91.7

[MsMusicRadio]

The religious board says that Family Radio may sell and not to other faith based groups. This could be a chance for WSMR to add coverage to Pinellas County

 

[badjef]

The religious board says that Family Radio may sell and not to other faith based groups. This could be a chance for WSMR to add coverage to Pinellas County

Price will decide, format can always be changed, later.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

 

[Ai4i]

Here is a thread which, at last count, is SEVENTEEN pages long, and yes, Camping claims he will only sell to secular entities.
I also favor WUSF/WSMR. Between WFTI and W280DW, they would cover the market reasonably well.
Do we all remember when USF owned WGCU?

 

[byron]

Camping's Family Radio recently agreed to sell 38kW WKDN 106.9FM (Camden, NJ) to Merlin Media, which gives the impression he'll at least consider commercial offers. Merlin paid 22.5 mil for the station. Granted the dial position is not a generally an area where religious outlets broadcast in contrast to the one here in Tampa.

Gosh that thread is long.

Byron

 

[Rick Rose 2.0]

91.7 can't be sold to commercial interests since its on the non-commercial part of the FM band.

 

[MsMusicRadio]

it is a real station I presume and not a LPFM or repeater, so it could not take the WSMR calls. Never-the-less, USF should buy it

 

[drt]

it is a real station I presume and not a LPFM or repeater, so it could not take the WSMR calls. Never-the-less, USF should buy it

WFTI is a class A station, LPFM's are limited to not more than 100 watts, WFTI is 3,000 watts.

Station Status Licensed Class A Non-Commercial FM Station
Area of Coverage View Coverage Map
Effective Radiated Power 3000 Watts
Height above Avg. Terrain 86 meters (282 feet)

Remember, unlike sister station WUSF, WSMR receives no direct funding from the Federal or state government.....As far as I know it was a one time special grant that allowed them to purchase WSMR at a very good price. What has been suggested is a good idea, but I doubt that Harold Camping and/or Family Radio is going give this station away; so I have my doubts that this will take place, and I hope to be wrong, as I live about .75 mile south of their tower and the reception is great; whereas WSMR's 89.1 signal is good on my car radio, but only on some of the indoor radios.

WFTI's signal would provide decent coverage from about East Bay/West Bay Dr S in Pinellas, the interbay area of Tampa (zip codes 33611, 33616 and MacDill AFB), as well as the Ruskin and Sun City areas of Hillsborough county, as well as greater metro Terra Ceia in extreme n.w. Manatee county. Northern Pinellas and Eastern Hillsborough county, would still be in the dark, so to speak.

At one time stations on this frequency had an opportunity from the FCC to increase their power to 6,000 watts; I don't know if that window of opportunity is still open or not; there is a 91.7 in Port Charlotte, Palm City/Stuart (the Treasure Coast station is also "Family Radio") and WGCU in Fort Myers simulcasts their programing on 91.7 in Marco, FL.

It would also help if WFTI they could increase their antenna height as well, but with the nearby downtown airport, that would have to go through the FCC and FAA.

Now, if Family Radio would take $10 down and $10 per month, I could double my monthly pledge to WSMR and dictate that it go directly to Family Radio!

drt

 

[fybush]

At one time stations on this frequency had an opportunity from the FCC to increase their power to 6,000 watts; I don't know if that window of opportunity is still open or not; there is a 91.7 in Port Charlotte, Palm City/Stuart (the Treasure Coast station is also "Family Radio") and WGCU in Fort Myers simulcasts their programing on 91.7 in Marco, FL.

The 6 kW class A upgrade applied only to stations in the commercial band. Stations in the noncommercial band aren't allocated by the table method/mileage separation; instead, they're licensed based on contour protection. The only thing stopping a "class A" 3 kW station on 91.7 from upgrading to 6 kW, or 7 kW, or 100 kW, is other stations on the same or adjacent channels.

The only reason class designations are applied to stations in the noncomm band is to allow for mileage-separation tables to be published controlling separation from stations nearby in the commercial band (in this case, on 92.1 and 92.3) or on IF channels (102.3 and 102.5, in this case).

 

[drt]

At one time stations on this frequency had an opportunity from the FCC to increase their power to 6,000 watts; I don't know if that window of opportunity is still open or not; there is a 91.7 in Port Charlotte, Palm City/Stuart (the Treasure Coast station is also "Family Radio") and WGCU in Fort Myers simulcasts their programing on 91.7 in Marco, FL.

The 6 kW class A upgrade applied only to stations in the commercial band. Stations in the noncommercial band aren't allocated by the table method/mileage separation; instead, they're licensed based on contour protection. The only thing stopping a "class A" 3 kW station on 91.7 from upgrading to 6 kW, or 7 kW, or 100 kW, is other stations on the same or adjacent channels.

The only reason class designations are applied to stations in the noncomm band is to allow for mileage-separation tables to be published controlling separation from stations nearby in the commercial band (in this case, on 92.1 and 92.3) or on IF channels (102.3 and 102.5, in this case).

Thanks for the correction......... which reminds me, I had intended to subscribe to your newsletter, but haven't yet. (therein lies the problem)...........

I need to do more reading and less posting!

At any rate the distance between the WFTI tower site (s.e. corner of 4th St and Central-dwntwn St Pete) and WVIJ's Port Charlotte tower is only 64.9 miles (give or take .1 mile), so I'm guessing that WFTI is pretty much maxed out power wise.

drt
st. petersburg,fl

 

[badjef]

At one time stations on this frequency had an opportunity from the FCC to increase their power to 6,000 watts; I don't know if that window of opportunity is still open or not; there is a 91.7 in Port Charlotte, Palm City/Stuart (the Treasure Coast station is also "Family Radio") and WGCU in Fort Myers simulcasts their programing on 91.7 in Marco, FL.

The 6 kW class A upgrade applied only to stations in the commercial band. Stations in the noncommercial band aren't allocated by the table method/mileage separation; instead, they're licensed based on contour protection. The only thing stopping a "class A" 3 kW station on 91.7 from upgrading to 6 kW, or 7 kW, or 100 kW, is other stations on the same or adjacent channels.

The only reason class designations are applied to stations in the noncomm band is to allow for mileage-separation tables to be published controlling separation from stations nearby in the commercial band (in this case, on 92.1 and 92.3) or on IF channels (102.3 and 102.5, in this case).

Thanks for the correction......... which reminds me, I had intended to subscribe to your newsletter, but haven't yet. (therein lies the problem)...........

I need to do more reading and less posting!

At any rate the distance between the WFTI tower site (s.e. corner of 4th St and Central-dwntwn St Pete) and WVIJ's Port Charlotte tower is only 64.9 miles (give or take .1 mile), so I'm guessing that WFTI is pretty much maxed out power wise.

drt
st. petersburg,fl

When I moved here in 1988, I wondered why they were so close to each other considering there were so many open frequencies at the time.
Anybody have the answers?

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

 

[rfrus]

There is also the problem of first adjacent WCIE on 91.5 in New Port Richey to keep 91.7 from increasing power.

 

[Ai4i]

Right abt WVIJ to the south, WMKO is not an issue, and WCIE to the north.
What about directional East toward southern Tampa and either divest of or use W280DW to translate WMNF-2, Bulls Radio?

Isn't this great, we can sit around, pretend we own the station, and get ideas on what to do with it, and not lay out a ¢!

 

[badjef]

Right abt WVIJ to the south, WMKO is not an issue, and WCIE to the north.
What about directional East toward southern Tampa and either divest of or use W280DW to translate WMNF-2, Bulls Radio?

Isn't this great, we can sit around, pretend we own the station, and get ideas on what to do with it, and not lay out a ¢!

Yeah, it is!

Vat a grate kuntree.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!