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Humility, awe, and inspiration are just some of the words missing from this post of 80 pages and the rest of the many threads just on this change, alone.
There is a sort of genius at work, here.
Explains why we are reading about this from all over and not participating in it.
You younger guys and gals should take notes so you will be in the fishbowl looking out the next time.
Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
There is a sort of genius at work, here.
Explains why we are reading about this from all over and not participating in it.
You younger guys and gals should take notes so you will be in the fishbowl looking out the next time.
Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
No way it will be Rock because the the silence around this"new format" is amazing. I am 99 percent certain it is country but if its not that it will be such a huge surprise that people will be amazed. It will not be modern or alternative rock.
I don't like to predict...but some observations..don't expect the format to be spoken word, Sports or Talk (WABCsimulcast)...why kick-off a format in the middle of a talk segment? (9:47am)...and everything I've seen indicates CBS Sports is destined for 660 AM eventually.
The biggest shares up for grabs...AC WLTW, WWFS, even WCBS-FM and WPLJ.
Can't imagine Cumulus doing a format that would eat in WPLJ's woman numbers...
of the four WLTW has most to lose...country (classic country won't cut it) targeting 35-54 would impact them most...very little impact on WCBS-FM...and 35-54 would leave door open for WPLJ and the 18-49s.
Rock would pull men, but the battle for ratings would expand to the sports&news stations... but PLJ would remain safe to attract women...
If I were betting man, I'd say country...but I'm not a betting man...
We'll know soon enough.
The biggest shares up for grabs...AC WLTW, WWFS, even WCBS-FM and WPLJ.
Can't imagine Cumulus doing a format that would eat in WPLJ's woman numbers...
of the four WLTW has most to lose...country (classic country won't cut it) targeting 35-54 would impact them most...very little impact on WCBS-FM...and 35-54 would leave door open for WPLJ and the 18-49s.
Rock would pull men, but the battle for ratings would expand to the sports&news stations... but PLJ would remain safe to attract women...
If I were betting man, I'd say country...but I'm not a betting man...
We'll know soon enough.
papaul said:
Funny you say that! ;D Based on all of the prognostications on here, I've put this up on my FB wall. Place your bets!!! LOL
Country 1:5
Alternative Rock 2:1
Sports 5:1
Talk 10:1
Classic Rock 15:1
Dance/EDM 25:1
Urban 50:1
Lite 75:1
Spanish 100:1
Smooth Jazz 150:1
CHR 5000:1
News 1,000,000:1
Way.
Only because that's the frequency. They can start a new segment after spending 13 minutes talking about the "great new format." After which, it won't matter that they started at an "odd" time. (WNBC became WFAN at 5:30, not at the top of an hour.)
But you're right that it won't be spoken word. You don't spend a week adjusting the equipment to make the music sound better, and then do a non-music format.
Would it be a lot? Or more to the point: how much did they gain after the loss of previous country stations? Was it noticeable? They might eat into WPLJ, but they'd eat into other stations too.
If there were really that much to lose, they would have simply made WPLJ country on the premise that they'd keep most of what they have, AND gain from other stations.
The 94.7 signal is stronger in Brooklyn than it is at the Jersey shore. Not only can you see all of Brooklyn from the West Orange transmitter site, it is closer.
You also have to remember that the transmitter power is just under 24-kw, as opposed to 6-kw for the ESB stations and the signals are line-of-sight in both cases. The center of Brooklyn is 8-miles from the ESB, and 18-miles from West Orange, but with four times the transmitter power.
NJMark said:
Way.
Only because that's the frequency. They can start a new segment after spending 13 minutes talking about the "great new format." After which, it won't matter that they started at an "odd" time. (WNBC became WFAN at 5:30, not at the top of an hour.)
But you're right that it won't be spoken word. You don't spend a week adjusting the equipment to make the music sound better, and then do a non-music format.
Would it be a lot? Or more to the point: how much did they gain after the loss of previous country stations? Was it noticeable? They might eat into WPLJ, but they'd eat into other stations too.
If there were really that much to lose, they would have simply made WPLJ country on the premise that they'd keep most of what they have, AND gain from other stations.
I will either cry or jump for joy tomorrow. Alt rock is my preference. No offence but I like most everything but country.
The "pea-shooter" was a different story, in a different time with different antennas. Even the Empire stations didn't have as good of a signal back then from the Alford antenna.
I've driven the 94.7 signal in Brooklyn and it comes in like a ton of bricks there. Most of Queens as well. There's a bit of shadowing from Midtown Manhattan, but nowhere near as severe as some have stated on these boards. In most of Manhattan there is a decent signal as well. Midtown can get a bit dicey on a cheap radio, but how many people actually live in Midtown?
There is no such thing as "signal vector", as you put it. Maybe you're referring to the angle of radiation? Most antennas, except for a single bay (which is made up for by increased TPO) focus the signal within a few degrees of the horizon, as that's where 99% of your audience lives. I'm still not quite sure what you mean by the "different vectors" of 94.7 from any other station. Do you mean the angle of radiation because it's 12 miles away from Manhattan?
Z-100 is a different story. If 94.7 targets the suburbs with a format such as country, those parts of Queens aren't as relevant as they would otherwise be. Cumulus also owns 103.9, and could easily use that from it's CP location in the Bronx to fill in "behind the buildings" in Queens and northern Brooklyn.
I'm not trying to be a jerk here, it's just that I do this for a living and trying to understand your logic. It may not be a NYC signal, but it certainly is a NY MARKET signal.
NJMark said:
Way.
Only because that's the frequency. They can start a new segment after spending 13 minutes talking about the "great new format." After which, it won't matter that they started at an "odd" time. (WNBC became WFAN at 5:30, not at the top of an hour.)
But you're right that it won't be spoken word. You don't spend a week adjusting the equipment to make the music sound better, and then do a non-music format.
Would it be a lot? Or more to the point: how much did they gain after the loss of previous country stations? Was it noticeable? They might eat into WPLJ, but they'd eat into other stations too.
If there were really that much to lose, they would have simply made WPLJ country on the premise that they'd keep most of what they have, AND gain from other stations.
PLJ bills well. No way would they have made it country. Remember country is a hard sell on Madison Ave. A national brand may get around that issue but I still feel that it would be odd for Cumulus to take away from it's core fan base at PLJ to air country on another station. It's not like they're trying to protect a cluster. That's why I'm still not convinced. I may very well be wrong though. Lot's of smokescreens.
If you look at the PLJ page you can easily see their suburban soccer mom listener base screaming for country.
pjc1961 said:
I wouldn't rule that out: remember, two-thirds of CBS Sports Radio's morning show are Brandon Tierney (formerly with ESPN Radio/New York pre-98.7) and Tiki Barber (former New York Giant). They can host a special local show from 9:50 AM until 12 Noon for Monday only, then giving way to the rest of the CBSSR national lineup.
That's why I said "if" ... and put it in bold. My point was that they wouldn't lose anywhere near as much as some think.
If they are country fans, they may listen to WPLJ, but they are not their "base." (And I haven't checked to see the location or marital status of those posting, but childless women like country music too.)
Country is the one format that can be a very good compliment to WPLJ. Might it shave some listeners off from them? Absolutely. But how many might it take from stations like "Q-104.3", "Lite FM", "Fresh" and CBS FM? That's where Country makes alot of sense. So while maybe losing some listener's WPLJ still keeps them in the family, plus picks up in the long run.
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