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92.7 in the IE is Air1 not Jill

david

david

Amaturo moved its 92.7 up the hill to allow for adequate spacing for the 92.7 to be moved in from Avalon to service Fountain Valley. Since then, Air1 has put on air a low power (LP) signal in Fontana, which obviously prevents any bleeding/over-lapping of the 3 signals in the IE.
What is the back story here? If an LP was available there, why wasn't Amaturo given first dibs, and what can be done now to hand it over to Amaturo?
 
Nothing can be done about it. It is actually a translator for KLRD. The Adelanto "Jill" station would not technically qualify for an on frequency booster at that location.
 
I am not in the radio business but if I am not mistaken Amaturo already had "first dibs" and elected to sacrifice the IE by moving 92.7 up to the High Desert from Riverside a few years back in order to better serve the OC and eastern LA County, even though the old 92.7 in Riverside had a decent (for a IE station) signal in those areas. Although I like Jill-FM it is intersting that they seem to treat KAJL as a repeater only; they offer no local content in Victorville, including no traffic reports (odd to hear that traffic is flowing on the 101 and 405 when you are stuck in traffic on I-15).
 
Spunky711 said:
I am not in the radio business but if I am not mistaken Amaturo already had "first dibs" and elected to sacrifice the IE by moving 92.7 up to the High Desert from Riverside a few years back in order to better serve the OC and eastern LA County, even though the old 92.7 in Riverside had a decent (for a IE station) signal in those areas. Although I like Jill-FM it is intersting that they seem to treat KAJL as a repeater only; they offer no local content in Victorville, including no traffic reports (odd to hear that traffic is flowing on the 101 and 405 when you are stuck in traffic on I-15).
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I remember when 92.7 was KWDJ country format with a decent signal even in parts of Orange County.

You're right about the "repeater" concept, it's almost the same, except for the traffic reports, for the Orange County stick. The majority of advertisers still seem to be centered around the Thousand Oaks/Westlake Village/San Fernando Valley hub. JILL's signal is very decent throughout 85% of Orange County and there are so many advertisers in the OC they are neglecting. They have just about ZERO presence in Orange County, wasting the better signal for an inferior one in Thousand Oaks.
 
The majority of advertisers still seem to be centered around the Thousand Oaks/Westlake Village/San Fernando Valley hub.
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That might have to do with the fact that Thousand Oaks is the flagship station, and has been paying the bills since day one. You would think it would be wise to sell the markets separately, including localized traffic reports and News. I doubt anyone in the Victor Valley is going to run down to the Oaks Mall for anything!

They have just about ZERO presence in Orange County, wasting the better signal for an inferior one in Thousand Oaks.
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Spendable income in Thousand Oaks, Westlake Village has consistently been amongst the highest in the nation; Even back in 1987 it was over $55,000 in the 91360 Zip Code, and much higher in 91362 which includes the Ventura County portion of Westlake Village. That does not include the very affluent Agoura Hills, Calabasas along the 101, and surrounding communities like Camarillo (also with a very high spendable income) Moorpark and Simi Valley. 92.7 FM Thousand Oaks has always been a goldmine for the many owners since it signed on back in 1963.

Taking the tower off Rasno Peak in Thousand Oaks was the first big mistake Amaturo made, many areas like affluent Santa Clarita have lost the signal, another mistake was not buying KZIQ Ridgecrest outright; the KZIQ signal covered the entire High Desert, and provided good overlapping coverage for the Thousand Oaks signal. One example of the overlapping coverage was at the Barnes & Noble in Santa Clarita, you could literally change which station you listened to by changing parking spaces,overlapping coverage also included Hwy 14 & I-5. KZIQ Ridgecrest also provided some overlapping coverage for Riverside on the 15, and Avalon provided overlapping coverage between Thousand Oaks and Riverside; Avalon also filled in some shadows in Simi Valley's east end. Amaturo really blew it with the changes and moves of 92.7, now you have gaps all over the place. Before the changes, you could drive from Bishop to Santa Barbara, from Thousand Oaks to Barstow and down to the South Bay without loosing a signal on 92.7; not always city grade but always something there, with the only interference coming from one of the other 92.7's cutting in.

Amaturo seems to lack the ability to be innovative, and think outside the box; I would have checked out reality before going with looks good on paper.



Steve
www.knjoradio.com
 
When 92.7 was on Catalina, I was never able to get a listenable signal. And I am looking at Avalon from OC on a clear day.

Catalina was a waste of electricity so that part of the move was a good idea anyway.
 
They can't be moved back. If a station has it's city of license in a community where it is the only radio service it can't "move". Another station must have the same c.o.l. and Fountain Valley and Adelanto only have a "Jill".
 
Spendable income in Thousand Oaks, Westlake Village has consistently been amongst the highest in the nation; Even back in 1987 it was over $55,000 in the 91360 Zip Code, and much higher in 91362 which includes the Ventura County portion of Westlake Village. That does not include the very affluent Agoura Hills, Calabasas along the 101, and surrounding communities like Camarillo (also with a very high spendable income) Moorpark and Simi Valley. 92.7 FM Thousand Oaks has always been a goldmine for the many owners since it signed on back in 1963.
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I was one who lived in Westlake Village listening to KNJO 92.7 back in the 1980's. It was the strongest FM signal at that time in the area. My income was not quite as high as the average, but I knew that part of Ventura county had many affluent people living there. Many of the businesses had 92.7 on in their stores when a couple of the other locals were off the air (99.3 & 102.3) during the weekdays. It was a great time back in the 1980's to live in that part of So. Cal. Sure glad I'm not there anymore.

-Glenn
 
I also remember when 92.7 in the IE only (Could not pick up the Thousand Oaks signal). You could pick it up from the Palm Springs to almost downtown LA and all the way down to Temecula. Then 92.7 went on the air in the Coachella Valley which restricted the signal to the east; then the Avalon signal went up and they went to simulcast cast Lite-FM. In Corona the overlap was horrible and Northern OC was just unlistenable. At least at that time you had overlap, today there are so many pockets in some places it is still unlistenable. Since I enjoy the format I just listen to Jill-FM on my smartphone when out of coverage areas.
 
Spunky711 said:
I also remember when 92.7 in the IE only (Could not pick up the Thousand Oaks signal). You could pick it up from the Palm Springs to almost downtown LA and all the way down to Temecula. Then 92.7 went on the air in the Coachella Valley which restricted the signal to the east; then the Avalon signal went up and they went to simulcast cast Lite-FM. In Corona the overlap was horrible and Northern OC was just unlistenable. At least at that time you had overlap, today there are so many pockets in some places it is still unlistenable. Since I enjoy the format I just listen to Jill-FM on my smartphone when out of coverage areas.
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I believe they got bad advice. The 92.7 in the I.E. could have been a very valuable signal. I'd rather have essentially what amounts to full coverage in market 25 - where there are only 8-10 local FM's, than covering 22% of the L.A. metro (which they do now) and eeking out a 0.2.

You can bill a decent number of dollars with big numbers in the I.E.
 
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