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91.5 Can Advertise as a Non-Com

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TheVibe

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Differences between Non-Commercial and Commercial Radio

Commercial is generally very easy for people to understand. Commercial Radio sells advertising using a sales force, charges promotional fees, and involves itself in many ways of profit making business.

Most people do not realize that Non-commercial FM stations are very similar in practice except that all of their income is turned back into the corporation for station growth, upgrades, repairs, salaries, etc. so that the station will never realize a profit. All income is re-invested into the corporation. Non -comms differ from commercial FM stations primarily in that they are not permitted to accept revenue in exchange for broadcasting "spots" (announcements advertising goods and services), yet they may charge for broadcasting programs. The licensee of a non-commercial educational FM station is expected to provide a broadcast schedule that is "non-commercial". Remember, the Congress ordered the FCC to find a way to reserve some channels in the new FM service for educational, instructional, and cultural purposes. The method chosen by the FCC requires that an applicant for one of the reserved channels form a non-profit that is educational in nature.

Non-profit Advertising Allowed -The reduction of federal subsidies to Non-Commercial Educational stations has resulted in significant reductions in the funds available to establish new stations and for the operation of existing stations. The FCC, recognizing the financial difficulties that existing non-commercial educational stations were facing, has liberalized its rules regarding the broadcast of announcements and programs for non-comms.

Presently, non-commercial educational stations may accept advertising for goods and services pro-vided by non-profit organizations. As well, they may receive underwriting and sponsorship spots from national and local businesses to pay for programming. Stations may accept donations from members of the general public and from businesses. Individual donors may be identified by their name, address and a description of their products and services. An example of the extent of this liberalization may be seen by viewing any non-commercial educational "public television" station. Non-commercial educational FM stations operated by churches, schools, and organizations interested in educational formats, have benefited from the FCC policy changes. Local businesses are now potential sources of revenue, and the station can now provide a useful promotional service in return. Programs produced by others may be broadcast, and the cost of airing the programs may be charged to the entity supplying the program.

Examples of Non-Comm. Advertising:

"The following programming is sponsored by ...., home of the..., located at....."

"Funding provided by ..." "This hour of music was made available by The Univ. of ..., The Robert Jones Singers will be appearing in concert at the Univ. of .... on Sat. night, April 15 at 8 pm. Admission is $10. For reservations please call ...."

"We appreciate the contributions of ....." "The sponsor of our program offers additional helps by inviting you to attend ...."

"The Little Theatre downtown is putting on a series of two act plays featuring the work of Mary Beth Mather. For time and ticket info. please call ....."

"Our local Coca Cola Bottling Company sponsors this hour of programming and is also the host of this years THREE STATE/ THREE MOUNTAIN CHALLENGE."

When choosing between a non-commercial channel or commercial channel it's important to determine which will best suit your purposes.

Let's review the differences & similarities:

1 - Non-commercial educational stations cannot accept compensation for advertising in the manner commercial stations do.

2 - Non-commercial educational stations must include educational, instructional, and cultural programming in their schedules. Generally one percent of the total program schedule is acceptable to the FCC.

3 - Local businesses are now potential sources of revenue for non-comm stations, and the station can now provide a useful promotional service in return.

4 - Programs produced by others may be broadcast, and the cost of airing the programs may be charged to the entity supplying the program.

5 - Unlike commercial FM channels, there is less competition for non-commercial educational FM channels.

6 - There are, therefore, fewer instances when a FCC hearing is required to determine a winner among competing applicants.

7 - Though non-commercial educational FM channels comprise only twenty percent of available channels, there are generally more opportunities for new stations. This is be-cause ownership is restricted to non-profit educational entities.

8 - Both may broadcast the same type of news, sports, weather, and music programming.

9 - A non-commercial educational FM station will have the same coverage as its commercial counterpart with comparable transmitting facilities.

10 - Both may generate income through the broadcast of announcements and programs.
Equipment, staffing, and operating requirements are essentially the same.
 
Vibe,
EXCELLENT information! Thanks for the enlightenment. Now if they will:
1. Stay with the 80's!
2. Hire me!
 
Thanks for posting this, Vibe. It would be wonderful if WHKC could stay around with music similar to what they're presenting now....and on a well-above average (for Columbus) signal with really good audio quality. But it's hard for me to imagine that they plan to keep a secular music format instead of moving Christian (per the business entity name) or trying to flip the station to a new owner. The fact that it's been going for awhile now with nothing but the top of the hour i.d.'s, and still playing occasional Christmas songs, adds to my suspicion (although I didn't hear any Chrictmas music yesterday). I wonder if they COULD be planning some sort of frequency flip with CVO. Those non-comm ad guidelines would seem better-suited to CVO, although then CVO wouldn't show up in the Arbitrons until non-comms are added to the regular reporting...which now looks like it may be several years off.

In any event, musically I personally think HKC is running rings around any other local station. While they sometimes play some real turkeys -- even for 20-30 minutes in a row -- 90% of the time its a great mix and often fabulous. Re what others said about reception maybe I've lucked out, but for me it's only faded once...I forget where. Crystal clear the rest of the time. And even if there were problems, it looks like those could be worked out. WHKC's 60db service contour looks great, centrally located and covering all of Franklin county, most of Delaware county, and at least part of each of the remaing Columbus metro counties. And they have 15kw ERP.

I sure hope what we have now in some way represents Rob Case's long-term plan for HKC! C'mon Rob, don't throw away your great creation!
 
Nu_Roo_2 said:
In any event, musically I personally think HKC is running rings around any other local station. While they sometimes play some real turkeys -- even for 20-30 minutes in a row -- 90% of the time its a great mix and often fabulous.

My wife and I have been listening in the car on a regular basis and the mix is overall very good. A lot of stuff I haven't heard on corporate radio in years. It's a better Ted than Ted ever was IMHO. It would be nice to have a locally run and supported station with a playlist that wasn't researched to death in some boardroom. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.
 
Thanks ;D

I stumbled upon this information while researching and educating myself the difference between Commercial and Non-Commercial frequencies. Non-Com is (88.1 through 91.9 Mhz).
 
xiradiodotcom said:
My wife and I have been listening in the car on a regular basis and the mix is overall very good. A lot of stuff I haven't heard on corporate radio in years. It's a better Ted than Ted ever was IMHO. It would be nice to have a locally run and supported station with a playlist that wasn't researched to death in some boardroom. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

I agree with all the above. It's amazing how you can put together an enticing playlist without consultants if you know what you're doing.

One gripe (other than the signal) ..... I listen to WHKC in my office during the day, and there is a fair amount of repitition in the playlist.
 
Nu_Roo_2 said:
The fact that it's been going for awhile now with nothing but the top of the hour i.d.'s, and still playing occasional Christmas songs, adds to my suspicion (although I didn't hear any Chrictmas music yesterday).

Looks like I was right about the xmas music remaining for Orthodox Christmas, which was Sunday.

Nu_Roo_2 said:
While they sometimes play some real turkeys -- even for 20-30 minutes in a row -- 90% of the time its a great mix and often fabulous. Re what others said about reception maybe I've lucked out, but for me it's only faded once...I forget where. Crystal clear the rest of the time. And even if there were problems, it looks like those could be worked out. WHKC's 60db service contour looks great, centrally located and covering all of Franklin county, most of Delaware county, and at least part of each of the remaing Columbus metro counties. And they have 15kw ERP.

I notice lots of glitches with their signal ...... I wonder if the transmitter is working properly. If I remember correctly, the first owners of WWHO-TV thought they were broadcasting 5 million watts, but the transmitter had a problem and they weren't getting out near that much.
 
Dirty_Harry said:
Nu_Roo_2 said:
The fact that it's been going for awhile now with nothing but the top of the hour i.d.'s, and still playing occasional Christmas songs, adds to my suspicion (although I didn't hear any Chrictmas music yesterday).

Looks like I was right about the xmas music remaining for Orthodox Christmas, which was Sunday.

Well, I thought maybe you were onto something there, but I heard "Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas" tonight. Are there any religions that have an even later Christmas than the Orthodox Christmas?
 
Noticed that WHKC 91.5-FM censored out the word 'down' in ALANIS MORISSETTE'S 1995 hit "You Oughta Know".

Here are the lyrics to her 1995 hit "You Oughta Know". Click here:

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/alanismorissette/yououghtaknow.html

This is something you wouldn't normally expect to hear under their station moniker... What is going on with this station??
There were granted a FCC station license a few days ago so we may know any day now what
their true/finale format is.
 
Yup, they were granted Program Test AUthority AND A License To Cover on Tuesday...
 
Nu_Roo_2 said:
Well, I thought maybe you were onto something there, but I heard "Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas" tonight. Are there any religions that have an even later Christmas than the Orthodox Christmas?

Festivus? :D
 
gabigley1 said:
Noticed that WHKC 91.5-FM censored out the word 'down' in ALANIS MORISSETTE'S 1995 hit "You Oughta Know".

That's a common radio version of the song. What I find interesting is that a station owned by a "Christian" company plays songs like 'Girls, Girls, Girls' and 'I Touch Myself'. Makes me think the company name was a front just to get the signal.
 
Nu_Roo_2 said:
Dirty_Harry said:
Nu_Roo_2 said:
The fact that it's been going for awhile now with nothing but the top of the hour i.d.'s, and still playing occasional Christmas songs, adds to my suspicion (although I didn't hear any Chrictmas music yesterday).

Looks like I was right about the xmas music remaining for Orthodox Christmas, which was Sunday.

Well, I thought maybe you were onto something there, but I heard "Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas" tonight. Are there any religions that have an even later Christmas than the Orthodox Christmas?

I know this is a stretch, but Eastern Orthodox New Year is January 14th on the Julian calendar. Everything is 13 days off, including all the days of the saints they have in common with the Catholic church and a few of the Orthodox churches that follow the western calendar.

Generally, you hear xmas songs through Jan 1st ..... Maybe Rob Case has some Eastern Orthodox in his background and is continuing the songs until New Years?
 
xiradiodotcom said:
gabigley1 said:
Noticed that WHKC 91.5-FM censored out the word 'down' in ALANIS MORISSETTE'S 1995 hit "You Oughta Know".

That's a common radio version of the song. What I find interesting is that a station owned by a "Christian" company plays songs like 'Girls, Girls, Girls' and 'I Touch Myself'. Makes me think the company name was a front just to get the signal.

Maybe you're right .... maybe calling the company "Christian" was simply a ploy so that the FCC didn't ask too many questions.
 
Dirty_Harry said:
xiradiodotcom said:
gabigley1 said:
Noticed that WHKC 91.5-FM censored out the word 'down' in ALANIS MORISSETTE'S 1995 hit "You Oughta Know".

That's a common radio version of the song. What I find interesting is that a station owned by a "Christian" company plays songs like 'Girls, Girls, Girls' and 'I Touch Myself'. Makes me think the company name was a front just to get the signal.

Maybe you're right .... maybe calling the company "Christian" was simply a ploy so that the FCC didn't ask too many questions.

...and if it worked, I give the man credit!  OTOH, I think he may have been involved in one or more past Christian stations.  I don't recall for sure which...maybe WZZT 103.1 when it was Christian (talking pre-Salem, here), or WTLT the Light (not sure if I have the calls right).  But I'm wagering on your theory.

BTW, as for the songs they play, I've heard a few tunes that are even more sex-infused than the examples xiradiodotcom gave.
 
Dirty_Harry said:
Nu_Roo_2 said:
Dirty_Harry said:
Nu_Roo_2 said:
The fact that it's been going for awhile now with nothing but the top of the hour i.d.'s, and still playing occasional Christmas songs, adds to my suspicion (although I didn't hear any Chrictmas music yesterday).

Looks like I was right about the xmas music remaining for Orthodox Christmas, which was Sunday.

Well, I thought maybe you were onto something there, but I heard "Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas" tonight. Are there any religions that have an even later Christmas than the Orthodox Christmas?

I know this is a stretch, but Eastern Orthodox New Year is January 14th on the Julian calendar. Everything is 13 days off, including all the days of the saints they have in common with the Catholic church and a few of the Orthodox churches that follow the western calendar.

Generally, you hear xmas songs through Jan 1st ..... Maybe Rob Case has some Eastern Orthodox in his background and is continuing the songs until New Years?

Man, this is getting complicated. :-\ Might be easier just to go with CBusDave's Festivus explanation :D... Or more likely a little sloppy automation??
 
I still think its as simple as, It is easier to Sell a station that is on the air, Build it, Go out and find a buyer. then make the transaction. looking at what K-Love has been paying for FM signals in other places, (17 million for WJKL-FM in Elgin IL) Mr Case could make a tidy profit either for him self or the partners that put up funds to get the station on the air. as far as programming, how important is what is on the air to sell it, its non com, ratings don't really count, as he is paying to keep it on the air out of his pocket.
 
Allfirdup said:
I still think its as simple as, It is easier to Sell a station that is on the air, Build it, Go out and find a buyer. then make the transaction. looking at what K-Love has been paying for FM signals in other places, (17 million for WJKL-FM in Elgin IL) Mr Case could make a tidy profit either for him self or the partners that put up funds to get the station on the air. as far as programming, how important is what is on the air to sell it, its non com, ratings don't really count, as he is paying to keep it on the air out of his pocket.

The only thing that really throws a kink in the K-Love theory is the little live shift they did before Christmas. Either they were at the transmitter site, or there is a STL to a studio somewhere? I really expected to hear K-Love when it first signed on. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
 
xiradiodotcom said:
The only thing that really throws a kink in the K-Love theory is the little live shift they did before Christmas. Either they were at the transmitter site, or there is a STL to a studio somewhere? I really expected to hear K-Love when it first signed on. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

What about the http://www.stgabrielradio.com/ wouldnt they be a target for this signal? ofcourse I could see folks like EMF (K-Love) wanting it, K-Love has stations around Central ohio just not in it (station in mansfield, station in South west ohio etc) would be the perfect way to get into Central Ohio.

I would suspect Rob's using some form of internet connection between where-ever and the transmitter site at the Channel 6 tower, I really doubt there is space at the tower site for a studio, Ch6's transmitter site houses Ch6s Analog, DT and Ch28's analog and DT transmitters + WOSU-FM, WUFM, and W201AK's Transmitters, plus the new 91.5, Doubt there is room for a studio there, I would suspect he's doing an internet type STL.
 
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