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92.3 WHAT FM?

WXRK-FM, 92.3 NOW, has been doing progressively well since Rick Gillette has taken the reign at WXRK a few months ago. Since then, the station has sounded less urban and rhythmic than it did a year ago with a crowded urban base in the NYC Market.

My question: considering where the direction of where CHR/Pop is right now, what kind of changes would you like to see at 92.3 NOW? Add a new show for the mornings and/or nights? This is NOT for people to comment on "Well, I want 92.3 WFAN-FM" or "I want a dance station." Leave those comments for an another post. What do you want to hear on 92.3 NOW? Do you want a carbon copy of Z100, KTU?

A few things they should do are the following:

1) Call Letters: Changing the call letters for the station would identify the station to be progressively moving a direction that would attract the massive radio audience out there. For instance, a few years ago when WNEW-FM was not WWFS, CBS Radio at the time took a serious approach and changed the call letters so people can identify with the station more. Therefore, for 92.3 NOW, what should it's call letters be? WTFY (stands for Top FortY)? WPOP (stands for POP)? This is important to create a better station and would let people know, CBS is serious about keeping NOW around.

2) Radio Shows: Let's face it. The shows currently on NOW are not appealing to people outside MAYBE Cannon's Countdown on Sunday Mornings, but that's where radio goes to die, who's listening to radio at this time in the week? The station wants to be live and local and they still can, but you have to throw people with a show where they can identify the station as they got that show. They sort-of had it with Nick Cannon to no success because this was Cannon's first try at it. For instance, Z100 has Elvis Duran, WCBS has Dan Taylor, WKTU has Paul Cubby Bryant. You need something.

I would suggest a look, not a definite hit at, Zach Sang & The Gang:

http://www.zachsangandthegang.com/

They just started in July 2012 wanting to target a young audience demographic. An additional plus, they're part of the CBS Radio family. They broadcast live from the CBS Radio Station reserved for Howard Stern before he left 92.3 on 57th Street in Manhattan, New York. They come on 7-11pm Monday through Friday. I believe giving a spot for the morning would definitely give NOW a chance to mix up the morning race as they try to fight off other morning shows.

3) Identify: I'm probably repeating here, but identify is important. Get a dang jingle package, WXRK! Something that sings, that rocks to get people listening and committed. I'm not talking Radioworld (Z100 and KTU have that), but a respectable jingle package to get NYC noticing the station.

Another part to the identify is probably including a unique show to the mix during any part of the day. I would suggest the morning, perhaps get Dunkin Donuts to sponsor a 4 hour commercial-free top 40 music morning. More music mornings to go against talk that happens in the morning and leave the radio shows for the afternoon and night?

In the end, WXRK needs to find a way to attract an audience and KEEP them. They're a station that can attract 3.5 million listeners one month (June) and 3.0 in the next (July). What are your suggestions? Again, no, I want dance radio or WFAN-FM. Let's have a serious discussion as this is a discussion board on suggestions for WXRK-FM (92.3 NOW).
 
I still don't get why CBS decided to flip to the current format. Not enough people already listen to Z100 and KTU? Turn it on and tell me how many times you hear "Wide Awake" or "Payphone" they need to just blow their failed experiment and bring back Krock.
 
ty_kleinle said:
I still don't get why CBS decided to flip to the current format. Not enough people already listen to Z100 and KTU? Turn it on and tell me how many times you hear "Wide Awake" or "Payphone" they need to just blow their failed experiment and bring back Krock.
Because Krock was bleeding money, since there weren't enough people who actually liked it and there was obviously enough room for one more CHR. Krock is never coming back, go to 101.9 if you want your rock. I'd hardly call it failed, it's getting great ratings considering how much competition it has and how much younger NOW is than its competition.
 
ty_kleinle said:
I still don't get why CBS decided to flip to the current format. Not enough people already listen to Z100 and KTU? Turn it on and tell me how many times you hear "Wide Awake" or "Payphone" they need to just blow their failed experiment and bring back Krock.

The station is doing far better than K-Rock was doing. Of course, if CBS had tried a real new rock station instead of such brilliant ideas as "Great Rock Period," perhaps things would have been different.

1) Call Letters: Changing the call letters for the station would identify the station to be progressively moving a direction that would attract the massive radio audience out there. For instance, a few years ago when WNEW-FM was not WWFS, CBS Radio at the time took a serious approach and changed the call letters so people can identify with the station more. Therefore, for 92.3 NOW, what should it's call letters be? WTFY (stands for Top FortY)? WPOP (stands for POP)? This is important to create a better station and would let people know, CBS is serious about keeping NOW around.

This is really silly. No one other than radio geeks cares about call letters.
 
neo911 said:
1) Call Letters: Changing the call letters for the station would identify the station to be progressively moving a direction that would attract the massive radio audience out there. For instance, a few years ago when WNEW-FM was not WWFS, CBS Radio at the time took a serious approach and changed the call letters so people can identify with the station more. Therefore, for 92.3 NOW, what should it's call letters be? WTFY (stands for Top FortY)? WPOP (stands for POP)? This is important to create a better station and would let people know, CBS is serious about keeping NOW around
This is really silly. No one other than radio geeks cares about call letters.

Agreed, I guarantee most people that listen to the station don't even know what the current call letters are.
 
Station is STILL nowhere near the top 5 in ANY core demos consistently. They came out of the gate all wrong and first impression has alot to do with connecting and listenership. They offer a music box with no personality. People are passionate about the contesting, music, personalities and overall presence of Z100. And 92.3 doesn't have much of the above. No matter how much any of us non-demo radio geeks like to bash on Z100 and blah blah blah on not liking it. It WORKS for the demo, and thats all a station cares about. If it makes money and performs... the station can care less about us radio dorks. And well, Z100 is performing... really well. Not sure there is much hope for 92.3. Z100 is not only a heritage monster, it sounds great for the demo and people connect with the personality that it bleeds.
 
from: neo911 on Today at 12:14:57 PM
I believe giving a spot (To Zach Sang + The Gang) for the morning would definitely give NOW a chance to mix up the morning race as they try to fight off other morning shows.

They just hired Ty Bentli away from KBIG L.A. for mornings about a month ago; I'd give it several months-1 year+ before making any decisions/changes.

92~3 Now had hoped to have the same success that sister-station KAMP L.A. has had; AMP Radio hasn't unseated KIIS-FM but has lived in the 3.5-4.0 share range (age 6+ overall) over the last 6 ratings periods while WXRK has fluctuated from 2.5-3.3 over the same period. 18-34 and 25-54 numbers might reflect a different perspective, however.

Currently KAMP is #4 in cume while WXRK is #7 (both stations just over 3 million/week).

Billing would be the ultimate barometer; perhaps Mr. Eduardo can answer that for us.
 
Call letters were a suggestion merely. It may be silly, but just a thought and nothing else. People on here can be real stuck-ups sometimes. Read your comments before posting them.
 
Let's also remember that Z-100 has been there for 29 years. Not easy to unseat a brand, especially a strong brand such as Z-100. It's like a new start-up cola going against Coke.
 
pjc1961 said:
Billing would be the ultimate barometer; perhaps Mr. Eduardo can answer that for us.

KAMP takes 3% of market revenue. WXRK takes 2.5%.
 
whatsnew3000 said:
Call letters were a suggestion merely. It may be silly, but just a thought and nothing else. People on here can be real stuck-ups sometimes. Read your comments before posting them.

Funny... i feel the same way about people who post something about suggesting that changing call letters would help them out. Maybe we should all read our posts before posting. Wouldn't you say?

And Zach Sang? Kid has never even cracked a mic on terrestrial radio. He's 19 and cannot relate to the target ADULT demo (18-34 and the morning revenue building demo of 25-54)... not for a few years anyway. Simmer down on that thought.

Stuck-up you say? Nope.. just us "stuck ups" gravitate to uneducated posts.
 
pjc1961 said:
from: neo911 whatsnew3000
I believe giving a spot (To Zach Sang + The Gang) for the morning would definitely give NOW a chance to mix up the morning race as they try to fight off other morning shows.

Just wanted to correct my quote attribution from my earlier post...sorry 'bout that.
 
I'll play along....

WNOW seems obvious, if taken....wxnw, wwnw, wrnw...

Imaging seems to be based around the term NOW. Unless you are getting at that the time has come for an image change.
 
WNOW and WNOW-FM are both spanish-language stations in the Charlotte market. WWNW is a college station in PA. WRNW is actually "Radio Now" in Milwaukee, owned by Clear Channel.

WXNW is the only one of those that is available.
 
And WRNW was once the callsign of 107.1 FM, where one Howard Stern worked. Full circle...
 
whatsnew3000 said:
WXRK-FM, 92.3 NOW, has been doing progressively well since Rick Gillette has taken the reign at WXRK a few months ago. Since then, the station has sounded less urban and rhythmic than it did a year ago with a crowded urban base in the NYC Market.

My question: considering where the direction of where CHR/Pop is right now, what kind of changes would you like to see at 92.3 NOW? Add a new show for the mornings and/or nights? This is NOT for people to comment on "Well, I want 92.3 WFAN-FM" or "I want a dance station." Leave those comments for an another post. What do you want to hear on 92.3 NOW? Do you want a carbon copy of Z100, KTU?

A few things they should do are the following:

1) Call Letters: Changing the call letters for the station would identify the station to be progressively moving a direction that would attract the massive radio audience out there. For instance, a few years ago when WNEW-FM was not WWFS, CBS Radio at the time took a serious approach and changed the call letters so people can identify with the station more. Therefore, for 92.3 NOW, what should it's call letters be? WTFY (stands for Top FortY)? WPOP (stands for POP)? This is important to create a better station and would let people know, CBS is serious about keeping NOW around.

2) Radio Shows: Let's face it. The shows currently on NOW are not appealing to people outside MAYBE Cannon's Countdown on Sunday Mornings, but that's where radio goes to die, who's listening to radio at this time in the week? The station wants to be live and local and they still can, but you have to throw people with a show where they can identify the station as they got that show. They sort-of had it with Nick Cannon to no success because this was Cannon's first try at it. For instance, Z100 has Elvis Duran, WCBS has Dan Taylor, WKTU has Paul Cubby Bryant. You need something.

I would suggest a look, not a definite hit at, Zach Sang & The Gang:

http://www.zachsangandthegang.com/

They just started in July 2012 wanting to target a young audience demographic. An additional plus, they're part of the CBS Radio family. They broadcast live from the CBS Radio Station reserved for Howard Stern before he left 92.3 on 57th Street in Manhattan, New York. They come on 7-11pm Monday through Friday. I believe giving a spot for the morning would definitely give NOW a chance to mix up the morning race as they try to fight off other morning shows.

3) Identify: I'm probably repeating here, but identify is important. Get a dang jingle package, WXRK! Something that sings, that rocks to get people listening and committed. I'm not talking Radioworld (Z100 and KTU have that), but a respectable jingle package to get NYC noticing the station.

Another part to the identify is probably including a unique show to the mix during any part of the day. I would suggest the morning, perhaps get Dunkin Donuts to sponsor a 4 hour commercial-free top 40 music morning. More music mornings to go against talk that happens in the morning and leave the radio shows for the afternoon and night?

In the end, WXRK needs to find a way to attract an audience and KEEP them. They're a station that can attract 3.5 million listeners one month (June) and 3.0 in the next (July). What are your suggestions? Again, no, I want dance radio or WFAN-FM. Let's have a serious discussion as this is a discussion board on suggestions for WXRK-FM (92.3 NOW).

I don't understand why you say that NOW is less rhythmic. A quick glance at the playlist and you can see that it is 100% rhythmic.
 
While Z-100 is a powerful brand and has almost 30 years of heritage, CHR has always been a format where you can make relatively quick inroads with a new station. In LA KAMP is building a respectable audience in the face of heritage KIIS. In Tampa-St. Pete, WPOI is beating WFLZ. In Chicago, WKSC is elbowing out WBBM-FM. In Detroit, WDZH has pulled ahead of WKQI, In Seattle, KQMV is beating out both KUBE and KBKS. While a tall hill to climb, WXRK has a shot at it.
 
whatsnew3000 said:
Again, no, I want dance radio or WFAN-FM. Let's have a serious discussion as this is a discussion board on suggestions for WXRK-FM (92.3 NOW).

I do think all discussions in here are serious. Even if it involves dance or sports if people feel that way. But, let's stick to discussion as you've stated.

At this point, going for a change of calls is rather moot considering if 92.3 Now is going to stick to the direction they are in or go differently. I do agree that Rick Gillette is doing a great job with the station. The lunchtime mix has been a nice add.

I have no problem with Lil' Cee considering he got "thrown" in there once Nick Cannon left but yeah, a well rounded morning show with him in it as well as others would be nice.

New identifiers would be nice too.

92.3 Now IS a CHR station and I do like it. I wouldn't want for them to change, to be quite honest. And yes, they are more dance intensive than Z-100.
 
I don't think jingles or anything else would help. I think they sound pretty good and I think they're as good as they ever will be in the ratings. I think a 2.5 share is pretty respectable, considering that they're competing with z100, which has been around forever and has a great morning show.
 
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