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94.7 is changing formats today

It was just announced on-air that Country music will continue on WNSH HD2.
Small consolation, but better than nothing.
But are the live hosts still going to have some kind of presence on the hd signal as is with channel q which is only on hd radio has live hosts or are all the wnsh country shows cancelled?
 
It's time people there experience music that they aren't familiar with culture that they aren't familiar with. Analysis: Country music's race issue is no surprise. Because who created this country and designed it for them? Rich white men. As a white male myself I would know. It's called privilege. I am not happy to have it. I'd rather let other groups whose voices are not heard be heard.

Something that article misses is the reason we have country and R&B actually dates back to the late 20’s/early 30’s. Record labels had a problem with marketing in the South. Many record stores wouldn't market to Black people, and those that did were segregated with a separate, usually smaller, area for Black people. Some record stores also tended not to want to carry Black artists at all, and some white people didn't want to buy records by Black artists. At the time, the race of the artist wasn’t always something you could tell just by listening, and both groups' music came from similar roots. So, they solved their business problem by creating two separate genres based on the ethnicities of the artists. I suspect record executives from 100 years ago would be surprised both by how the two styles have diverged and that we’re still largely using the same system today. While there have been efforts to both include African Americans in country music and white people in urban, both genres have changed very little.
 
94.7 was a mess. It was poorly done. Maybe if IHM did it maybe they could do better.
I like how you say this but give no explanation to your inflammatory claim. Maybe in your opinion it was poorly done but that doesn't reflect the people that worked at that stations opinions or loyal listeners.
 
I like how you say this but give no explanation to your inflammatory claim. Maybe in your opinion it was poorly done but that doesn't reflect the people that worked at that stations opinions or loyal listeners.
They would constantly glitch out as Nash. They were way out of touch with the NYC area.
 
They would constantly glitch out as Nash. They were way out of touch with the NYC area.
How exactly were they out of touch with the new york area. The listeners I heard on the send off seemed to think they related very well with the New York audience. And glitch out ? That seems like a pretty broad term and statement. It seems like you are looking for reasons to complain and put down a good station with hosts that had a passion for radio. New York Doesn't need another rap station. Audacy inc. doesn't seem to value country music or country music listeners, Id also add.
 
Country radio has always had trouble billing in New York. It's not a popular format here.

WYNY 103.5 also billed a lot more than 94.7. If previous posts about 94.7 billing roughly $100,000/month are true, I seem to remember WYNY was doing roughly as much in a month as 94.7 did all of last year, and that was before being adjusted for inflation. Granted, that was before a worldwide pandemic and two major recessions, but I can’t imagine anyone with a New York area license wanting to do a format that was only billing a million to $1.5 million a year.

Again, this was 15 or so years ago, but I worked at a station in market #252 that billed about $1.2 million a year. I don’t think it bills anywhere near that today, but, even in these times, you should be able to bill well above that annually just by having an FM license in New York.
 
But are the live hosts still going to have some kind of presence on the hd signal as is with channel q which is only on hd radio has live hosts or are all the wnsh country shows cancelled?
Channel Q is an entirely separate and unique thing. Live hosts on a run of the mill country format relegated to an HD 2 they dropped because it doesn’t bring in the money to be successful? Let’s think about that.
 
What about in new jersey where the station also could be picked up? There is a lot of rural country type areas in new jersey but more so in southern new jersey.
You have misquoted me, but I acknowledge that the country music format has struggled to make it in New York City for many years. In fact, I remember when New York City had two country music radio stations during the early 1980s: WKHK on the FM dial and the more established WHN on the AM dial. WKHK failed to compete with WHN, and in 1984, WKHK became an MOR station with the call sign WLTW. Since then, NYC has not been able to support more than one country music station.

I also acknowledge that listeners in the suburbs have been more receptive toward country music than whose who live in the five boroughs.
 
Channel Q is an entirely separate and unique thing. Live hosts on a run of the mill country format relegated to an HD 2 they dropped because it doesn’t bring in the money to be successful? Let’s think about that.
So its gonna be all just a computer playing music and automated voices? I don't see that as progress even for an hd only signal.
 
So its gonna be all just a computer playing music and automated voices? I don't see that as progress even for an hd only signal.
Who's looking for progress here? Certainly not Audacy. This is a sop to the disappointed country music fans of the NYC metro, of whom there just weren't enough to make it worth ad agencies' while to make WNSH part of their clients' advertising strategy. Audacy, by pulling country off the main signal, is kissing country music goodbye as a viable commercial format in NYC. A jukebox in a closet is a way of giving the country audience its music without spending any significant amount to do so. If Audacy thought it could make money on an HD2 signal, it would choose any format BUT country. At least with an automated, personality-less, all-music robot on HD2, Audacy keeps some of WNSH's old listeners from jumping to a main signal owned by some other company playing classic rock, AC or whatever country fans' second-choice genre is.
 
How exactly were they out of touch with the new york area. The listeners I heard on the send off seemed to think they related very well with the New York audience. And glitch out ? That seems like a pretty broad term and statement. It seems like you are looking for reasons to complain and put down a good station with hosts that had a passion for radio. New York Doesn't need another rap station. Audacy inc. doesn't seem to value country music or country music listeners, Id also add.
Many times they had dead air. They had adds for bullet hole for a gun shop in Belleville, NJ like what New Yorker is shooting guns? None I know of.
 
Many times they had dead air. They had adds for bullet hole for a gun shop in Belleville, NJ like what New Yorker is shooting guns? None I know of.
Whel they broadcasted from new york their studios in midtown Manhattan. Most of the hosts were from nyc so just because the station places what I'm assuming was a promotion ad at a new jersey store where their station had coverage means the whole station doesn't relate to new yorkers? This isn't a valid argument.
 
Who's looking for progress here? Certainly not Audacy. This is a sop to the disappointed country music fans of the NYC metro, of whom there just weren't enough to make it worth ad agencies' while to make WNSH part of their clients' advertising strategy. Audacy, by pulling country off the main signal, is kissing country music goodbye as a viable commercial format in NYC. A jukebox in a closet is a way of giving the country audience its music without spending any significant amount to do so. If Audacy thought it could make money on an HD2 signal, it would choose any format BUT country. At least with an automated, personality-less, all-music robot on HD2, Audacy keeps some of WNSH's old listeners from jumping to a main signal owned by some other company playing classic rock, AC or whatever country fans' second-choice genre is.
But most of the listeners wont even be able to pick it up because most people don't have hd radios unless they have newer model vehicles.
 
How exactly were they out of touch with the new york area. The listeners I heard on the send off seemed to think they related very well with the New York audience. And glitch out ? That seems like a pretty broad term and statement. It seems like you are looking for reasons to complain and put down a good station with hosts that had a passion for radio. New York Doesn't need another rap station. Audacy inc. doesn't seem to value country music or country music listeners, Id also add.
Audacy values money like any other business and they were not making any with a country format hence the change. Nothing to do with not valuing listeners or not
 
Whel they broadcasted from new york their studios in midtown Manhattan. Most of the hosts were from nyc so just because the station places what I'm assuming was a promotion ad at a new jersey store where their station had coverage means the whole station doesn't relate to new yorkers? This isn't a valid argument.

I agree with you on this. You learn in Marketing 101 that you always segment the market. By going with country, you’re segmenting out most of the city of New York and going after suburbanites. Airing ads aimed at suburban and exurban New Jersey makes sense and targets the people who are listening.
 
Audacy values money like any other business and they were not making any with a country format hence the change. Nothing to do with not valuing listeners or not
It would seem that audacy had enough profit netted yearly to not have to worry about the money they may have been losing with wnsh they were selling ads consistently for nash fm were they not? If they would of stuck with the format and station for a few more years I think it would have payed off in the long term. And what makes audacy so sure this throwback format is gonna do any better? They had an exclusive premium on country in nyc before now they have a format where they have to compete with a whole slew of stations with a similar format they will probably be losing more money with their new bright idea.
 
Whel they broadcasted from new york their studios in midtown Manhattan. Most of the hosts were from nyc so just because the station places what I'm assuming was a promotion ad at a new jersey store where their station had coverage means the whole station doesn't relate to new yorkers? This isn't a valid argument.
What hosts were from NYC other than that one constantly saying she was from Queens? Most of them were from other parts of the country
 
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