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92.1 Stunting Now

Camron Fry said:
The best thing they could do is serve PLACERVILLE and the local businesses there as the station was intended. But I doubt that will happen. These little rim-shot stations will NEVER have any impact on the Sacramento market anyway. They just don't have the signal penetration to do so. Unfortunately, large media corporations don't see these stations this way. They think if they can bundle them, they can trick media buyers into purchasing ad time for several as a cluster buy. This won't work forever, especially for the small rim-shot stations. National advertisers are already leaving FM radio in droves for online streaming media. This will continue. Eventually, the companies that own these smaller/out of market signals will probably be FORCED to try a different approach.

An EDM format is a cool idea but the core of the urban area is OUTSIDE of the stations 60dbu "near field" signal coverage...so MOST in the Sacramento area would only be able to listen on a car radio since the signal will not penetrate houses and offices well enough to be listened to on smaller radios. It IS an explosive format that is crossing over into CHR in a big way right now (Armin Van Buuren, Aviici, Calvin Harris, Tiesto...etc) so it's not a bad gamble. That's what 103.5 should do in my opinion instead of trying to siphon listeners from KDND.

I wonder what it's costing them to keep that transmitter on and pay the bills. Anyone have any idea how much money this thing is eating every month?

My 2 cents.
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Camron Fry said:
The best thing they could do is serve PLACERVILLE and the local businesses there as the station was intended. But I doubt that will happen. These little rim-shot stations will NEVER have any impact on the Sacramento market anyway. They just don't have the signal penetration to do so. Unfortunately, large media corporations don't see these stations this way. They think if they can bundle them, they can trick media buyers into purchasing ad time for several as a cluster buy. This won't work forever, especially for the small rim-shot stations. National advertisers are already leaving FM radio in droves for online streaming media. This will continue. Eventually, the companies that own these smaller/out of market signals will probably be FORCED to try a different approach.

An EDM format is a cool idea but the core of the urban area is OUTSIDE of the stations 60dbu "near field" signal coverage...so MOST in the Sacramento area would only be able to listen on a car radio since the signal will not penetrate houses and offices well enough to be listened to on smaller radios. It IS an explosive format that is crossing over into CHR in a big way right now (Armin Van Buuren, Aviici, Calvin Harris, Tiesto...etc) so it's not a bad gamble. That's what 103.5 should do in my opinion instead of trying to siphon listeners from KDND.

I wonder what it's costing them to keep that transmitter on and pay the bills. Anyone have any idea how much money this thing is eating every month?

My 2 cents.
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$999.95 per month. Ok, yeah, I'm kidding. Agree mostly with your statement about reach in's except I'm unsure how many office workers and in home listeners use their radio anymore. I work for a company that collects listener data for online media and I can tell you I can bet on listener trends ramping up at 7-8AM and back down at 4-5PM. Very few listeners during drive time (morning and night), when in car listening thrives.

Something to consider.
 
I wonder what it's costing them to keep that transmitter on and pay the bills. Anyone have any idea how much money this thing is eating every month?
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If they're still playing that infomercial on the weekends, then they're making SOME money. (Have there ever been any all-advertising radio stations? Hardly seems legal, but Class-A low-power TV channel 8 has been showing nothing but infomercials 24/7 on channel 8-5.)
 
crainbebo said:
Yes! Via e-skip propagation - which is not common (only variable in the summer). From the area I've gotten 93.7 KJZY and KQJK, 91.7 KALW, 98.5 KUFX, 95.1 KHOP, 90.1 KYCC and 87.7 K-LOVE from San Jose (KBKF-LP 600W). The KHOP log was 5/22/11 (and E-skip was hot to Southern California that day - two deep or more on most open freqs), KALW, KUFX and KBKF was 8/2/12 (an opening up to an UNID Delilah on 96.9 which I think was KWAV), and KJZY/KQJK/KYCC was 6/25/13 (started off as a great SD, NE, WY opening, later turning into Northern California). KQJK is my shortest E-skip log at 630 miles. Had a song match to "Free Fallin'" Tom Petty.

-crainbebo
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Are you sure that was E-Skip at that frequency and not DX Tropo? Just curious if you had a way to confirm this. "E" skip rarely happens on frequencies higher than 50mhz.
 
E-skip can reach FM when conditions are good. Used to be before that Great American Analog Killoff of 2009, that channel 2 was a very good E-skip "beacon". When CCI and signals fading in and out started coming in, that was a good sign of E-skip. Then it would go to 3, 4, 5 and then channel 6 and FM. FM E-skip doesn't seem to be as common here on the West Coast as it is over on the East Coast during the summer time. I've received loads of FMs from many different states. Think I have 16 in the log. WA (tropo/groundwave), OR (tropo), ND, SD, KS, NE, TX, NM, AZ, CO, UT, NV, CA, MN, IA, WY. Plus BC (tropo), SK and MB, and Baja California.

-crainbebo
 
At my parents' house in Davis, CA, which has a roof antenna with rotor, a few times we picked up TV stations on channels 2 and 4 from Canada, Mexico, Colorado and Kansas. (There was a local channel 3 that had too strong a signal to be overpowered but even that had some interference patterns on it from other channel 3's trying to get through.) Caught part of a newscast from a Kansas station where they put a phone number onscreen so I called it and said where I was watching them from, they almost didn't believe it. Never had that happen with FM.
 
It's very rare for E-Skip to affect frequencies as far up the mhz range as the FM radio band except in the Spring & Summer months. Tropo conditions are much more common (a "ducting" phenomenon between hot and cool are masses) and can cause the signals to "bend" and stay close to the earth's curve for hundreds of miles under the right conditions. E-Skip will usually be subject to much more radical "fading" where as Tropo will usually be a much more stable signal path for a period of time. @Crainbebo: do you have your log published somewhere online? That'd be fun to look at. #fellowdxer
 
I do have a log, but it's on the OTHER computer that's in storage. Will fish that out probably in a few weeks however and post all that I've gotten.

-crainbebo
 
At 6:55PM Thursday (Nov 21) KMJE 92.1 is off the air. KKDV Walnut Creek is blasting into Placerville. KHXL is plowing on with their obnoxiously early Christmas cheer. Anyone know what's up? Oh wait, the electronic disco is back. Woot...
 
Noticed they were off Saturday night too, but they're back on right now with the same stuff. People are talking about this on Reddit too- would sure be nice if they end up keeping the electro-swing format with a bigger variety.
 
Sounds like the permanent Spanish format has finally started- they've been doing the station IDs in Spanish, most of the songs sound Christmas-related from what I can tell. Oh well- que lastima.
 
Uh huh. Another Spanish station. Oh joy.

-crainbebo
 
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