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94.7 continous hits station

K

klinker

First sorry for the spelling.

I was in the South Burligton VT area for 6 days over the Labor Day holiday. Every time I put seek my radio stopped on 94.7 it was a chr/rym station compared to chr/pop. That station sounded alot different from wxxx and 92.1 kiss fm. I don't understand how 92.1 says they cover Burlington when I get to colchester and station sounds like it's 200 miles away and I only moved 10 miles. The radio stations up there sound alot different than the Springfield MA area. One other thing is that the signal pattern ends at bolton with most of the stations in Burlington. Is there any talk of possible stations putting repeater stations like they do in MA and CT to bring stations from that area further south and east like for instance Kool 105 or 96.7?

Thanks for all answers ahead of time. And for the Burlington area readers you landscape is one of the most interesting ones I've come across in many years.

Sincerely,

Jonathan Klinkowski
 
> First sorry for the spelling.
>
> I was in the South Burligton VT area for 6 days over the
> Labor Day holiday. Every time I put seek my radio stopped
> on 94.7 it was a chr/rym station compared to chr/pop. That
> station sounded alot different from wxxx and 92.1 kiss fm.
> I don't understand how 92.1 says they cover Burlington when
> I get to colchester and station sounds like it's 200 miles
> away and I only moved 10 miles. The radio stations up there
> sound alot different than the Springfield MA area. One
> other thing is that the signal pattern ends at bolton with
> most of the stations in Burlington. Is there any talk of
> possible stations putting repeater stations like they do in
> MA and CT to bring stations from that area further south and
> east like for instance Kool 105 or 96.7?
>
> Thanks for all answers ahead of time. And for the
> Burlington area readers you landscape is one of the most
> interesting ones I've come across in many years.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Jonathan Klinkowski
>
That radio station is in Chateguay NY, somewhat west of Plattsburgh NY, and is trying to be a Montreal station.
 
94-7 Hits FM: Malone-Massena-Montreal

Yes, what you're hearing is 94.7 Hits FM out of Chateguay NY (near Malone NY). They target the "West Island" of Montreal. They stream on-line and are an absolute abomination.

The station is owned by Tim Martz. He's the San Francisco gentleman that owns a bunch of "border stations"--stations along the US/Canadian border that are based in NY but are targeted towards Canadian markets. He sells time to Canadians and buys the BBM book (Canadian's Arbitron) in Ottawa, Cornwall & Montreal. Since his stations are based in the States, he has no legal obligations to play a lot of CanCon.

Thing is...his signals are too far away from either Ottawa or Montreal to really make an impact. He gets some listeners on Montreal's "West Island." But the ratings are poor, at best. The signal is very sketchy throughout the Montreal market. It's practically non-existant. Couple that with the fact that the stations are poorly programmed (VERY poorly programmed) and you have yourself a station that has a very slim chance of truly competing with Mix 96--with or without CanCon.

Tim Martz seems like a very bright fellow. But the two novices that run his operations in Massena & Malone NY have Small Market written all over them. If Martz really wants to compete with Q92, Mix 96, CKMF and/or CKOI...he's really going to have to invest some money in that operation. (Hint: fire Mike Boldt, the clueless, overpaid megalomaniac that runs things there)

Martz should really take a page out of the 95 Triple X handbook:
THAT is how a small market CHR/Mainstream should be programmed. Pay for some major market caliber talent, invest some time & money and you'll still be around 20 years later like WXXX. And be able to rake in some dough along the way.
Until then, you'll just be a small-time player with lots of expensive toys that you don't know how to work.

And before you ask the inevitable...yes I did and yes I am.
 
Re: 94-7 Hits FM: Malone-Massena-Montreal

> The signal is very sketchy throughout the Montreal
> market. It's practically non-existant.

Thats an excellent way to put it.
When I drove around Montreal a couple years ago,
I couldn't get 94.7 worth a damn. (In fact I was picking up
OTHER stations on 94.7).
It seems 94.7 seems to die about 10 miles up I87 from the NY Border.

(FWIW, WXXX didn't come in very well either, for a B1, it's too bad they can't do anything to improve the signal...)
 
Re: 94-7 Hits FM: Malone-Massena-Montreal

Is 94.7 shortspaced or otherwise technically tied to its current tower site? Or are these people so dumb that they don't realize how much they'd gain in Montreal signal strength by moving the SOB up north of Cooks Mill--i.e., on the border? Fifteen miles would make a huge difference. Obviously they need a Class C to pull off the stunt in spades, but if they're going to go to this much trouble anyway...


> > The signal is very sketchy throughout the Montreal
> > market. It's practically non-existant.
>
> Thats an excellent way to put it.
> When I drove around Montreal a couple years ago,
> I couldn't get 94.7 worth a damn. (In fact I was picking up
> OTHER stations on 94.7).
> It seems 94.7 seems to die about 10 miles up I87 from the NY
> Border.
>
> (FWIW, WXXX didn't come in very well either, for a B1, it's
> too bad they can't do anything to improve the signal...)
>
 
Re: 94-7 Hits FM: Malone-Massena-Montreal

> Is 94.7 shortspaced or otherwise technically tied to its
> current tower site? Or are these people so dumb that they
> don't realize how much they'd gain in Montreal signal
> strength by moving the SOB up north of Cooks Mill--i.e., on
> the border? Fifteen miles would make a huge difference.
> Obviously they need a Class C to pull off the stunt in
> spades, but if they're going to go to this much trouble
> anyway...
>
Yes, basically they are protecting Canada. (Without really looking into it more, I don't have my spacing programs open). I know their antenna pattern is is nulled to the North-Northwest and strongest to the Southeast.

So a class C station would be out of the question for them as well.

EDIT: I need to look into this further. Something here isnt making sense to me.
 
Re: 94-7 Hits FM: Malone-Massena-Montreal

> Just moving there tower to the actual col would help! Chateaugay is practiclly on the border and is north and east of the current location...closer to Montreal!

Is 94.7 shortspaced or otherwise technically tied to its
> current tower site? Or are these people so dumb that they
> don't realize how much they'd gain in Montreal signal
> strength by moving the SOB up north of Cooks Mill--i.e., on
> the border? Fifteen miles would make a huge difference.
> Obviously they need a Class C to pull off the stunt in
> spades, but if they're going to go to this much trouble
> anyway...
>
>
> > > The signal is very sketchy throughout the Montreal
> > > market. It's practically non-existant.
> >
> > Thats an excellent way to put it.
> > When I drove around Montreal a couple years ago,
> > I couldn't get 94.7 worth a damn. (In fact I was picking
> up
> > OTHER stations on 94.7).
> > It seems 94.7 seems to die about 10 miles up I87 from the
> NY
> > Border.
> >
> > (FWIW, WXXX didn't come in very well either, for a B1,
> it's
> > too bad they can't do anything to improve the signal...)
> >
>
 
Re: 94-7 Hits FM: Malone-Massena-Montreal

> Yes, basically they are protecting Canada. (Without really
> looking into it more, I don't have my spacing programs
> open). I know their antenna pattern is is nulled to the
> North-Northwest and strongest to the Southeast.

I believe the protection they have to give is to 94.7 Trois-Rivieres QC; there may also be some to 94.9 Hull, but I'm not certain on that.

What I do know is that the Mont-Royal transmitter site in Montreal throws off a tremendous amount of intermod hash and creates front-end overload in most of the city, so the stations that aren't on that site (or downtown, like superpower CKOI 96.9) might as well not exist in most of the Montreal market.

The advent of CBF on 95.1 didn't help matters any, either...<P ID="signature">______________
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Re: 94-7 Hits FM: Malone-Massena-Montreal

(Hint:
> fire Mike Boldt, the clueless, overpaid megalomaniac that
> runs things there)

How long has he been there? I have an anecdote in regard to 94.7 Hits FM:

At the station I used to work for, the on-air PD/my boss (who has been at said station for many years) got a call from somebody at WYUL. The caller offered my boss their open PM drive gig.

My boss, looking to create mischief, told him that his PD was Dave Shakes (instead of admitting that he himself was PD). The caller bought it hook, line, and sinker. I don't remember where the call went from there, but I found it hilarious that the competing PD couldn't ID who was in charge at a competing station in the Burlington-Plattsburgh metro.<P ID="signature">______________
"Is Wayne Brady gonna have to choke a bitch?"</P>
 
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