94.5 KSoul

[bucwhyl]

I was reading about Radio One's urban ac in D.C. firing their staff and relaunching as an updated urban ac that caters more to their target audience. In addition to the r&b, they will also be putting music by artists like L.L. Cool J and Heavy D. into rotation.

Looking at 94.5's recent numbers, what are the chances of Radio One doing the same here?

Thoughts?

 

[charles123]

I was reading about Radio One's urban ac in D.C. firing their staff and relaunching as an updated urban ac that caters more to their target audience. In addition to the r&b, they will also be putting music by artists like L.L. Cool J and Heavy D. into rotation.

Looking at 94.5's recent numbers, what are the chances of Radio One doing the same here?

Thoughts?

That'll be nice, if they did something to their signal.

 

[Bob E. Nelson]

...if they did something to their signal.

It's as good as it will ever get due to short spacing to Cedar Hill's 94.1 and 94.9. Actually, KSOC's signal is among the very best. It's got a big contour and covers a huge area. The problem, of course, is that 94.5 is just too far north from the center of population. OTOH, if the Metroplex continues to march along relentlessly toward the Red River, those northern rimshots will be well positioned in the decades ahead. Exurbs like Frisco, Celina and Prosper get a really hot signal from KSOC.

One thing that I don't understand (and maybe one of the engineers can explain it) is why ATSC (DTV) works fine with co-channels as long as they're closely located. That's why the D/FW RF lineup can have channels 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44 [soon], 45, 46, 47, and 48. They all transmit in near physical proximity to each other.

Would such a thing even be possible with FM, allowing 0.4 MHz adjacents to transmit from a near common site? If so, a station like KSOC could then move to Cedar Hill, possibly reducing power if needed to protect co-channel conflicts. Of course, FM tuners and ATSC tuners are very different in how they handle adjacent interference so this idea is probably not even viable in the real world.

 

[salemjedi54]

I was reading about Radio One's urban ac in D.C. firing their staff and relaunching as an updated urban ac that caters more to their target audience. In addition to the r&b, they will also be putting music by artists like L.L. Cool J and Heavy D. into rotation.

Looking at 94.5's recent numbers, what are the chances of Radio One doing the same here?

Thoughts?

It might work. I know there are plenty of 38-42 year old black folk who like todays music. Classic hip hop hits mixed in 2-3 times an hour could be the trick. The problem is as always.....can it be sold.

 

[jeffdfw]

Has anyone seen the numbers that The Wave in LA is pulling in since they retooled their playlist. Could this work on 94.5 or should CBS flip The Fan or Mega to this?

1.Michael Buble – “Haven’t Met You Yet”
2.Sade – “Soldier Of Love”
3.Usher – “Making Love (Into The Night)”
4.Sade – “Babyfather”
5.Leona Lewis – “Better In Time”
6.Fergie – “Big Girls Don’t Cry”
7.Jason Mraz featuring Colbie Caillat – “Lucky”
8.Kenny G featuring Robin Thicke – “Fall Again”
9.Norah Jones – “Chasing Pirates”
10.Mary J. Blige – “I Am”
11.Colbie Caillat – “Bubbly”
12.Spencer Day – “Till You Come To Me”
13.Janet Jackson – “Nothing”
14.Dan Hartman – “I Can Dream About You”
15.Al Green – “I’m Still In Love With You”
16.Al Green – “Let’s Stay Together”
17.Bruce Hornsby – “The Way It Is”
18.John Mayer – “Daughters”
19.Marvin Gaye – “Mercy Mercy Me”
20.Jermaine Jackson – “Do What You Do”
21.Michael Jackson – “Human Nature”
22.Daniel Powter – “Bad Day”
23.Steely Dan – “Peg”
24.Stevie Wonder – “My Cherie Amour”
25.Stevie Wonder – “Superstition”
26.George Benson – “Breezin’”
27.Eric Clapton – “Layla (Unplugged)”
28.Earth, Wind and Fire – “Fantasy”
29.Dave Koz – “All I See Is You”
30.Corinna Bailey Rae – “Trouble Sleeping”

 

[satradio]

^^^
Awesome playlist..and I can see how that would work in a true cosmopolitan city like L.A. I have a hard time believing a playlist that diverse could be sold here in DFW.

 

[salemjedi54]

Has anyone seen the numbers that The Wave in LA is pulling in since they retooled their playlist. Could this work on 94.5 or should CBS flip The Fan or Mega to this?

1.Michael Buble – “Haven’t Met You Yet”
2.Sade – “Soldier Of Love”
3.Usher – “Making Love (Into The Night)”
4.Sade – “Babyfather”
5.Leona Lewis – “Better In Time”
6.Fergie – “Big Girls Don’t Cry”
7.Jason Mraz featuring Colbie Caillat – “Lucky”
8.Kenny G featuring Robin Thicke – “Fall Again”
9.Norah Jones – “Chasing Pirates”
10.Mary J. Blige – “I Am”
11.Colbie Caillat – “Bubbly”
12.Spencer Day – “Till You Come To Me”
13.Janet Jackson – “Nothing”
14.Dan Hartman – “I Can Dream About You”
15.Al Green – “I’m Still In Love With You”
16.Al Green – “Let’s Stay Together”
17.Bruce Hornsby – “The Way It Is”
18.John Mayer – “Daughters”
19.Marvin Gaye – “Mercy Mercy Me”
20.Jermaine Jackson – “Do What You Do”
21.Michael Jackson – “Human Nature”
22.Daniel Powter – “Bad Day”
23.Steely Dan – “Peg”
24.Stevie Wonder – “My Cherie Amour”
25.Stevie Wonder – “Superstition”
26.George Benson – “Breezin’”
27.Eric Clapton – “Layla (Unplugged)”
28.Earth, Wind and Fire – “Fantasy”
29.Dave Koz – “All I See Is You”
30.Corinna Bailey Rae – “Trouble Sleeping”

Almost looks like the Oasis was before it was put out of its misery. I think that sat radio is right. It just would not fit here.

 

[bucwhyl]

I think Radio One have done this in Philadelphia and Charlotte. I don't know how these stations are doing ratings-wise. They have renamed WMMJ "My Majic 102.3".

 

[MikeShannon914]

Sheesh, add in 50% crossover country hits to that playlist and you've got KVIL. It'd strip a lot (if not all) of KVIL's audience away, should it be tried here...so don't count on it seeing the light of day in DFW.

And for God's sake, leave K-Sock alone!!! Those black 38~ somethings who like today's music are just another part of those disenfranchised older/getting-older black listeners who are given NOTHING on the dial to listen to. K-Sock at least appeases some of them in its current state. Until someone with the g*nads to program a real Contemporary Black Gospel format or a smooth jazz/soft R&B classics fusion format comes along, those listeners will still have nowhere to go. And, just for fun, how about a modern classic CHRban station? 80s and 90s hits, R&B/pop crossover, limited rap, decent energy level, etc.

As I've said on here for 10 years now, there's gaping holes out there for black programming...so why has no one even tried anything innovative since 100.3 Jamz? Does the industry just choose to ignore black listenership, especially after you hit 30?

 

[w9wi]

It's as good as it will ever get due to short spacing to Cedar Hill's 94.1 and 94.9. Actually, KSOC's signal is among the very best. It's got a big contour and covers a huge area. The problem, of course, is that 94.5 is just too far north from the center of population. OTOH, if the Metroplex continues to march along relentlessly toward the Red River, those northern rimshots will be well positioned in the decades ahead. Exurbs like Frisco, Celina and Prosper get a really hot signal from KSOC.

One thing that I don't understand (and maybe one of the engineers can explain it) is why ATSC (DTV) works fine with co-channels as long as they're closely located. That's why the D/FW RF lineup can have channels 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44 [soon], 45, 46, 47, and 48. They all transmit in near physical proximity to each other.

Would such a thing even be possible with FM, allowing 0.4 MHz adjacents to transmit from a near common site? If so, a station like KSOC could then move to Cedar Hill, possibly reducing power if needed to protect co-channel conflicts. Of course, FM tuners and ATSC tuners are very different in how they handle adjacent interference so this idea is probably not even viable in the real world.

I suppose the problem is that there are some REALLY CHEAP FM radios out there that really couldn't handle this.

On a typical car radio, 400KHz second-adjacents really aren't a problem. On a typical "personal stereo"/boom box/etc.., they're a problem.

 

[jd]

On a typical car radio, 400KHz second-adjacents really aren't a problem. On a typical "personal stereo"/boom box/etc.., they're a problem.

I agree. To botch the old phrase, "the problem is with your radio." One of these days, it'll all be digital signals, but in the meantime we need to see some changes. All those cheap radios aren't going way anytime soon, but I still think it's past time to make some radical adjustments to the mileage and adjacent frequency rules. The same FCC separation rules have basically been in effect for decades, and roughly 65 mile separation between two full facility stations 400kHz apart just isn't realistic anymore. Even worse is having the same limits for such stations 600kHz apart. That's ridiculous.

 

[salemjedi54]

Sheesh, add in 50% crossover country hits to that playlist and you've got KVIL. It'd strip a lot (if not all) of KVIL's audience away, should it be tried here...so don't count on it seeing the light of day in DFW.

And for God's sake, leave K-Sock alone!!! Those black 38~ somethings who like today's music are just another part of those disenfranchised older/getting-older black listeners who are given NOTHING on the dial to listen to. K-Sock at least appeases some of them in its current state. Until someone with the g*nads to program a real Contemporary Black Gospel format or a smooth jazz/soft R&B classics fusion format comes along, those listeners will still have nowhere to go. And, just for fun, how about a modern classic CHRban station? 80s and 90s hits, R&B/pop crossover, limited rap, decent energy level, etc.

As I've said on here for 10 years now, there's gaping holes out there for black programming...so why has no one even tried anything innovative since 100.3 Jamz? Does the industry just choose to ignore black listenership, especially after you hit 30?

KKDA would be way better than what KSOC is doing. To answer your question Mike yes black folks get ignored to a certain extent. You CHRurban station would be better as a Classic hip hop hits station. Most of the folk 35-45 would love that station.

 

[charles123]

I was reading about Radio One's urban ac in D.C. firing their staff and relaunching as an updated urban ac that caters more to their target audience. In addition to the r&b, they will also be putting music by artists like L.L. Cool J and Heavy D. into rotation.

Looking at 94.5's recent numbers, what are the chances of Radio One doing the same here?

Thoughts?

This could work on 97.9 The Beat.

 

[bucwhyl]

Just read yesterday that right before the changes were made in DC, WMMJ finally had beaten it's competition, WHUR in the last PPM.

 

[salemjedi54]

Just confirmed on All Access...Lynne Haze and Rudy V are gone.

 

[kilamanjero]

Just confirmed on All Access...Lynne Haze and Rudy V are gone.

Well, we see Radio One seems to be making these "changes" company-wide...

 

[oldmanradio]

Just confirmed on All Access...Lynne Haze and Rudy V are gone.

Alert the media.

 

[bucwhyl]

With that horrible PD that they have over there, I doubt if anything else will happen. Just 3 folks have lost their jobs for no good reason and no significant improvements will come out of this.