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92.1 FM Translator - Mid Cities (Irving?)
- Thread starter dfwrunner
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dfaulkner
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dfwrunner said:
I have no idea who owns or is operating it, but I'd love to see it go away.
If it's the same translator, the one mentioned in the "pirate" thread was K221FM
http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/fmq?list=0&facid=14442
They say the owners are Penfold Communications. I've never heard of them. A quick google search didn't bring up much either.
http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/fmq?list=0&facid=14442
They say the owners are Penfold Communications. I've never heard of them. A quick google search didn't bring up much either.
I don't see how the FCC would let a translator on 92.1 when KTFW and KXEZ are so close.
radioaircheck said:
because translators' money is as green as anyone elses' these days!
KDKR's signal is unique. They have 4 yagis stacked on top of each other up the tower pointing their entire signal straight into Ft Worth (and Dallas?)
It's interesting, their 60dbu contour fills in a circle around the tower: http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=FM1292066.html
While the actual antenna pattern is anything BUT that: http://tinyurl.com/24a5fh5
It's interesting, their 60dbu contour fills in a circle around the tower: http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=FM1292066.html
While the actual antenna pattern is anything BUT that: http://tinyurl.com/24a5fh5
dfwrunner said:
The best way to get action is to email the impacted radio stations and complain if the translator is interfering with reception (of KTFW or KXEZ).
The "protected contour" rules are stupid. I use an outdoor antenna to for FM at home. That should be part of the criteria for protection. If you can put up an antenna and get a good signal, it should be protected...sheesh.
radi0avenger said:
Is this
http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/polarplo...&p330=0.178&p340=0.178&p350=0.178&p360=0.178&
the pattern you tried to post?
yes, and I didn't want to clutter the forum with a long URL. Apparently that's not accepted here 
I understand, and that's by far the longest I've ever posted. There was a time when there was a way to display actual patterns and such within a post on this forum but that clearly got out of hand.
With this particular one I saw what you meant and thought it deserved a demonstration that what you see on one source doesn't always tell the whole story. The best example, of course, is Radio-Locator. It's easy to cite them as a source for patterns but it's important to remember that there's often much more to the story.
I think you're in the minority since most people (the "casual" listeners) won't take that step to receive distant stations. I hate to admit it but the rules actually make sense, even if the result is what has long been called the "AM-ization" of the FM band.
In the case of the Irving translator it actually fits the separation requirements with room to spare. Despite the rules, however, I don't see the need for it. And I agree with your point about complaints. If KTFW or KXEZ (or both) were to offer proof of a substantial number of listener complaints to the FCC the translator could be forced to find another frequency or go off the air. A similar thing happened recently in Austin; a translator on 105.3 had to go silent in the face of all the complaints and then applied for another frequency (96.3). Part of the story can be found at https://licensing.fcc.gov/cdbs/CDBS...?appn=101390452&qnum=5110©num=1&exhcnum=3
It can be done.
With this particular one I saw what you meant and thought it deserved a demonstration that what you see on one source doesn't always tell the whole story. The best example, of course, is Radio-Locator. It's easy to cite them as a source for patterns but it's important to remember that there's often much more to the story.
dfwrunner said:
I think you're in the minority since most people (the "casual" listeners) won't take that step to receive distant stations. I hate to admit it but the rules actually make sense, even if the result is what has long been called the "AM-ization" of the FM band.
In the case of the Irving translator it actually fits the separation requirements with room to spare. Despite the rules, however, I don't see the need for it. And I agree with your point about complaints. If KTFW or KXEZ (or both) were to offer proof of a substantial number of listener complaints to the FCC the translator could be forced to find another frequency or go off the air. A similar thing happened recently in Austin; a translator on 105.3 had to go silent in the face of all the complaints and then applied for another frequency (96.3). Part of the story can be found at https://licensing.fcc.gov/cdbs/CDBS...?appn=101390452&qnum=5110©num=1&exhcnum=3
It can be done.
radi0avenger said:yes, and I didn't want to clutter the forum with a long URL. Apparently that's not accepted here
Never seen a pattern like that..for years FMs were supposed to be omnidirectional, with a few cheats allowed, like using the tower itself as a reflector that happened to direct a couple of dB more toward the nearest large city...or deliberate nulls for short spaced co-channels...
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dfaulkner
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bradgoehl said:
I'm showing my ignorance here, but, what does silent STA mean ? It's still on the air.
bradgoehl said:
That's not the case. Actually there were two STA's this year, both of which came and went. The first had to do with access to the transmitter site and the other was requested to give them time to re-position the antenna itself. The latter was to allow them to be off the air while the antenna was moved up the tower; that relocation was done at the request of the tower owner. The most recent request from K221FM is for a license to cover that change.
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