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93.7 & 103.7 Play Same Song @ Same Time About 1PM

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DJboutit3

93.7 & 103.7 were playin the same same song @ about 1pm today I guess stations do not monitor the compatition to see which song songs are being played so they will not play them @ the same time. This is one reasion why I do not listen to radio much any more 97.9 & 104.9 play the same song @ the same time at least twice a day that just sucks.
 
Brian, it is simply a coincidence. I've heard it happen in the 1960s all the way till now. Monitoring the stations have nothing to do with it. It doesn't work that way, because it doesn't happen enough to matter. There are some similarities in playlists for both of these stations. KKRW is owned by Clear Channel and KIOL is owned by Cumulus. File this under the Department of Much Ado About Nothing.
 
i've experienced the same dejavu....one minute at the point: zz top-sharp dressed man.....click to 96.5...the same.
go to 93.7 and clicking over to 103.7 the same aerosmith tune........only :14 seconds difference.
john mellencamp, journey, elton john.......and it's usually these same stations that do this....usually these same artists over and over...... :-\what's up wit' dis'?
 
What I hate is when it seems like all my favorite stations are playing commercials at the same time. I wouldn't be surprised if this was planned, especially among stations owned by the same company. :p
 
PyThomasTX said:
What I hate is when it seems like all my favorite stations are playing commercials at the same time. I wouldn't be surprised if this was planned, especially among stations owned by the same company. :p
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Sometimes, yes, it is planned. If you're listening to a station and it goes into commercials, and you flip to another station and hear commercials, there's a good chance that you will flip back and wait out the commercials because you enjoy the product, and because of having commercials at the same time, you didn't stay on the second station because you haven't experienced their product yet.
 
Jeez Louise!!! Bitch! Bitch! Bitch!

What did you do when KILT, KNUZ, KULF, KXYZ, and KRBE were all Top Forty stations? And they were ALL playing "Music Box Dancer", "You Light Up My Life" and "Telephone Man". Did we hear several of those stations playing exactly the same song at exactly the same time? Uh.....yep. And did we bitch? Uh....nope. Cause we knew that as soon as they finished playing that tune, they'd get on something we liked, and we dug the Jocks. I think you wouldn't cry so loud, if the song that you were hearing on both stations was a personal favorite. The point is that whether we like it or not, music on the radio is tested, tested and tested again. It's what the majority of our listeners want to hear, and they really don't care where or how often they hear it. Just for an example, if I were to sign on an Oldies station, I'd play the daylights out of "Oh, Pretty Woman", "Brown-eyed Girl", and "Unchained Melody" among others just because I know that my audience loves those tunes and I want to garner the largest group of them as I can, and i really don't care what "Music or Radio Heads" think. If I wanna win, I'm gonna play hits and I sure don't want my audience going over to the competition because they're playing them and I'm not. That's not a new way of thinking either. It's just good sense. Can I get a witness?!?!?! BTW, if you really hate it, there are so many other music delivery systems now available, that you truly have nobody to blame but yourself for your frustration. Sorry, but you know it's true.
Thanks for listening!

Oh and the commercials thing, that has to do with playing the Arbitron game, but that's another story for another time. And the People Meter will change all that one of these days anyway. So, just be patient. K?
 
Colonel, remember back in the 70s a song by Mary Mc Gregor, "Torn Between two Lovers?" I remember it was 3:36 in length. Sometime after 2AM while on KNUZ, I put the song one and went to the coffee bar to get some coffee. As I was preparing my coffee with the usual additives, I could hear the song on the monitor. Plenty of time left, I took my time and went back to KNUZ control. When I pushed that door open, the studio was dead silent. I rushed around the console to discover the cart had ended about 30 seconds before. What the hell happened, as I cursed myself for taking too long? How did I mistime this? That just wasn't me.

What I didn't know was during the day before, Dave Morris, GM, ordered the station monitor to be put on KQUE. The guy on KQUE played the same song about 30 to 40 seconds after I started the song on KNUZ. Pure coincidence. KNUZ was all carts back then, as were many of the stations.

You're right about those songs. If I was doing it, I would do the same, although I would increase the playlist and rotate the big hits faster and the top twenty and thirty at different rates. Lets you and me get together and put something together on Houston radio, which should include a pronunciation guide of Hosuton streets. I hear so many mis-pronunciations, I could just yell. There's one cat in town who pronounces "Toyota," as TOE-O-TA.
 
Chuck,

Is he still saying Toyota wrong? I talked to him about it. Let me know.

Kevinc
 
ColonelStJames said:
Jeez Louise!!! Bitch! Bitch! Bitch!

What did you do when KILT, KNUZ, KULF, KXYZ, and KRBE were all Top Forty stations? And they were ALL playing "Music Box Dancer", "You Light Up My Life" and "Telephone Man". Did we hear several of those stations playing exactly the same song at exactly the same time? Uh.....yep. And did we bitch? Uh....nope. Cause we knew that as soon as they finished playing that tune, they'd get on something we liked, and we dug the Jocks. I think you wouldn't cry so loud, if the song that you were hearing on both stations was a personal favorite. The point is that whether we like it or not, music on the radio is tested, tested and tested again. It's what the majority of our listeners want to hear, and they really don't care where or how often they hear it. Just for an example, if I were to sign on an Oldies station, I'd play the daylights out of "Oh, Pretty Woman", "Brown-eyed Girl", and "Unchained Melody" among others just because I know that my audience loves those tunes and I want to garner the largest group of them as I can, and i really don't care what "Music or Radio Heads" think. If I wanna win, I'm gonna play hits and I sure don't want my audience going over to the competition because they're playing them and I'm not. That's not a new way of thinking either. It's just good sense. Can I get a witness?!?!?! BTW, if you really hate it, there are so many other music delivery systems now available, that you truly have nobody to blame but yourself for your frustration. Sorry, but you know it's true.
Thanks for listening!

Oh and the commercials thing, that has to do with playing the Arbitron game, but that's another story for another time. And the People Meter will change all that one of these days anyway. So, just be patient. K?
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It's time to promote that Colonel to General! ;) When I started in Radio, we worked off a "Hot-Clock". It basically told you what kind of song, and when to play it. Your most popular currents were your "A's", Up and Coming Hot Songs were "B's", New Music were "C's", then you also had "AA's" which were previous A's, "R's" that were Recurrents, and "G's" for Golds. And, we had three Stop Sets (Breaks) an hour... :19-:22 past the hour, :33-:38 past the hour, and :49-:54 past the hour. The Hot Clock looked like an actual clock and it had one of those letters in each position, and then we had all the songs on Index cards, and you'd choose the next index card and then put it in the back of that index card box. We had some flexibility on it, as long as you didn't go nuts. It's not surprising that most of the positions on the Hot Clock were A's or Previous A's. For Classic Rock or Oldies, it works the same way, except your most popular Golds or Most Requested Music is going to get played over and over again. And, I'm sure the Colonel can attest, these songs that most of us are tired of hearing on the radio (i.e.-"Hotel California"), you tend to get lots of requests for. And, a lot of times, right after you played it. Sure I would love to hear Emerson Lake & Palmer and other deeper artist all the time on KKRW, but their ratings and revenue would disappear.

The Stop-Sets are designed to hit at those times, because of ratings. It's a long boring story. But yes, most stations hit breaks around those times. Some stations have more stop sets an hour, some have less.

"Playing Favorites" is the M.O. for most radio stations and it is not going to change.
 
You know. You're absolutely right. I stand corrected, and I used to work there! DOH!! Thanks for reminding me. This town sure used to have a lot of Top 40 stations, huh?
 
Colonel, I emailed you yesterday. I guess you could be raised in rank, since General Gene Austin left KILT in the mid 1990s.
 
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