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92.3 Now's fall

MarkO said:
CBS still does alternative very well at KROQ/Los Angeles which is one of the top-ten billing stations in the country, and is currently running ahead of its local CC competitor KYSR by a widening margin

True, but they've been on a nationwide mission to kill off Alternative everywhere else - unless the leadership changes at CBS Radio, I can't see them flipping a station to Alternative anytime soon

CBS seems to get stuck on certain formats - first the Jack format, then Hot ACs that act like CHRs, then Rhythmic-leaning CHRs, and now FM Sports - I feel like if it's not on their nationwide agenda, they won't consider it

And in the case of 92.9 The Game in Atlanta, they completely bombed, as it still has a 0.6 share after 4-5 months on the air
 
why not a standards station on 92.3 FM...ever since WNEW-AM & WQEW-AM left the air New York is without a standards station.
 
mjb1124 said:
Tony Santiago said:
If anything I would think in the beginning women may have been turned off by the way Chunky or TicTack may have come off, I dunno. Now it's the opposite. That's just my take and thought on it.

I know a few women in their early 20's who for a while were absolutely obsessed with 92.3 Now and its DJ's. Back then, they would insist the station was way better than Z100, and it was pretty much all they listened to. I'm not sure whether or not they still listen, but I know that their enthusiasm for the station has sharply declined since the departures of Cannon and Chunky. And these are hardly radio geeks, mind you - in fact, at first I tried to argue with them that there was little difference between them and Z100 musically, but after a while I realized it was the personalities that were drawing them in. Say what you will about Cannon and Chunky, but they were definitely bold personalities who appealed to the target demographic and helped the station stand out.

I didn't think the ladies had a problem with Nick Cannon :). And as abrasive as Chunky and TicTack could be at times, they still had the bold personalities and from what you're telling me the women apparently loved it.

Musically very little has changed. I still listen to 92.3 Now. But with all these departures and entries in the on-air staff, clearly the "character" of the station has dramatically changed. Correct me if I am wrong but I don't think there's ANYONE left from the original "Now" lineup.

Folks, I realize a lot of you REALLY WANT NOW TO GO AWAY. When I've started this thread, I was more speculating on the station itself, not thinking "it would be better if it flipped to (place musical genre here)" and yet the thread turned this way. Clearly CBS Radio is not abandoning ship with this format yet. And as someone else had mentioned, it seems as if more resources are being placed on KAMP and not enough on WNOW.

I guess what I'm saying is, let's assess on what Now CAN do as opposed to flipping this thing.........
 
i dont quiet get how they give up on formats...I say bring back alternative although I know they'd never do that cuz it's CBS they're evil.
 
Tony,

The following is an e-mail I've sent to Rick Gilette, who's the one responsible for the mess on the air right now. I had sent this in January and seems that it has gotten worse after that.

I would like any thoughts about my directions I suggested. I think they're truly doable and it just needs a willing person to do so:

Mr. Gillette,

I wanted to outreach to you once again to discuss the future of WNOW-FM from the listener's perspective. The last I wrote to you, I received a response from you about discussing ways to save the station in 2013. Well, we are well underway into the year and the station doesn't seem to be getting any better. Just to put it perspective, here's the following information that happened since I lasted e-mailed you:

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WNOW-FM Ratings:

Station: WNOW-FM
Format: Top 40/M
Owner: CBS Radio
Population: 15.57 million listeners

AQH:

August 2012
2.4
September 2012
2.4
October 2012
2.2
November 2012
2.1
December 2012
2.0
Holiday 2012
2.2

Average: 2.22

Audience:

August 2012
2,823,000
September 2012
2,643,600
October 2012
2,638,200
November 2012
2,484,600
December 2012
2,610,300
Holiday 2012
2,657,700

Average: 2,642,900 (2.6 million listeners)

Percentage of market listeners:
(Audience / Population)
August 2012
18%
September 2012
17%
October
17%
November 2012
16%
December 2012
17%
Holiday 2012
17%

Average: 17%

The last piece of information is to give you an idea of just how unpopular WNOW is getting. The AQH gives you an idea of the average number of persons listening to a particular station for at least five minutes during a 15-minute period. For WNOW, it is just plain awful. Averaged out in the span of the six month period, WNOW is at 2.22. 2.22?! It means two people are listening to WNOW within a 15 minute period! How does that compare to the competition?

The following are the numbers by WHTZ-FM & WKTU-FM respectively:

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Studio: WHTZ-FM
Format: Top 40/M
Owner: Clear Channel
Population: 15.57 million listeners

AQH:

August 2012
6.1
September 2012
5.5
October 2012
5.3
November 2012
4.8
December 2012
5.1
Holiday 2012
4.6

Average: 5.23

Audience:

August 2012
4,884,100
September 2012
4,853,900
October 2012
4,787,500
November 2012
4,530,400
December 2012
4,680,100
Holiday 2012
4,481,100

Average: 4,702,850 (4.7 million listeners)

Percentage of market listeners:
(Audience / Population)
August 2012
31%
September 2012
31%
October 2012
31%
November 2012
29%
December 2012
30%
Holiday 2012
29%

Average: 30%

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Station: WKTU-FM
Format: Top 40/M
Owner: Clear Channel
Population: 15.57 million listeners

AQH:

August 2012
5.0
September 2012
4.7
October 2012
4.4
November 2012
4.1
December 2012
4.5
Holiday 2012
4.4

Average: 4.5

Audience:

August 2012
5,168,500
September 2012
5,156,300
October 2012
5,171,800
November 2012
4,813,600
December 2012
5,179,600
Holiday 2012
5,037,400

Average: 5,087,866 (5.1 million listeners)

Percentage of market listeners:
(Audience / Population)
August 2012
33%
September 2012
33%
October 2012
33%
November 2012
31%
December 2012
33%
Holiday 2012
32%
Average: 32.5 (33%)

Combined, 80% of all of the market share is devoted to Top 40/M!

As you can see, WNOW is greatly being beaten by WHTZ and WKTU within a 2:1 ratio. The following information is the share of Top 40/M in the New York Market:

AQH:

August 2012
13.5
September 2012
12.6
October 2012
11.9
November 2012
11
December 2012
11.6
Holiday 2012
11.2
Average: 11.96 (12)

Audience:

August 2012
4,291,867
September 2012
4,217,933
October 2012
4,199,167
November 2012
3,942,867
December 2012
4,156,667
Holiday 2012
4,058,733

Average: 4,144,539 (4.1 million listeners)
Percentage of Market Listeners: (Audience / Population)
August 2012
28%
September 2012
27%
October 2012
27%
November 2012
25%
December 2012
27%
Holiday 2012
26%
Average: 26.6 (27%)
 
Part 2...

Given all this information, you are probably wondering what does it all mean? Let's take it bit by bit in simple terms of the results in the last six months. Given the Top 40/M market out there right now, there are currently 12 people listening to Top 40/M every 15 minutes. There are 4.1 million listeners and Top 40/M owns 27% of the all of the format choices given the population in the New York Market. How can one change the direction of WNOW?

Let's begin at looking at the number of people listening to Top 40/M within a 15 minute period. In the last six months, there has been 12 people. Since there are only three Top 40/M stations in the market, how can WNOW take a share of the Top 40/M market and make it even with the three stations out there? In other words, make WNOW with a 4 share, WHTZ with a 4 share, and WKTU with a 4 share. If you reflect back on the information given above, WNOW is beaten within a 2:1 ratio compared to WHTZ and WKTU. If you wanted to break even in the market, the best solution to the problem is simply looking at what both radio stations have to offer and compare it to WNOW.

The following is what WHTZ and WKTU offer:

ü Certified jingle package

ü Experienced disc jockeys

ü Mixture of hit music

ü Annual concerts

ü More music, less talk (except mornings)

The following is what WNOW offers:

ü Unprofessional jingle package (including the top of the hour)

ü High school level radio disc jockeys

ü Inconsistent mixture of hit music

ü No annual concerts

ü Less music, more talk

If WNOW wants to be a professional Top 40/M competitor in Market #1, it must do the following:

1) Change disc jockey and schedule

2) Decide on a music direction

3) Hire radio jingle package

The most important thing to do here is decide which of the two Top 40/M do you want to compete with? Given the many attempts by WNOW to be like WHTZ, do you want to be like WKTU or given the potential that WNOW still has in the market, do you want to be like WHTZ? What does this mean? Do you want to be more rhythmic and play throwbacks from the 90s-2000s mixed with current hits like WKTU or do you want to play more mixture of pop rock and alternative hits included with the current hits like WHTZ? WNOW must decide how it wants to approach.

If I had your position and/or able to work with you, my brother and I developed a unique way which will make WNOW competitive under two directions. Ultimately, you will want to decide what kind of station you would like to be.

Direction #1: WHTZ direction

1) Fire the current staff keeping selective weekend disc jockeys such as Ben Harvey and Ryder. These two men have the unique Top 40/M voice to keep WNOW competitive and keep on par with a WHTZ direction. How would the line-up be like?

Weekdays:

6:00 AM - 10:00 AM - Total Access with Michael Maze

10:00 AM - 2:00 PM - Michael Yo

2:00 PM - 6:00 PM - ON with Mario Lopez

6:00 PM - 10:00 PM - Rich Davis

10:00 PM - 2:00 PM - Ben Harvey

2:00 AM - 6:00 AM - Ryder

Weekends:

6:00 AM - 10:00AM - Total Access with Michael Maze (Best of)

10:00 AM - 2:00 PM - Ben Harvey

2:00 PM - 6:00 PM - Ryder

6:00 PM - 10:00 PM - Top 40 NOW w/Michael Maze

10:00 PM - 2:00AM - FILL IN

2:00AM - 6:00AM - FILL IN

6:00AM - 10:00AM - Rick Dees Weekly Top 40

10:00AM - 2:00PM - Ben Harvey

2:00PM - 6:00PM - Ryder

6:00PM - 10:00PM - Top 40 NOW w/Michael Maze (encore)

10:00 PM - 2:00AM - FILL IN

2:00AM - 6:00AM - FILL IN

The following is purely descriptions of the shows in the lineup:

Total Access with Michael Maze

The show was once on WKCI-FM (KC101) in Connecticut before he was let go by none other than Elvis Duran. As you are probably aware, Michael Maze does weekends on WWFS. Giving him the opportunity to create a morning show that the city can be proud of in New York would add another great guy to listen to over what you currently have on now which is sleazy, disorganized, and does not connect with the New York listeners. Total Access with Michael Maze would be a different morning show than Elvis Duran, more music, less talk. A mix found on WLTW, more music blended with talk of the morning's biggest events, news, and traffic, this morning show be the first step in creating a worthy Top 40/M morning show NOW!

Michael Yo

They say the man with the plan is the one in demand. Check out: http://www.michaelyo.com/

Michael Yo rocked WHYI (Y100) in Miami for many years, but being let go last year. What a loss for them and a gain for NOW. Mr. Yo comes with a nationally-recognized The Michael Yo Show which can be on par with On Air with Ryan Seacrest and Wendy Wild over at the competition. Check out: http://omg.yahoo.com/yo-show/

Mr. Yo is Top 40/M and can grab New Yorkers throughout the day with the great blend and direction NOW would be presenting. New Yorkers will instantly be attracted to the voice and compassion that comes in having Yo on the air.

ON with Mario Lopez

The host of TV's Extra is on NOW. ON top of the latest news and gossip straight from Hollywood, Mario is ON the air with the hottest celebs and artists every weekday. Take your listeners out ON the scene as Mario takes you inside the biggest entertainment events of the year, such as the Grammys, Oscars and Emmys. Playing your local music with customized song sells, Mario is ON board with your playlist and local imaging. He's also ONline with exclusive web/social media content. You get a personality you can depend ON NOW!

Hosted by popular television personality, producer, actor and best-selling author Mario Lopez, On with Mario Lopez is a four-hour, music-intensive program featuring a unique blend of entertainment stories and celebrity interviews from a multimedia star's point of view. Originating from The Grove in Los Angeles, Lopez keeps listeners up to date on the latest news, gossip and events, in addition to sharing his conversations with the hottest celebrities and music artists.

ON with Mario Lopez. Get ON NOW!

Rich Davis

Mr. Davis, a star of SIRIUS Hits 1's 'The Morning Mash Up' can now be found making an even bigger splash on SIRIUS Maxim Radio. Davis, a 7-year plus radio veteran, has interviewed everyone from Justin Timberlake to Jay-Z and Jessica Simpson. In 2000, at the age of 21, Davis began hosting the nighttime show at WHTZ/New York. Previously, he worked on-air at WIOQ Philadelphia, WPLJ New York, and WWHT Syracuse. A Syracuse University graduate, Davis landed on air at WJPZ Syracuse in 1998 for his first radio gig. Davis will fit perfectly with the Top 40/M scene on New York radio and taking New York into the night NOW!

Ben Harvey & Ryder

Two different men in their own right, their sound for Top 40/M blends perfectly in the direction WNOW would like to go and contribute to the ongoing pace that is in New York. Their professionalism during transitions from one hit to the other will continue to have WNOW right on track to get more people listening as possible.

Top 40 NOW w/Michael Maze

Hosted by WNOW's morning show host, the show is exclusive to WNOW and would heard on weekends. The show will showcase the biggest hits on WNOW as updated every Friday at 5pm. Top 40 NOW will contribute Mr. Maze to discuss the week's biggest news events across entertainment and speak with today's biggest celebrities and musicians. New Yorkers will be constantly addicted to the in-the-know that comes with this exclusive countdown.

Rick Dees Weekly Top 40

The countdown will serve as the national countdown for WNOW heard on weekends. An internationally-syndicated radio program created and hosted by American radio personality Rick Dees. It is currently heard on over 200 radio stations worldwide and the American Forces Network. It is distributed domestically by Dial Global and internationally by Radio Express. It is also heard on Dees' official website. The show features: Sure Shot - a song predicted to crack the Top 40 in the following weeks. Weekly Top 40 Challenge - during the program, listeners will claim their prize. Behind the Velvet Rope with Kevin Dees - a gossip segment hosted by Rick's son Kevin; previously known as a segment hosted by Rick, Dees' Sleaze. What's Happening - a rundown of new movies, DVD's & Blu-Rays and music. Number One's Around the World - a look at the Number One song in various nations. Top Downloads - the hottest music, ringtones, TV shows and videos being downloaded from the Internet. Planet of the Apps - the latest news on mobile smartphone applications.

2) Change the music direction to reflect the competition.

Under the new direction of WNOW, here it a sample hour of WNOW:

Time
Artist
Title
Year
CRG
7:00 PM
SWIFT, TAYLOR
I Knew You Were Trouble
2011
C
7:04 PM
FLO RIDA
I Cry
2012
R
7:07 PM
LUMINEERS
Ho Hey
2012
C
7:10 PM
GUETTA, DAVID
Titanium f/Sia
2011
R
7:13 PM
IMAGINE DRAGONS
It's Time
2011
C
7:16 PM
MACKLEMORE & RYAN LEWIS
Thrift Shop f/Wanz
2012
C
7:20 PM
FUN.
Some Nights
2012
R
7:24 PM
STAN, ALEXANDRA
Mr. Saxobeat
2011
R
7:27 PM
MURS, OLLY
Troublemarker f/Flo Rida
2012
C
7:30 PM
SHEEHAN, ED
The A Team
2011
C
7:34 PM
OUTASIGHT
Tonight Is The Night
2012
R
7:37 PM
KEYS, ALICIA
Girl On Fire
2012
C
7:40 PM
ADELE
Rolling In The Deep
2011
R
7:44 PM
JAY-Z
Empire State of Mind f/Alicia Keys
2009
G
7:48 PM
PHILLIP PHILLIPS
Home
2012
R
7:52 PM
MAROON 5
Daylight
2012
C
7:55 PM
JENNIFER LOPEZ
On the Floor f/Pitbull
2012
R
7:59 PM
PINK
Try
2012
C
3) Jingle, jingle, and jingle!

The following are great websites to contact to make WNOW attractive especially with a Top of the Hour (TOH): "NOW 92.3... NEW YORK!" A liner for new music: "NOW Playing... "

http://reelworld.com/flashindex.php ***

http://samedaypromos.com/demos/

http://www.bcvoiceover.com/*

http://www.richvanslyke.com/*

http://www.themixgroup.com/mainstream.html**

http://www.seancaldwell.com/radio/*

*** treat with great importance. Both WHTZ and WKTU use this package to get their station imaged well.

** use without Scott Matthews who sounds just as unprofessional and sleazy as the disc jockeys. He does an awful job on WNOW.

* give consideration.

Direction #2: WKTU

1) 1) Fire the current staff keeping selective weekend disc jockeys such as Ben Harvey and Ryder. These two men have the unique Top 40/M voice to keep WNOW competitive and keep on par with a WKTU direction. How would the line-up be like?

Weekdays:

6:00 AM - 10:00 AM - Total Access with Michael Maze

10:00 AM - 2:00 PM - Michael Yo

2:00 PM - 6:00 PM - ON with Mario Lopez

6:00 PM - 10:00 PM - Rich Davis

10:00 PM - 2:00 PM - Ben Harvey

2:00 AM - 6:00 AM - Ryder

Weekends:

6:00 AM - 10:00AM - Total Access with Michael Maze (Best of)

10:00 AM - 2:00 PM - Ben Harvey

2:00 PM - 6:00 PM - Ryder

6:00 PM - 10:00 PM - Top 40 NOW w/Michael Maze*

10:00 PM - 2:00AM - FILL IN

2:00AM - 6:00AM - FILL IN

6:00AM - 10:00AM - FILL IN

10:00AM - 2:00PM - Ben Harvey

2:00PM - 7:00PM - Ryder

7:00PM - 12:00PM - FILL IN

10:00 PM - 2:00AM - FILL IN

2:00AM - 6:00AM - FILL IN

*The countdown still exclusive to WNOW would be more rhythmic than it is with direction #1.

2) Change the music direction to reflect the station.
3) Jingle, jingle, and jingle!

The following are great websites to contact to make WNOW pop especially with a Top of the Hour (TOH):

http://reelworld.com/flashindex.php ***

http://samedaypromos.com/demos/

http://www.bcvoiceover.com/*

http://www.richvanslyke.com/*

http://www.themixgroup.com/mainstream.html**

http://www.seancaldwell.com/radio/*

*** treat with great importance. Both WHTZ and WKTU use this package to get their station imaged well.

** use with Scott Matthews who sounds just as unprofessional and sleazy as the disc jockeys.

* give consideration

Finally, WNOW needs a new look, a logo that looks amazing. A logo that trendy, but Top 40/M.

In the end, you and other staff are the only individuals who can make a decision on the direction that will change the station for the better. The better you invest, the better the station will be. Really consider what you have on WNOW right now and imagine what can be better going forward. How can you get 2 people to 3 or 4 people? From 2.6 million to 3.6 million? It's possible with the right direction. I fully promise that if you adapt the ideas lay out here, you will do great and the station will as well. Aside from all the other things to add on, you want to use your resources you already have. You are CBS Radio. You have the #1 television network in the USA, coverage of the Grammys & Super Bowl, and Viacom which includes MTV & VH1. Sure, they are not what they used to be, but you have to resources to really establish a brand.

Check out the new station Nash FM 94.7. Their presentation for the station is amazing from Day 1, hour 1. Check out their website which should mirror the trending look the new WNOW should have with the NOW logo reflecting artists playing on the station. Also, it should not be called 92.3 NOW. Make the name stick with people by introducing it first-hand. Therefore, as the logo show above, it should be NOW 92.3. Obtain the website nowfm.com. Make it a brand. It's already a brand for several Top 40/M station across the USA.

I have a done initial research on you, Mr. Gillette. You have worked with DMX Music, a music firm that programs music for businesses such as Ralph Lauren, Victoria’s Secret, H&M, Nordstrom, Macy’s and Wynn Resorts. You must understand and value that presentation is anything to people. Imagine you walked into Macy's on 34th or Victoria's Secret in Times Square and saw clothes and lingerie on the floor, everything disorganized. How would you look at the store? How would you consider the presentation of the store? People on radio blogs don't understand, but everything from the imaging, logo, and music presentation makes several stations staples on New York Radio. Look at your sister stations WCBS-FM & WWFS-FM. They have been able to establish themselves as brands because of their presentation, imaging, and music presentation. They understand their audience and commit to them. Don't you want to be a station played in stores across the city like your competitors are?

I would like to hear back from you as soon as you are able. My brother and I worked hard to develop a presentation that we think will create a new WNOW that will shape and even out the New York Radio market with Top 40/M market. Please respect us and give us your opinion. What works? What doesn't?

It can be done as soon as you are ready and up to go by March if you take February to work on putting it together. The station can be reintroduced on a Friday at 5pm to give listeners a new perspective and image of the station. We would be more than happy to come in and we could discuss the plan in person; we leave that to you.

Sincerely,
NY Radio Listener
 
MarkO said:
CBS still does alternative very well at KROQ/Los Angeles which is one of the top-ten billing stations in the country, and is currently running ahead of its local CC competitor KYSR by a widening margin. The core music at alternative has become more pop-oriented, and less reliant on vintage tracks, since K-Rock/NY went down (think back to WRXP in its final, encouraging, days under Merlin management), and the format’s prospects are generally looking up. (Look at Philly, for a nearby example.) I respect the desire of some for a dance format, such as the Evolution format launched by CC on some HD/low-powered signals in other markets, but in conventional terms the biggest gaping format hole in the NY market is alternative/contemporary rock. Would CBS actually flip 92.3 back to alternative so abruptly? Maybe not ready to abandon ship quite yet, given the good to excellent results CBS is currently having with CHR elsewhere….KAMP/LA and KMVQ/SF, for example….but then, again, other recent CBS flips to CHR including in NYC aren’t faring so nicely......

I can think of 3 alternative stations CBS still owns in LA, SF and Vegas. And LA is by far their most successful. Certainly helps that they have 30+ years of history, plus a morning show that's been around for over 20 years and still gets great ratings (especially in the key demos). Dunno about Vegas, but they're stuck in SF because they already own a Now-esque CHR and an FM simulcast of an AM news station, plus another company decided to do FM sports. For that matter I find it funny for that matter that LA's version of Now and Jack do a lot better than in NY.

I said it before, but they're just keeping the format for pride, since they have it in a lot of other markets.

By the way, listening to WINS on 92.3 after Sandy sounded nice. But they don't need to do that full time right now.
 
There's no room for 2 CHRs in NYC. Now needs to go. KTU is Rhythmic CHR more like Now is but they are again doing better. 92.3 should really go back to K-Rock but make it just like Radio 104.5 out of Philadelphia or like New Rock 101.9 that worked. Yet no one has dared to try it. So what if it failed two times, it wasn't done right either time. So what if they don't have Alternative's that are successful anywhere else? Why not try to do a different approach at alternative here and if it's successful then bring it to other markets.
 
92.3 Now when they first came out used to speed up there music. Just saying, I used to tune in a lot more, sounded more upbeat to me. I was fooled.
 
I read a post from DavidEduardo recently that said Now was billing alright, so until that changes or WINS needs a home on FM, I don't expect a thing to change. The station may be the worst of the CHR pack (and several other packs), but as long as it's making money, why change it?
 
chrocket87 said:
I read a post from DavidEduardo recently that said Now was billing alright

I wouldn't necessarily believe everything people post, especially about billing and demo ranking - I've seen people just flat out lie about facts they know most people don't have access to
 
To whatsnew3000, all I gotta say to what you've posted.....

DEEP!!!!! :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

WOW, it took me some time to read all of that but that was definitely informative. And spot on really.

Look, I really don't want anyone to lose their jobs on my post and that's why I've been writing this with "kid gloves" but following the station as I have been, you can tell that the character of the station has radically changed and not for the better. The only things that have been positive are the mix shows, and musically they are generally following what CHR stations do.

I didn't bring up this post to demand a format change here. That wasn't my point (and I'm sure people are shocked by that ;D ) But if CBS Radio is still being stubborn enough to stick to this, then they have to tweak what's going on. And yeah, I do think a "NOW" concert event (similar to KTUphoria and Z-100's Jingle Ball) could bring on some much needed attention to the brand.
 
atlantaboy said:
And in the case of 92.9 The Game in Atlanta, they completely bombed, as it still has a 0.6 share after 4-5 months on the air

IINM, 92.9 The Game doesn't have any Atlanta teams on its air. Before the flip to sports, 92.9 had the Falcons when they were DAVE-FM. No sports station in any market has a chance without pxp contracts. :)
 
d21ofnj said:
Watch 92.3 becomes WINS-FM if Now were to flip. ::)

Wouldn't surprise me at all! The issue I see with it is CBS would have two news stations on market-wide signals. CBS had that situation in Chicago when they purchased WMAQ from Westinghouse. CBS chose their heritage news outlet, WBBM. WMAQ became all-sports 670 The Score.

WINS with its directional signal on 1010 has always superserved NYC, while WCBS-AM has been very strong in the suburbs. WINS on a full-market FM might not be the same station we've known since 1965. :)
 
radioguy39nj said:
atlantaboy said:
And in the case of 92.9 The Game in Atlanta, they completely bombed, as it still has a 0.6 share after 4-5 months on the air

IINM, 92.9 The Game doesn't have any Atlanta teams on its air. Before the flip to sports, 92.9 had the Falcons when they were DAVE-FM. No sports station in any market has a chance without pxp contracts. :)

Star 94 got the Falcons exclusively last fall, and I don't know what argument CBS could use to persuade them to switch to a station with a share of 0.6
 
atlantaboy said:
radioguy39nj said:
atlantaboy said:
And in the case of 92.9 The Game in Atlanta, they completely bombed, as it still has a 0.6 share after 4-5 months on the air

IINM, 92.9 The Game doesn't have any Atlanta teams on its air. Before the flip to sports, 92.9 had the Falcons when they were DAVE-FM. No sports station in any market has a chance without pxp contracts. :)

Star 94 got the Falcons exclusively last fall, and I don't know what argument CBS could use to persuade them to switch to a station with a share of 0.6

The Cowboys are on a CBS-FM sports station in Dallas and last I checked they had anemic ratings too.
 
atlantaboy said:
chrocket87 said:
I read a post from DavidEduardo recently that said Now was billing alright

I wouldn't necessarily believe everything people post, especially about billing and demo ranking - I've seen people just flat out lie about facts they know most people don't have access to

David G. has access to that information. He's not bullsh***ing.
 
Some thought on previous posts

1. Nick Cannon was terrible. Out of touch, out of demo and out of the studio Terrible pretaped callers/conversations
2. Chunky was offensive to overweight women. (Cardinal sin on CHR) and he was all male humor. Neither had great ratings
3. Howard wants out of Sirius/XM. Perhaps a triumphant return to K-Rock
4. Michael Maze was not let go by ELvis Duran. He was replaced by him. Ratings have skyrocketed there since. He is not the answer. More music doesn't win in mornings. No loyaly. #Ipods
5. Rich Davis has 2 great shows on SAT. he's not leaving to do NIGHTS on a failing station. Also, Maxim was 6-7 years ago. It was Stars TOO after that and now INDIE
6. Alt music will never work without Howard as the anchor. Young men won't wear PPMs and are early adopters of alt platforms for music and content and have Howard and O & A
7. Now continues to be negative on air and women hate that. Male mentality at CBS
 
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