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90's Music on CBS-FM

I went to yes.com late last night that CBS-FM was playing a song called "I'm Every Woman" by the late Whirney Houstion at 9:38 AM yesterday morning. This song was a remake of a classic song by Chaka Kahn and it was a hit back in around 1992 or 1993. Did CBS-FM are starting to play music from the 90's on this station? Last weekend, they had an 80's weekend, but if they're going to play music from the 90's such as REM's "Losing My Religion", this one was a hit back in 1990 when Z100 used to played that song. I checked the NYRMB to see what is going on with CBS-FM if they are starting to play the 90's or not. CBS-FM is also be doing an 80's & 90's weekend, it would be better.
 
False alarm by the NYRMB poster - there is not an '80s-'90s weekend happening on CBS-FM. 
It's a March Music Matchups weekend in honor of the NCAA college basketball tournament. 68 artists play off against each other (2 at a time). I'm not sure if this is just for this weekend or if it will continue in stages/rounds for the next 2 weekends as well.

One Whitney Houston 1993 song (which may have been part of a CBS-FM March Matchup segment - or maybe not) does not signal a revolution. Given her recent passing it's quite natural for CBS-FM to play this remake.

Santana/Michelle Branch - Game Of Love (2002) also played Sat. morning 3/17/12.

In fact, I checked Mediabase for 3/17-18/2012 for CBS-FM and there's nothing else out of the ordinary.
 
I'm Every Woman is 20 years old. It was also a remake. It was also by the recently deceased Whitney Houston, who happened to come from Newark.

In 1987, CBS-FM played Sgt. Peppers (still do) which was also, at the time, 20 years old.

There's no reason a 20 year old Whitney Houston song shouldn't be played on CBS-FM. What's the difference between that and a Supremes song, other than one has been around twice as long.

In order to evolve the demo, they need to touch on compatible 90's music. Rod Stewart had some early 90's hits, Sting, Whitney etc. If someone was 20 in 1992, simple math says they're 40. In the lower end of the target demo, where CBS-FM is sprinkling in compatible hits.

If the old farts are offended by a Whitney song, they need to go to internet radio. CBS-FM can't be 50's and 60's anymore, just as WNEW-AM can't exist anymore. We had that problem at Jukebox Radio 12 years ago, the upper end of the demo was dying off with pop standards. 50's and 60's aren't dying off yet, but in another 10 years, when a teenager from the 50's will be approaching around 80, that will be a problem too.

From 1965-67 onward, there are enough "modern" sounding and "timeless" songs that can still be played. Beatles, Beach Boys, Stones, some Motown songs. Don't expect to hear a deep Herman's Hermits cut though. Kids are still getting into the two B's and the Stones...
 
WNTIRadio said:
I'm Every Woman is 20 years old. It was also a remake. It was also by the recently deceased Whitney Houston, who happened to come from Newark.

In 1987, CBS-FM played Sgt. Peppers (still do) which was also, at the time, 20 years old.

There's no reason a 20 year old Whitney Houston song shouldn't be played on CBS-FM. What's the difference between that and a Supremes song, other than one has been around twice as long.

In order to evolve the demo, they need to touch on compatible 90's music. Rod Stewart had some early 90's hits, Sting, Whitney etc. If someone was 20 in 1992, simple math says they're 40. In the lower end of the target demo, where CBS-FM is sprinkling in compatible hits.

If the old farts are offended by a Whitney song, they need to go to internet radio. CBS-FM can't be 50's and 60's anymore, just as WNEW-AM can't exist anymore. We had that problem at Jukebox Radio 12 years ago, the upper end of the demo was dying off with pop standards. 50's and 60's aren't dying off yet, but in another 10 years, when a teenager from the 50's will be approaching around 80, that will be a problem too.

From 1965-67 onward, there are enough "modern" sounding and "timeless" songs that can still be played. Beatles, Beach Boys, Stones, some Motown songs. Don't expect to hear a deep Herman's Hermits cut though. Kids are still getting into the two B's and the Stones...

Nothing wrong with the Whitney Houston song. Early 90s songs by CBS-FM artists...Rod Stewart, Sting, etc perfectly acceptable. But most of the 90s will not on CBS FM..at least now.
 
I am def NOT a Old Fart. I Love REM and if they want to play that on cbsfm that's ok!!! Yes, people want 50's and 60's and I like to hear a 50's once in awhile too, but it won't happen, I like 70' 80's and some 90's be Honest with ya some songs of today are good, but they have many stations for that, so let them stick to 60's to 80's and if they want throw in a good 90's once in awhile!!! I prefer to keep radio on while doing things around the house, then the computer and I still love the personalities. To hear my 60's and some 70's I turn on my COUSIN B and I get both great 60's and a Great voice!!! :) I def don"t mind hearing Whitney on cbsfm, I always liked her!!!
 
WNTIRadio said:
If the old farts are offended by a Whitney song, they need to go to internet radio. CBS-FM can't be 50's and 60's anymore, just as WNEW-AM can't exist anymore. We had that problem at Jukebox Radio 12 years ago, the upper end of the demo was dying off with pop standards. 50's and 60's aren't dying off yet, but in another 10 years, when a teenager from the 50's will be approaching around 80, that will be a problem too.

CBS-FM will never get rid of the 1950's 60's & 70's! At the very least, only certain key songs would be played years and years from now, but it will not completely disappear. I'm sure in 2055, "some" of us we'll be hearing the 100th anniversary of the start of rock & roll w/ Bill Haley and His Comets! I'm hoping I'll be one of them....I'll be 88 then. :)

CBS-FM can add the 90's and 00's as they see fit, but it will not erase their legacy!
 
That was exactly my point, the "timeless" tunes will always be played. But those lesser and dated sounding hits will not stay on the playlist. Elvis will always get airplay. Same for Chuck Berry, Little Richard, the roots of rock that are recognizable to young and old.

But they can't be only 50's and 60's anymore to survive.
 
Ready to feel even more old? Last night, CBS-FM played the "Top 20 Countdown" from this week in... 1984! Though it was either from New York's surveys as opposed to Billboard's version, or they took the Billboard version and reconfigured it. This appears to be the survey from that week:
http://tunecaster.com/charts/80/week8411.html

However, while "Footloose" was number 1, "Girls Just Want To Have Fun" was played at number 2, with "Somebody's Watching Me" (which this website has listed at number 2) being played by CBS-FM a little earlier.

Compare with the surveys from the week before and the week after:
http://www.oldradioshows.com/at40/031084.html
http://duranduran.wikia.com/wiki/American_Top_40_with_Casey_Kasem:_March_24,_1984

One high point: CBS-FM played John Lennon's posthumous release "Nobody Told Me."

One low point: It gave them another excuse to play Van Halen's "Jump"! (Though at the rate they're going, I'm sure Kris Kross' version of "Jump" is not too far behind...)
 
DToTheJ said:
One low point: It gave them another excuse to play Van Halen's "Jump"! (Though at the rate they're going, I'm sure Kris Kross' version of "Jump" is not too far behind...)

Or House of Pain's "Jump Around" ???
 
oldies76 said:
DToTheJ said:
One low point: It gave them another excuse to play Van Halen's "Jump"! (Though at the rate they're going, I'm sure Kris Kross' version of "Jump" is not too far behind...)

Or House of Pain's "Jump Around" ???

Van Halen's "Jump" ia a great pop song. Perfect for CBS FM in 2012.
 
oldies76 said:
WNTIRadio said:
If the old farts are offended by a Whitney song, they need to go to internet radio. CBS-FM can't be 50's and 60's anymore, just as WNEW-AM can't exist anymore. We had that problem at Jukebox Radio 12 years ago, the upper end of the demo was dying off with pop standards. 50's and 60's aren't dying off yet, but in another 10 years, when a teenager from the 50's will be approaching around 80, that will be a problem too.

CBS-FM will never get rid of the 1950's 60's & 70's! At the very least, only certain key songs would be played years and years from now, but it will not completely disappear. I'm sure in 2055, "some" of us we'll be hearing the 100th anniversary of the start of rock & roll w/ Bill Haley and His Comets! I'm hoping I'll be one of them....I'll be 88 then. :)

CBS-FM can add the 90's and 00's as they see fit, but it will not erase their legacy!

Oh I see a day coming and not too far off where Elvis is relegated to a Sunday morning show or in specialty weekends only. As far as post 1965 songs go, CBS will get to a point where no more than 1 maybe 2 will be played per hour with the rest being 70s and 80s.
 
I love it - trying to figure out the authority. ROFL. Them what does the writing and production makes the call. Good stuff.
 
WNTIRadio said:
If the old farts are offended by a Whitney song, they need to go to internet radio. CBS-FM can't be 50's and 60's anymore, just as WNEW-AM can't exist anymore. We had that problem at Jukebox Radio 12 years ago, the upper end of the demo was dying off with pop standards.

And that is most unfortunate. Good music, like that played on WNEW (AM) and that which WCBS-FM played in the days when it was truly an oldies station, is TIMELESS. But a lot of the stuff from the 80s and 90s is throwaway music, pure dreck!

Yes, the late Whitney Houston hailed from Newark. So what? Most of her music was nauseating white-bread-and-mayonnaise AC pablum best left to the mainstream AC stations.

The problem with radio today is this obsession with age. Not all of us who like decent music are collecting Social Security, eating cat food for dinner, going about in our walkers, or putting stuff in our hair to turn it blue like a scouring pad. And many of us older folks who are held in such disdain by the broadcasting industry and the know-it-all twentysomethings who work as media buyers for the ad agencies have the disposable income that the mall rats and thirtysomething secretaries that are the darlings of today's radio don't have!

I miss both WNEW and the old WCBS-FM, especially the latter station's long gone "Doo Wop Shop" program. Nowadays, whenever I am in the New York area, my radio is either silent or tuned to WBGO. I will never forgive Michael Bloomberg for replacing a genuine American cultural institution, the station that "made" Frank Sinatra, with an excruciatingly B-O-R-I-N-G business news format.

The music that WCBS-FM plays today isn't "oldies". It's just old. And it sucks like a tornado! I can't listen to that station for as much as five minutes!

As for "Jukebox Radio", I seem to remember the real problem being the questionable legality of the chain of translators that fed the programming from a small Class A FM station in the Catskills to a translator in New Jersey. This elicited a complaint from WVNJ in Teaneck. (And, unfortunately, WVNJ has dropped the music in favor of endless infomercials...but the directional signal makes it hard to hear that station in much of New Jersey, where I spend a lot of time.)
 
oldies76 said:
WNTIRadio said:
If the old farts are offended by a Whitney song, they need to go to internet radio. CBS-FM can't be 50's and 60's anymore, just as WNEW-AM can't exist anymore. We had that problem at Jukebox Radio 12 years ago, the upper end of the demo was dying off with pop standards. 50's and 60's aren't dying off yet, but in another 10 years, when a teenager from the 50's will be approaching around 80, that will be a problem too.

CBS-FM will never get rid of the 1950's 60's & 70's! At the very least, only certain key songs would be played years and years from now, but it will not completely disappear. I'm sure in 2055, "some" of us we'll be hearing the 100th anniversary of the start of rock & roll w/ Bill Haley and His Comets! I'm hoping I'll be one of them....I'll be 88 then. :)


Never say never!!! Do not forget about Jack FM!!

CBS-FM can add the 90's and 00's as they see fit, but it will not erase their legacy!
 
ka2xuk said:
WNTIRadio said:
If the old farts are offended by a Whitney song, they need to go to internet radio. CBS-FM can't be 50's and 60's anymore, just as WNEW-AM can't exist anymore. We had that problem at Jukebox Radio 12 years ago, the upper end of the demo was dying off with pop standards.

And that is most unfortunate. Good music, like that played on WNEW (AM) and that which WCBS-FM played in the days when it was truly an oldies station, is TIMELESS. But a lot of the stuff from the 80s and 90s is throwaway music, pure dreck!

Yes, the late Whitney Houston hailed from Newark. So what? Most of her music was nauseating white-bread-and-mayonnaise AC pablum best left to the mainstream AC stations.

The problem with radio today is this obsession with age. Not all of us who like decent music are collecting Social Security, eating cat food for dinner, going about in our walkers, or putting stuff in our hair to turn it blue like a scouring pad. And many of us older folks who are held in such disdain by the broadcasting industry and the know-it-all twentysomethings who work as media buyers for the ad agencies have the disposable income that the mall rats and thirtysomething secretaries that are the darlings of today's radio don't have!

I miss both WNEW and the old WCBS-FM, especially the latter station's long gone "Doo Wop Shop" program. Nowadays, whenever I am in the New York area, my radio is either silent or tuned to WBGO. I will never forgive Michael Bloomberg for replacing a genuine American cultural institution, the station that "made" Frank Sinatra, with an excruciatingly B-O-R-I-N-G business news format.

The music that WCBS-FM plays today isn't "oldies". It's just old. And it sucks like a tornado! I can't listen to that station for as much as five minutes!

As for "Jukebox Radio", I seem to remember the real problem being the questionable legality of the chain of translators that fed the programming from a small Class A FM station in the Catskills to a translator in New Jersey. This elicited a complaint from WVNJ in Teaneck. (And, unfortunately, WVNJ has dropped the music in favor of endless infomercials...but the directional signal makes it hard to hear that station in much of New Jersey, where I spend a lot of time.)

And if you've been paying attention, CBS-FM isn't an oldies station anymore...it's Classic Hits (although a better way to describe the station is Greatest Hits.)
 
Let's face it (like it or not)...90's music now qualifies as "classic hits". And honestly I don't know how you're all going to react when Nirvana eventually makes CBS' playlist.

Some can argue that the sounds of grunge could be "timeless" especially for the fans of Kurt Cobain, Eddie Vedder, etc. And that would actually fit into the demos of what 'CBS is (and I NOTE that because even though hip-hop was ALSO a strong 90's staple, it doesn't fit to what the 'CBS listener is). In that sense, you can't stay stuck between the 60's and 80's either.

If it hadn't happened already, get set for "Smells Like Teen Spirit" :)
 
I really don't see why everyone is complaining that CBS-FM is playing 80s and 90s music. There are airchecks out there of CBS-FM from the 70s and 80s that had some then-current music played alongside the Oldies.

For instance, watch this video aircheck of the late Bill Brown from 1987 playing a *gasp* REM song at around 1:48.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12PXe4YbMxs

Robyn
 
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