial.
If the FCC approved it, it's most likely ok.
Sure, it interferes with Nj 101.5 and 101.9 WAVT... but if the translator is outside the 60dbu contour of NJ 101.5 and WAVT, then you're out of luck. What you had beyond the 60dbu was "gravy" coverage, something we've become accustomed to.
And the translator interfeering with Kiss 101.7 under DX Conditions? Tough s&$%... the FCC doesn't give a crap about what interferes with your precious DXing..
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chuckydoll
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BRNout said:Why is Princeton's station licensed to 103.3? It shouldn't be.
WPRB was on the air at 103.3 prior to 1964. Because it's a pre-'64 allocation WPRB was allowed to move its antenna to the NJN tower near I-295 in Lawrence Twp.
RadioStationDudeUSA said:If the FCC approved it, it's most likely ok.
Sure, it interferes with Nj 101.5 and 101.9 WAVT... but if the translator is outside the 60dbu contour of NJ 101.5 and WAVT, then you're out of luck. What you had beyond the 60dbu was "gravy" coverage, something we've become accustomed to.
And the translator interfeering with Kiss 101.7 under DX Conditions? Tough s&$%... the FCC doesn't give a crap about what interferes with your precious DXing..
I am located just barely outside of both station's 60dbu contour. (Pottstown area, 54dbu maps attached)
This is a very, very, very tight fit, one that should not be allowed especially since 90.5 can be received. I wonder where this translator is orginating from. Also...My 'precious' Dxing is fun for some of us...no need to be sarcastic.
http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=FM594252.html
http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=FM26897.html
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RadioStationDudeUSA
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Im a DX'er too, so I understand...
It doesn't matter if the 90.5 signal can be heard or how tight the fit is.. if it fits, it fits....
It doesn't matter if the 90.5 signal can be heard or how tight the fit is.. if it fits, it fits....
"the biggest waste is the 97.1 wrdv translator in bensalem, which just makes that frequency an unusable mess, when wrdv is heard on 91.7 loud and clear in bristol a few miles away !"
The signal pattern for the Bensalem translator(97.1) and WLBS (91.7) is different,reaching the underserved audience that RDV-FM reaches. What I mean by that, is that most of programming that you hear on the other stations is geared to the 18-54 crowd and much of it is pretty much the same. Are you saying that it is a waste because a big part of the listeners are 55 and over? The programming at RDV is unique in this area because it doesn't broadcast the same thing that the other stations are. Just because I'm over the age that advertisers want to reach, doesn't mean that I am not entitled to hear programming over the airwaves. (and I don't want to listen to much of what the commercial stations are providing) RDV-FM provides programming that I would want to listen to.
The signal pattern for the Bensalem translator(97.1) and WLBS (91.7) is different,reaching the underserved audience that RDV-FM reaches. What I mean by that, is that most of programming that you hear on the other stations is geared to the 18-54 crowd and much of it is pretty much the same. Are you saying that it is a waste because a big part of the listeners are 55 and over? The programming at RDV is unique in this area because it doesn't broadcast the same thing that the other stations are. Just because I'm over the age that advertisers want to reach, doesn't mean that I am not entitled to hear programming over the airwaves. (and I don't want to listen to much of what the commercial stations are providing) RDV-FM provides programming that I would want to listen to.
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K-Tel
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Back to 90.5 (WVBV - Meford Lakes, NJ). The 101.7 is just one step in a GRAND plan. If their applications get approved, you COULD be hearing them all over New Jersey, Delaware and Pennsylvania (Philadelphia included). They're not the only ones looking for multiple translators across the tri-state either.
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eatspaste
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Rick_E said:Why is the christian station on 90.5 now also on 101.7 ?? This is in Northern Chester/Western Montgomery Counties. If the station can be heard loud & clear on 90.5 then help me understand why they are now also on 101.7 loud and clear and causing inteferance issues with NJ 101.5 & 101.9 WAVT. This also now blocks out Kiss 101.7 which regularly comes in with dx conditions. This is a really stupid way of 'clogging' up the dial.
If you have a legitimate interference complaint, all you have to do is (snail) mail a letter to the FCC saying so. Include your address, the translator causing the problem, and the station(s) you are trying to listen to. Go one step further, send a copy of the letter to the offending station that owns the translator (or the owner of the translator if different) so they have your comments in their public file.
The result: either absolutely nothing will happen or the FCC will accept your complaint - if enough people complain (legitimately), bye bye translator.
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