I was on Yes.com today and noticed that 92.9 has WBZB listed. Was this a mix up also?<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by toddjammin on 12/12/05 01:59 PM.</FONT></P>
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I noticed that WLTJ will not come up, WBZB is the only thing that will for 92.9. Still an error, or what?!
> I was on Yes.com today and noticed that 92.9 has WBZB
> listed. Was this a mix up also?
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> I was on Yes.com today and noticed that 92.9 has WBZB
> listed. Was this a mix up also?
> <P ID="signature">______________
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>That's my biggest question. on the 92.9 website, It has WLTJ but not on yes.com? I really hope they do flip formats.
I noticed that WLTJ will not come up, WBZB is the only thing
> that will for 92.9. Still an error, or what?!
>
>
> > I was on Yes.com today and noticed that 92.9 has WBZB
> > listed. Was this a mix up also?
> >
>
I noticed that WLTJ will not come up, WBZB is the only thing
> that will for 92.9. Still an error, or what?!
>
>
> > I was on Yes.com today and noticed that 92.9 has WBZB
> > listed. Was this a mix up also?
> >
>
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> >That's my biggest question. on the 92.9 website, It has
> WLTJ but not on yes.com? I really hope they do flip
> formats.
>
> I noticed that WLTJ will not come up, WBZB is the only
> thing
> > that will for 92.9. Still an error, or what?!
> >
> >
> > > I was on Yes.com today and noticed that 92.9 has WBZB
> > > listed. Was this a mix up also?
> > >
> >
>
Well, someone might have to actually listen to the station and see what they're using as their legal ID... I'd suspect that they're burying it if they're now using BZB...<P ID="signature">______________
"With God as my witness, I could have sworn turkeys could fly."</P>
> WLTJ but not on yes.com? I really hope they do flip
> formats.
>
> I noticed that WLTJ will not come up, WBZB is the only
> thing
> > that will for 92.9. Still an error, or what?!
> >
> >
> > > I was on Yes.com today and noticed that 92.9 has WBZB
> > > listed. Was this a mix up also?
> > >
> >
>
Well, someone might have to actually listen to the station and see what they're using as their legal ID... I'd suspect that they're burying it if they're now using BZB...<P ID="signature">______________
"With God as my witness, I could have sworn turkeys could fly."</P>
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Guest
> Well, someone might have to actually listen to the station
> and see what they're using as their legal ID...
That's asking an awful lot, what with them currently playing "holiday" music.
Perhaps someone else is willing to take one for the team and tune in, but I'm not.
> and see what they're using as their legal ID...
That's asking an awful lot, what with them currently playing "holiday" music.
Perhaps someone else is willing to take one for the team and tune in, but I'm not.
92.9 WLTJ
we are still 92.9 WLTJ, by the way you can listen live at http://www.wltj.com
this is the only comment I will make on this topic
we are still 92.9 WLTJ, by the way you can listen live at http://www.wltj.com
this is the only comment I will make on this topic
Re: 92.9 WLTJ
> we are still 92.9 WLTJ, by the way you can listen live at
> http://www.wltj.com
> this is the only comment I will make on this topic
>
I am gonna have to pass on the listen live, I can only handle so much holiday music. The above comment is interesting though. By the above, I would have to assume the first thoughts of a format flip and B93? I dunno...I quit coming up with senarios! Guess we have to wait until the holiday season is over to find out what becomes of LTJ. <P ID="signature">______________
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> we are still 92.9 WLTJ, by the way you can listen live at
> http://www.wltj.com
> this is the only comment I will make on this topic
>
I am gonna have to pass on the listen live, I can only handle so much holiday music. The above comment is interesting though. By the above, I would have to assume the first thoughts of a format flip and B93? I dunno...I quit coming up with senarios! Guess we have to wait until the holiday season is over to find out what becomes of LTJ. <P ID="signature">______________
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Re: 92.9 WLTJ
> > we are still 92.9 WLTJ, by the way you can listen live at
> > http://www.wltj.com
> > this is the only comment I will make on this topic
> >
>
>
> I am gonna have to pass on the listen live, I can only
> handle so much holiday music. The above comment is
> interesting though. By the above, I would have to assume
> the first thoughts of a format flip and B93? I dunno...I
> quit coming up with senarios! Guess we have to wait until
> the holiday season is over to find out what becomes of LTJ.
>
The suspense is killing me.
I hate to get my hopes up, but I'll be tuning in on Midnight 12/26/05 just in case...
> > we are still 92.9 WLTJ, by the way you can listen live at
> > http://www.wltj.com
> > this is the only comment I will make on this topic
> >
>
>
> I am gonna have to pass on the listen live, I can only
> handle so much holiday music. The above comment is
> interesting though. By the above, I would have to assume
> the first thoughts of a format flip and B93? I dunno...I
> quit coming up with senarios! Guess we have to wait until
> the holiday season is over to find out what becomes of LTJ.
>
The suspense is killing me.
I hate to get my hopes up, but I'll be tuning in on Midnight 12/26/05 just in case...Re: 92.9 WLTJ
> we are still 92.9 WLTJ, by the way you can listen live at
> http://www.wltj.com
> this is the only comment I will make on this topic
>
Anyone know once a station is approved to swap calls...how long may they use the old ones?
WBZB sure enough sounds like a throwback to B94 to me? And that would put K-Rock in a real crunch since that would mean no possible flip BACK to CHR. If you do some research, the parent company still owns the WBZZ calls...they just moved them elsewhere...would be easy to move back to the burgh and resurrect B94 in a heartbeat unless they are beat to the punch
> we are still 92.9 WLTJ, by the way you can listen live at
> http://www.wltj.com
> this is the only comment I will make on this topic
>
Anyone know once a station is approved to swap calls...how long may they use the old ones?
WBZB sure enough sounds like a throwback to B94 to me? And that would put K-Rock in a real crunch since that would mean no possible flip BACK to CHR. If you do some research, the parent company still owns the WBZZ calls...they just moved them elsewhere...would be easy to move back to the burgh and resurrect B94 in a heartbeat unless they are beat to the punch
R
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Re: 92.9 WLTJ
> WBZB sure enough sounds like a throwback to B94 to me? And
> that would put K-Rock in a real crunch since that would mean
> no possible flip BACK to CHR.
Huh?!?!?
Where is it written that a station must have a certain set of call letters in order to broadcast CHR?
> WBZB sure enough sounds like a throwback to B94 to me? And
> that would put K-Rock in a real crunch since that would mean
> no possible flip BACK to CHR.
Huh?!?!?
Where is it written that a station must have a certain set of call letters in order to broadcast CHR?
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Re: 92.9 WLTJ
> > WBZB sure enough sounds like a throwback to B94 to me?
> And
> > that would put K-Rock in a real crunch since that would
> mean
> > no possible flip BACK to CHR.
>
> Huh?!?!?
>
> Where is it written that a station must have a certain set
> of call letters in order to broadcast CHR?
>
Uhhhhhh... I think he meant that if LTJ flips to CHR, it would likely lock K-Rock out of going back to the format.
Wow.<P ID="signature">______________
"With God as my witness, I could have sworn turkeys could fly."</P>
> > WBZB sure enough sounds like a throwback to B94 to me?
> And
> > that would put K-Rock in a real crunch since that would
> mean
> > no possible flip BACK to CHR.
>
> Huh?!?!?
>
> Where is it written that a station must have a certain set
> of call letters in order to broadcast CHR?
>
Uhhhhhh... I think he meant that if LTJ flips to CHR, it would likely lock K-Rock out of going back to the format.
Wow.<P ID="signature">______________
"With God as my witness, I could have sworn turkeys could fly."</P>
Re: 92.9 WLTJ
> > > WBZB sure enough sounds like a throwback to B94 to me?
> > And
> > > that would put K-Rock in a real crunch since that would
> > mean
> > > no possible flip BACK to CHR.
> >
> > Huh?!?!?
> >
> > Where is it written that a station must have a certain set
>
> > of call letters in order to broadcast CHR?
> >
>
> Uhhhhhh... I think he meant that if LTJ flips to CHR, it
> would likely lock K-Rock out of going back to the format.
>
> Wow.
>
Yep...that was what I was getting at. K-Rock already lost out on JACK...so If LTJ becomes a CHR outlet, that shuts them out on that end as well, and seeing how they put the BZZ calls on ice, I'd venture a guess that the backup plan all along was to resurrect B94 if the bottom fell out of K-Rock once Howard bolted.
> > > WBZB sure enough sounds like a throwback to B94 to me?
> > And
> > > that would put K-Rock in a real crunch since that would
> > mean
> > > no possible flip BACK to CHR.
> >
> > Huh?!?!?
> >
> > Where is it written that a station must have a certain set
>
> > of call letters in order to broadcast CHR?
> >
>
> Uhhhhhh... I think he meant that if LTJ flips to CHR, it
> would likely lock K-Rock out of going back to the format.
>
> Wow.
>
Yep...that was what I was getting at. K-Rock already lost out on JACK...so If LTJ becomes a CHR outlet, that shuts them out on that end as well, and seeing how they put the BZZ calls on ice, I'd venture a guess that the backup plan all along was to resurrect B94 if the bottom fell out of K-Rock once Howard bolted.
R
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Guest
Re: 92.9 WLTJ
> > > > WBZB sure enough sounds like a throwback to B94 to me?
>
> > > And
> > > > that would put K-Rock in a real crunch since that
> would
> > > mean
> > > > no possible flip BACK to CHR.
> > >
> > > Huh?!?!?
> > >
> > > Where is it written that a station must have a certain
> set
> >
> > > of call letters in order to broadcast CHR?
> > >
> >
> > Uhhhhhh... I think he meant that if LTJ flips to CHR, it
> > would likely lock K-Rock out of going back to the format.
> >
> > Wow.
> >
> Yep...that was what I was getting at. K-Rock already lost
> out on JACK...so If LTJ becomes a CHR outlet, that shuts
> them out on that end as well, and seeing how they put the
> BZZ calls on ice, I'd venture a guess that the backup plan
> all along was to resurrect B94 if the bottom fell out of
> K-Rock once Howard bolted.
Second question. Where is it written that two stations cannot attempt to compete with each other head-to-head with the same format? Many, many years ago, before the creation of so many slightly different formats, it was common for two or more top-40 station to duke it out directly. If 92.9 goes CHR, what's to stop 93.7 from attempt to take them on directly?
> > > > WBZB sure enough sounds like a throwback to B94 to me?
>
> > > And
> > > > that would put K-Rock in a real crunch since that
> would
> > > mean
> > > > no possible flip BACK to CHR.
> > >
> > > Huh?!?!?
> > >
> > > Where is it written that a station must have a certain
> set
> >
> > > of call letters in order to broadcast CHR?
> > >
> >
> > Uhhhhhh... I think he meant that if LTJ flips to CHR, it
> > would likely lock K-Rock out of going back to the format.
> >
> > Wow.
> >
> Yep...that was what I was getting at. K-Rock already lost
> out on JACK...so If LTJ becomes a CHR outlet, that shuts
> them out on that end as well, and seeing how they put the
> BZZ calls on ice, I'd venture a guess that the backup plan
> all along was to resurrect B94 if the bottom fell out of
> K-Rock once Howard bolted.
Second question. Where is it written that two stations cannot attempt to compete with each other head-to-head with the same format? Many, many years ago, before the creation of so many slightly different formats, it was common for two or more top-40 station to duke it out directly. If 92.9 goes CHR, what's to stop 93.7 from attempt to take them on directly?
Re: 92.9 WLTJ
> > > > > WBZB sure enough sounds like a throwback to B94 to
> me?
> >
> > > > And
> > > > > that would put K-Rock in a real crunch since that
> > would
> > > > mean
> > > > > no possible flip BACK to CHR.
> > > >
> > > > Huh?!?!?
> > > >
> > > > Where is it written that a station must have a certain
>
> > set
> > >
> > > > of call letters in order to broadcast CHR?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Uhhhhhh... I think he meant that if LTJ flips to CHR, it
>
> > > would likely lock K-Rock out of going back to the
> format.
> > >
> > > Wow.
> > >
> > Yep...that was what I was getting at. K-Rock already lost
>
> > out on JACK...so If LTJ becomes a CHR outlet, that shuts
> > them out on that end as well, and seeing how they put the
> > BZZ calls on ice, I'd venture a guess that the backup plan
>
> > all along was to resurrect B94 if the bottom fell out of
> > K-Rock once Howard bolted.
>
> Second question. Where is it written that two stations
> cannot attempt to compete with each other head-to-head with
> the same format? Many, many years ago, before the creation
> of so many slightly different formats, it was common for two
> or more top-40 station to duke it out directly. If 92.9 goes
> CHR, what's to stop 93.7 from attempt to take them on
> directly?
And Kiss too! That would be THREE CHR stations competing in Pittsburgh. I don't see that happening.
Also, if the calls were actually intended for 96.9 Bob-FM, then why didn't they simply move them there instead of suddenly getting rid of them? 96.9 is still WRRK. The fact that 96.9 didn't change to WBZB leads me to believe they were (are) intended for 92.9.
> > > > > WBZB sure enough sounds like a throwback to B94 to
> me?
> >
> > > > And
> > > > > that would put K-Rock in a real crunch since that
> > would
> > > > mean
> > > > > no possible flip BACK to CHR.
> > > >
> > > > Huh?!?!?
> > > >
> > > > Where is it written that a station must have a certain
>
> > set
> > >
> > > > of call letters in order to broadcast CHR?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Uhhhhhh... I think he meant that if LTJ flips to CHR, it
>
> > > would likely lock K-Rock out of going back to the
> format.
> > >
> > > Wow.
> > >
> > Yep...that was what I was getting at. K-Rock already lost
>
> > out on JACK...so If LTJ becomes a CHR outlet, that shuts
> > them out on that end as well, and seeing how they put the
> > BZZ calls on ice, I'd venture a guess that the backup plan
>
> > all along was to resurrect B94 if the bottom fell out of
> > K-Rock once Howard bolted.
>
> Second question. Where is it written that two stations
> cannot attempt to compete with each other head-to-head with
> the same format? Many, many years ago, before the creation
> of so many slightly different formats, it was common for two
> or more top-40 station to duke it out directly. If 92.9 goes
> CHR, what's to stop 93.7 from attempt to take them on
> directly?
And Kiss too! That would be THREE CHR stations competing in Pittsburgh. I don't see that happening.
Also, if the calls were actually intended for 96.9 Bob-FM, then why didn't they simply move them there instead of suddenly getting rid of them? 96.9 is still WRRK. The fact that 96.9 didn't change to WBZB leads me to believe they were (are) intended for 92.9.
R
Radio_Realist
Guest
Re: 92.9 WLTJ
> > Second question. Where is it written that two stations
> > cannot attempt to compete with each other head-to-head
> with
> > the same format? Many, many years ago, before the creation
>
> > of so many slightly different formats, it was common for
> two
> > or more top-40 station to duke it out directly. If 92.9
> goes
> > CHR, what's to stop 93.7 from attempt to take them on
> > directly?
>
> And Kiss too! That would be THREE CHR stations competing in
> Pittsburgh. I don't see that happening.
Considering that Kiss sounds like a hybrid urban/CHR station, there's still room for a couple of stations to duke it out over the "pure" CHR market.
> Also, if the calls were actually intended for 96.9 Bob-FM,
> then why didn't they simply move them there instead of
> suddenly getting rid of them? 96.9 is still WRRK. The fact
> that 96.9 didn't change to WBZB leads me to believe they
> were (are) intended for 92.9.
As was mentioned earlier, there are quite a few folks in here who think that the calls were intended for 96.9, but someone made a mistake in the application process. As someone else said, never blame malice for what could be explained by stupidity.
> > Second question. Where is it written that two stations
> > cannot attempt to compete with each other head-to-head
> with
> > the same format? Many, many years ago, before the creation
>
> > of so many slightly different formats, it was common for
> two
> > or more top-40 station to duke it out directly. If 92.9
> goes
> > CHR, what's to stop 93.7 from attempt to take them on
> > directly?
>
> And Kiss too! That would be THREE CHR stations competing in
> Pittsburgh. I don't see that happening.
Considering that Kiss sounds like a hybrid urban/CHR station, there's still room for a couple of stations to duke it out over the "pure" CHR market.
> Also, if the calls were actually intended for 96.9 Bob-FM,
> then why didn't they simply move them there instead of
> suddenly getting rid of them? 96.9 is still WRRK. The fact
> that 96.9 didn't change to WBZB leads me to believe they
> were (are) intended for 92.9.
As was mentioned earlier, there are quite a few folks in here who think that the calls were intended for 96.9, but someone made a mistake in the application process. As someone else said, never blame malice for what could be explained by stupidity.
Re: 92.9 WLTJ
> Second question. Where is it written that two stations
> cannot attempt to compete with each other head-to-head with
> the same format? Many, many years ago, before the creation
> of so many slightly different formats, it was common for two
> or more top-40 station to duke it out directly. If 92.9 goes
> CHR, what's to stop 93.7 from attempt to take them on
> directly?
>
It CAN happen...but rarely does. Scott Shannon could not pull it off in New York with PLJ against Z100. If the #1 market in the country cannot sustain 2 CHR's, I doubt too many others can either. Case in point, Mix Jamz 100.7 failed...WNRJ (energy 105) failed...in their heyday, B94 and Variety 96 duked it out and 96 eventually flipped to A/C.
Look at the lack of impact Froggy has had on Y108 and that should tell you. Unless you are damn good at what you do and can unseat your competitor, not a lot of point to taking them head on. I do not think that will happen.
> Second question. Where is it written that two stations
> cannot attempt to compete with each other head-to-head with
> the same format? Many, many years ago, before the creation
> of so many slightly different formats, it was common for two
> or more top-40 station to duke it out directly. If 92.9 goes
> CHR, what's to stop 93.7 from attempt to take them on
> directly?
>
It CAN happen...but rarely does. Scott Shannon could not pull it off in New York with PLJ against Z100. If the #1 market in the country cannot sustain 2 CHR's, I doubt too many others can either. Case in point, Mix Jamz 100.7 failed...WNRJ (energy 105) failed...in their heyday, B94 and Variety 96 duked it out and 96 eventually flipped to A/C.
Look at the lack of impact Froggy has had on Y108 and that should tell you. Unless you are damn good at what you do and can unseat your competitor, not a lot of point to taking them head on. I do not think that will happen.
R
Radio_Realist
Guest
Re: 92.9 WLTJ
I don't disagree that if two stations go head-to-head, one will win and the other will lose. But isn't which one wins determined more by who does the better job of running a given format than simply by who started first?
> > Second question. Where is it written that two stations
> > cannot attempt to compete with each other head-to-head
> with
> > the same format? Many, many years ago, before the creation
>
> > of so many slightly different formats, it was common for
> two
> > or more top-40 station to duke it out directly. If 92.9
> goes
> > CHR, what's to stop 93.7 from attempt to take them on
> > directly?
> >
> It CAN happen...but rarely does. Scott Shannon could not
> pull it off in New York with PLJ against Z100. If the #1
> market in the country cannot sustain 2 CHR's, I doubt too
> many others can either. Case in point, Mix Jamz 100.7
> failed...WNRJ (energy 105) failed...in their heyday, B94 and
> Variety 96 duked it out and 96 eventually flipped to A/C.
>
> Look at the lack of impact Froggy has had on Y108 and that
> should tell you. Unless you are damn good at what you do
> and can unseat your competitor, not a lot of point to taking
> them head on. I do not think that will happen.
>
I don't disagree that if two stations go head-to-head, one will win and the other will lose. But isn't which one wins determined more by who does the better job of running a given format than simply by who started first?
> > Second question. Where is it written that two stations
> > cannot attempt to compete with each other head-to-head
> with
> > the same format? Many, many years ago, before the creation
>
> > of so many slightly different formats, it was common for
> two
> > or more top-40 station to duke it out directly. If 92.9
> goes
> > CHR, what's to stop 93.7 from attempt to take them on
> > directly?
> >
> It CAN happen...but rarely does. Scott Shannon could not
> pull it off in New York with PLJ against Z100. If the #1
> market in the country cannot sustain 2 CHR's, I doubt too
> many others can either. Case in point, Mix Jamz 100.7
> failed...WNRJ (energy 105) failed...in their heyday, B94 and
> Variety 96 duked it out and 96 eventually flipped to A/C.
>
> Look at the lack of impact Froggy has had on Y108 and that
> should tell you. Unless you are damn good at what you do
> and can unseat your competitor, not a lot of point to taking
> them head on. I do not think that will happen.
>
Re: 92.9 WLTJ
> As was mentioned earlier, there are quite a few folks in
> here who think that the calls were intended for 96.9, but
> someone made a mistake in the application process. As
> someone else said, never blame malice for what could be
> explained by stupidity.
>
Amen to that
> As was mentioned earlier, there are quite a few folks in
> here who think that the calls were intended for 96.9, but
> someone made a mistake in the application process. As
> someone else said, never blame malice for what could be
> explained by stupidity.
>
Amen to that
Re: 92.9 WLTJ
> > As was mentioned earlier, there are quite a few folks in
> > here who think that the calls were intended for 96.9, but
> > someone made a mistake in the application process. As
> > someone else said, never blame malice for what could be
> > explained by stupidity.
> >
> Amen to that
Leeshin, I think ya got ya ansher right dere.
> > As was mentioned earlier, there are quite a few folks in
> > here who think that the calls were intended for 96.9, but
> > someone made a mistake in the application process. As
> > someone else said, never blame malice for what could be
> > explained by stupidity.
> >
> Amen to that
Leeshin, I think ya got ya ansher right dere.
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