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92.3 NOW: Is this for real?

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d21ofnj said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMzb7aO_39A

Supposedly a listener that doesn't like 92.3 NOW had text the station their opinion. But for a radio station to reply a listener like what is shown on the video is really how to handle things?

Feedback on this scenerio

I have just now taken a look at the youtube video regarding 92.3 Now FM. It's difficult to say exactly who sent the text to the listener, but I highly doubt it was from anyone in station management or station staff. What we didn't see was the original text sent BY the listener to Now FM, so we don't know what comment was sent to the station. Regardless, however, if station management or any staff memeber did send this appalling text message to a listener, they should be shown the front door by upper CBS management and instructed never to return.

Mark Tillery
J. M. Tillery & Associates, P. A.
New York - Orlando
www.jmtillery.com
http://jmtillery.blogspot.com
[email protected]
 
KDM 7000 said:
DesiArnez6 said:
The irony here, is the people accusing chunky of "probably sending a text like that", miss the point , this "14 year old" admits in their own posts, on their own site, that THEY came up with that "insulting post first" and that it was returned word for word back to the "14 year old." Based on the 14 year olds own statements we can only conclude that the "14 year old" is the one that talks like that.

Please people, that post stuff like, "well 92.3 probably posted because they got a nasty text first", please, please, read this persons comments page, it says that it was the "14 year old's" own text message that was "so rudely texted back" in its "exact" form. So no matter how mature or not Chunky may be, or if he was even there at that time, the "14 year old" already admitted complete ownership of those words on the youtube page.

And how many 14 year olds.... that talk with that sort of language, pay so much attention, that they watch all those media outlets, and Fox News, and even try to get Perez Hilton. This really sounds like attention getting setup, but Im amazed at the people commenting that obviosly didnt read any of the this "14 year old's" comments on the page; that just throw baseless judgments out there. Reading is always the key, and usually leads you to the answer.

(Perhaps I'm overly sensitive, I was a Journalism major, so i just take details very very seriously)

And only if more people could think like DesiArnez6 - A Journalism major, too! - when it comes specifically to that last sentence within the third paragraph. That last sentence in this entire post is the highlight of this topic for me. This right here is the EXACT SAME REASON why I always post or say everything I have to say in full, precise detail! Also note that this guy isn't 14 and you can check thoroughly and see that no where on his YouTube profile did he say he was 14 years old, but I'm sure there will be people reading and saying "OMG a 14 year old???!!!". It's misinformation similar to this that can take a potential problem and turn it into a much bigger problem or misunderstanding than it already is. The moment any part of the story gets twisted or becomes inaccurate, the other party can rightfully stand up and say "that's not true" or "that's not how it happened.." etc, or even more, the rumors begin to stem from what is already inaccurate info leaving people with the wrong idea. The owner of the YouTube page himself did not write or explain in clear detail to begin with. ...and remember, everything I've said so far refers specifically to that one last sentence in the third paragraph.

Now, as far as the station, I have no solid proof that anyone who is or was physically employed at the station had text anything. However, if anyone there did behave in such a manner, then that was very foolish of them to do so and they probably need some retraining or some other line of work where they are much more capable of handing all situations that may arise in a more professional matter. Anyone responding to a customer should not do so in that type of manner, despite the fact that the other party was the one who started it and it is very simple to understand that if you don't like something that's of no cost to you, then you can just move on to something else you do like or find whatever pleases you. Having opinions about something are good, but there is a limit to where the opinion you're delivering crosses the borderline between constructive and just being plain dumb and ignorant, and saying that "everybody else is probably/surely doing it" doesn't justify anything.

They both pretty much asked for what they got with the way they handled the situation, and if everything did happen as stated and it were completely up to me, they, in addition to whoever is in charge of hiring/monitoring the on-air staff, would all get equal treatment and ridicule if I was the one covering this story. Now lets say the boy was 14. Well, it would be everyone INCLUDING THE PARENTS and who ever was responsible for hiring the on-air personality that would get no sympathy from me. Whether or not any of them choose to listen or accept the responsibility of their stupid behavior is up to them. Case closed.


**I stand by my post 100% and now I KNOW it was a hoax, anyone who originally saw this youtube page before it was altered please feel free to witness

The poster edited out all their Fox New an Perez Hilton threats, and now claims "What if I was 14 yers old" The poster originally claimed to be 14. Is now supposedly 25 years old and contacted CBS only. and only sent a generic "vulgar" message instead of the original claim to have sent that exact same message.

Youtube puts posts of the original uploader in a yellow border, my post quoted verbatim what this youtube member originally posted BEFORE editing their posts , content and "more info" section So yes I do read, and I take my work VERY serious. You will not meet someone more meticulous than me when it comes to detail. I do not blame you for your criticism, as you are now making your judgement on the altered page.


At this point If a member of CBS management feels that this youtube post is defamatory, I am sure that youtube will have all records of posts and changes, and deleted / altered comments, along with phone records. I am not sure of this persons agenda, but after seing the changes there clearly is one, and I believe at this point CBS should check into this youtube "member".

* I posted at their youtube site and kindly reminded them that there are legal boundaries even on youtube. And that all changes are traceable, as are phone records, and that what they did was shameful and now borderline defamation.

-Not to sound personal KDM 7000, my anger is not directed towards you, had I seen the page today instead of the original page, I might hace stated your post almost verbatim towards another poster as well. My anger is directed at people who obviously have the time to play dirty and plant hoxes that can jeopardize jobs, sttions reputation, and create financial damage all for a false cause. In my opinion this person has some sort of obsession, personality disorder, or agenda. Which applies here I don't have enough info to determine.

Case closed I guess In my opinion.

Whoever saw the ORIGINAL page please post so we can clear this one up. ;)
 
And in case anyone has any doubt at this point as I said in my previous post "Reading is always the key, and usually leads you to the answer." It still does on the new altered page. The new altered "more info" section starts off as quote "last night 5/9/09 I was very mad at the nasty djs....." The youtube member "OneConie" didn't even join youtube until "June 06, 2009" so when this person decided to open up an account June 6th and upload their one and only video (to this date, this is the only upload they have", It is extremely odd that they would begin typing "last night 5/9/09 I was very mad at the nasty djs....." as opposed to typing "last month".

So,
*The dates do not even match up.

Come one people read closely, even the altered page still shows flaws.

I find it suspicious that their alterations were almost specifically in relation to points i had brought up here. If we see any more changes on their site correlating exactly to statements I have made here only espeially in today's posting, then I will suspect this youtube member to be lurker or member of this site.
 
DesiArnez6 said:
KDM 7000 said:
DesiArnez6 said:
The irony here, is the people accusing chunky of "probably sending a text like that", miss the point , this "14 year old" admits in their own posts, on their own site, that THEY came up with that "insulting post first" and that it was returned word for word back to the "14 year old." Based on the 14 year olds own statements we can only conclude that the "14 year old" is the one that talks like that.

Please people, that post stuff like, "well 92.3 probably posted because they got a nasty text first", please, please, read this persons comments page, it says that it was the "14 year old's" own text message that was "so rudely texted back" in its "exact" form. So no matter how mature or not Chunky may be, or if he was even there at that time, the "14 year old" already admitted complete ownership of those words on the youtube page.

And how many 14 year olds.... that talk with that sort of language, pay so much attention, that they watch all those media outlets, and Fox News, and even try to get Perez Hilton. This really sounds like attention getting setup, but Im amazed at the people commenting that obviosly didnt read any of the this "14 year old's" comments on the page; that just throw baseless judgments out there. Reading is always the key, and usually leads you to the answer.

(Perhaps I'm overly sensitive, I was a Journalism major, so i just take details very very seriously)

And only if more people could think like DesiArnez6 - A Journalism major, too! - when it comes specifically to that last sentence within the third paragraph. That last sentence in this entire post is the highlight of this topic for me. This right here is the EXACT SAME REASON why I always post or say everything I have to say in full, precise detail! Also note that this guy isn't 14 and you can check thoroughly and see that no where on his YouTube profile did he say he was 14 years old, but I'm sure there will be people reading and saying "OMG a 14 year old???!!!". It's misinformation similar to this that can take a potential problem and turn it into a much bigger problem or misunderstanding than it already is. The moment any part of the story gets twisted or becomes inaccurate, the other party can rightfully stand up and say "that's not true" or "that's not how it happened.." etc, or even more, the rumors begin to stem from what is already inaccurate info leaving people with the wrong idea. The owner of the YouTube page himself did not write or explain in clear detail to begin with. ...and remember, everything I've said so far refers specifically to that one last sentence in the third paragraph.

Now, as far as the station, I have no solid proof that anyone who is or was physically employed at the station had text anything. However, if anyone there did behave in such a manner, then that was very foolish of them to do so and they probably need some retraining or some other line of work where they are much more capable of handing all situations that may arise in a more professional matter. Anyone responding to a customer should not do so in that type of manner, despite the fact that the other party was the one who started it and it is very simple to understand that if you don't like something that's of no cost to you, then you can just move on to something else you do like or find whatever pleases you. Having opinions about something are good, but there is a limit to where the opinion you're delivering crosses the borderline between constructive and just being plain dumb and ignorant, and saying that "everybody else is probably/surely doing it" doesn't justify anything.

They both pretty much asked for what they got with the way they handled the situation, and if everything did happen as stated and it were completely up to me, they, in addition to whoever is in charge of hiring/monitoring the on-air staff, would all get equal treatment and ridicule if I was the one covering this story. Now lets say the boy was 14. Well, it would be everyone INCLUDING THE PARENTS and who ever was responsible for hiring the on-air personality that would get no sympathy from me. Whether or not any of them choose to listen or accept the responsibility of their stupid behavior is up to them. Case closed.


**I stand by my post 100% and now I KNOW it was a hoax, anyone who originally saw this youtube page before it was altered please feel free to witness

The poster edited out all their Fox New an Perez Hilton threats, and now claims "What if I was 14 yers old" The poster originally claimed to be 14. Is now supposedly 25 years old and contacted CBS only. and only sent a generic "vulgar" message instead of the original claim to have sent that exact same message.

Youtube puts posts of the original uploader in a yellow border, my post quoted verbatim what this youtube member originally posted BEFORE editing their posts , content and "more info" section So yes I do read, and I take my work VERY serious. You will not meet someone more meticulous than me when it comes to detail. I do not blame you for your criticism, as you are now making your judgement on the altered page.


At this point If a member of CBS management feels that this youtube post is defamatory, I am sure that youtube will have all records of posts and changes, and deleted / altered comments, along with phone records. I am not sure of this persons agenda, but after seing the changes there clearly is one, and I believe at this point CBS should check into this youtube "member".

* I posted at their youtube site and kindly reminded them that there are legal boundaries even on youtube. And that all changes are traceable, as are phone records, and that what they did was shameful and now borderline defamation.

-Not to sound personal KDM 7000, my anger is not directed towards you, had I seen the page today instead of the original page, I might hace stated your post almost verbatim towards another poster as well. My anger is directed at people who obviously have the time to play dirty and plant hoxes that can jeopardize jobs, sttions reputation, and create financial damage all for a false cause. In my opinion this person has some sort of obsession, personality disorder, or agenda. Which applies here I don't have enough info to determine.

Case closed I guess In my opinion.

Whoever saw the ORIGINAL page please post so we can clear this one up. ;)

I wasn't being critical towards you at all. I had a feeling there was something more going on here, so this is why I kept all the credit I gave you specifically on that one sentence;
("And only if more people could think like DesiArnez6 - A Journalism major, too! - when it comes specifically to that last sentence within the third paragraph.") and left everything else neutral as I went into my own reasoning behind why I always read and write in full, precise detail.

Besides, even without seeing the original post, you had "14 year old" in quotes a majority of the time, so I had no reason to be critical anyway because from the looks of that, one couldn't tell (without seeing the original) that you were literally talking about a real 14 year old without being sarcastic to any degree... but take away those quotes and it would've seemed much different for anyone who didn't see the original.

But bottom line is this; In this case, the person who was in charge of altering the original version of their letter is the one responsible for any rumors that may result from his own behavior in the first place.
 
KDM 7000 said:
I wasn't being critical towards you at all. I had a feeling there was something more going on here, so this is why I kept all the credit I gave you specifically on that one sentence;
("And only if more people could think like DesiArnez6 - A Journalism major, too! - when it comes specifically to that last sentence within the third paragraph.") and left everything else neutral as I went into my own reasoning behind why I always read and write in full, precise detail.

Besides, even without seeing the original post, you had "14 year old" in quotes a majority of the time, so I had no reason to be critical anyway because from the looks of that, one couldn't tell (without seeing the original) that you were literally talking about a real 14 year old without being sarcastic to any degree... but take away those quotes and it would've seemed much different for anyone who didn't see the original.

But bottom line is this; In this case, the person who was in charge of altering the original version of their letter is the one responsible for any rumors that may result from his own behavior in the first place.

No problem ;) I appreciated the compliment, Perhaps I take my work TOO seriously. Yes I'll admit ;) My post wasn't directed at you either :) I was just shocked at how the issue evolved. The changes took me completely by surprise, hence probably the intense tone used while I was typing. Anyways, we're cool ;) Glad to have another one on the boards that looks deeper into issues that come up.
 
Wow, I encourage other people to also take screenshots.

This post that was deleted has been added again in similar form, "i did email CBS radio and FOXNEWS and WNBC and USMAGAZINE and PEREZHILTON...they must be busy so i posted this =) " Posted by OneConnie, All references to Fox News and Perez Hilton etc. had been eliminated, we'll theyre back, "OneConnie's" posts just keep popping up and dissappearing like the gophers in that arcade game.... (the one where you smack the gophers with the hammer) :)

BUT they did it in the wrong order and now they totally clash with each other and other original responses. Wow. They added three posts in a row and one to make their dates justified? hard to tell, but how "OneConnie" now has the ability to go back in time and post responses to reactions from the future is beyond me.

Still some missing posts, but atleast they had the decency to put some back in. Fascinating tho. When I mentioned Fox News and Perez Hilton, Instead of telling me "Moron, go back two pages and the post you refer to IS there, so read it", instead I got "I didn't alter sh*t" (The asterisk eliminates a vowel due to inappropriate language." (But Connie, you did alter ____ because now you reposted part of what I claimed you removed) *sigh

It's like those movies where the coverup actually makes the crime embarrassingly obvious. I wonder how long until this person becomes "14 y.o." again. At this rate that post might pop up in a few more days; Maybe they'll finally confess. Who knows.

There is no need for me to post there anymore at that youtube site, all necessary info was sent to management so I will let them take it from there.


*I did NOT expect to post again in this thread. I am once again shocked that this person is STILL altering their comments and altering their page, it is absolutely amazing. I apologize to those who have gotten bored on this topic, since it is really about senseless nonsense, but it is also an eye opener.
 
Tony Santiago said:
Desi, you should have seen a response that I've gotten on that thread.

Let's just say that the board editors here deleted it (and rightfully so), but it had a lot of vulgarities.

Its sad, radio can be competitive, but its supposed to be FUN! There are always people on either side that try to ruin it, or take things to far.
Well Tony, atleast the boards here are kept civil :)
 
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