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94.7 Updates

Element9 said:
Interesting that rather than loading up a hard drive with 600 songs (of any format and variety) and a slew of bumpers, driven by AudioVault (or any other automation program) and delivering the feed from the PD's office or transmitter, Cumulus chooses to simulcast WPLJ on 94.7.
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This is either accidental (easier, test studio audio chain, etc) or intentional (use it to announce and launch the new station). Either way it's been a 'dead' frequency for almost 50 years, unless you're a radio person, or hit your seek button a lot, you don't really know anything anyway.

Also if they intend on 'stunting' under RXP before launching a whole country thing, would they want to stunt the stunting?
 
Don't forget, the 94.7 coverage area has a lot of overlap with that of WDHA 105.5, and WDHA is already a well established rock station. While you could argue that DHA is "active rock" and RXP would be "alternative rock" (honestly, I don't know what the difference is), you'd still be pulling from the same small pool of rock listeners. So I don't know that the ratings of RXP would be as high as you might think.
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WDHA has a smaller coverage area that fits inside that of now 94.7 WRXP's. There is also a major difference between alternative and active rock, at least the varieties that are played by WDHA and the last incarnation of WRXP. Active rock is more guitar driven and targets a much more male-dominated audience, while alternative varies between it's guitar-driven, acoustic and electronic sounds, tends to draw a more affluent audience and tends to be more even between male and female listeners. Both stations could fit in the area.

Jacko
 
ansky212 said:
Jeffrey said:
My guess is 94.7 will go Alt rock, a format which would pull in more numbers than country and undoubtedly make more money but that's only speculation on my part.
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Don't forget, the 94.7 coverage area has a lot of overlap with that of WDHA 105.5, and WDHA is already a well established rock station. While you could argue that DHA is "active rock" and RXP would be "alternative rock" (honestly, I don't know what the difference is), you'd still be pulling from the same small pool of rock listeners. So I don't know that the ratings of RXP would be as high as you might think.
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This doesn't really hold up. First they are very different, it's like saying MMR and RFF in Philly pull the same pool, a little but not really, and both are quite different formats. At least 75% of DHA's music RXP would never touch and 50%+ is just classic rock. 94.7, may not be an Empire B, but is primarily a NY signal and still a B. DHA is really just an A out in Morristown. This has gotten discussed a lot around here already along with there being country in 94.7s contour too.
 
IF Cumulus is planning the new "Nash" country brand and they stated that 94.7 will be a "flagship" for "key content initiative" I would see the final format leaning towards country. In addition it could be why they wouldn't have need for the 106.3 signal (country) anymore as 94.7 will overlap it.
 
If there will actually be a Nash Country network (so far this seems to be pure speculation), it would seem to make more sense for Cumulus to use one of their country stations in Nashville TN as the flagship. It would be much easier to have country stars and country music industry people come in for interviews if a studio is based there, as many live near Music City or visit frequently. Though country music artists of course do perform and pass through the New York area, there is more activity in Nashville, or in some of the other places where Cumulus already operates country stations.
 
Barry said:
If there will actually be a Nash Country network (so far this seems to be pure speculation), it would seem to make more sense for Cumulus to use one of their country stations in Nashville TN as the flagship. It would be much easier to have country stars and country music industry people come in for interviews if a studio is based there, as many live near Music City or visit frequently. Though country music artists of course do perform and pass through the New York area, there is more activity in Nashville, or in some of the other places where Cumulus already operates country stations.
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Even if NY was the "flagship" for Nash FM, it doesn't mean they couldn't have a studio in Nashville to do interviews with the stars.
 
"Flagship" always seemed like more of a figure of speech related to bragging rights than something having any specific meaning. The "New York" station promotes itself as the flagship, and the show/network/syndicator brag about having a NY affiliate.
 
NJMark said:
"Flagship" always seemed like more of a figure of speech related to bragging rights than something having any specific meaning. The "New York" station promotes itself as the flagship, and the show/network/syndicator brag about having a NY affiliate.
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A "Flagship" is a Naval term to signify on which vessel the "Flag" or Command Officer of the Fleet is.

In these terms, it comes to loosely mean, where the program originates.

Clear Channel "Flagship" would be WOAI - and definitely is not in New York.

I take it as more of a "thank you" term from the host who has his syndicated on the station that took the risk on that host in the first place.

For example: Rush calls Sacramento his "Adopted Home Town"

Or a shorthand such as the way of my "sig"

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
xmusicmatt said:
If Cumulus really wanted to throw people for a loop they should have simulcasted (sic) WABC on WFME instead of PLJ.
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When the sale of WFME to Cumulus was first announced, some of the trades predicted that a WABC simulcast, or, at least, some kind of talk format, was what Cumulus had in mind.
 
Re: WFME Format Flip

This is already posted in the 94.7 Updates thread. Hopefully that's where the discussion will remain, we really don't need 2 or 3 different threads on this, do we?
 
The sale of WFME may well mark the demise of Family Radio. WFME was Family Radio's key station in the East. In its heyday, WFME showed up in the Arbitron ratings and contributions from WFME listeners accounted for a large chunk of Family Radio's revenue stream. It will be very difficult, if not impossible, to replicate WFME's coverage area with a rimshot Class A FM station in Mt. Kisco and whichever AM station might be available.

All of the AM stations that Family Radio might be able to buy in the New York area are directional. Two that might be, or actually are, for sale are WSNR in Hackensack (620 kHz) and WVNJ in Oakland (Teaneck). WSNR has extremely poor coverage. WVNJ has its transmitter in the Ramapo Mountains and beams its signal east. In New Jersey, it only has a listenable signal in Bergen, Passaic, and Hudson Counties. In New York City, the signal disappears in Brooklyn, Staten Island, and parts of Queens.

As stated earlier on this board, Harold Camping's heresies doomed Family Radio; to wit, his false doomsday prophecies and his teachings about the "post-church era". This kind of stuff alienated the evangelical Christians who were Family Radio's lifeblood. Many pastors used to contribute to the Family Radio ministry. But who among them would continue to give money to a false prophet who was telling people to stop going to church?

The worst thing about the sale of WFME is that the station went to Cumulus, an out of state company notorious for cookie cutter programming, rather than to local people who just might have used this station to serve their community. Whatever the "real" format on 94.7 will be, it will be something dictated by the corporate people in Atlanta.
 
xmusicmatt said:
If Cumulus really wanted to throw people for a loop they should have simulcasted WABC on WFME instead of PLJ.
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Maybe for haha's but not practicality. By using PLJ they can tweak their audio levels and settings for stereo and the MUSIC the new station will be playing.
 
ansky212 said:
Barry said:
If there will actually be a Nash Country network (so far this seems to be pure speculation), it would seem to make more sense for Cumulus to use one of their country stations in Nashville TN as the flagship. It would be much easier to have country stars and country music industry people come in for interviews if a studio is based there, as many live near Music City or visit frequently. Though country music artists of course do perform and pass through the New York area, there is more activity in Nashville, or in some of the other places where Cumulus already operates country stations.
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Even if NY was the "flagship" for Nash FM, it doesn't mean they couldn't have a studio in Nashville to do interviews with the stars.
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Does it really make sense that a flagship station of a brand new country network called "Nash FM" would debut in New York, a city where a country format is risky and that has Nash in it's name? That really makes no sense. 94.7 may go country but I think Nash fm seems highly unlikely.
 
ansky212 said:
Jeffrey said:
My guess is 94.7 will go Alt rock, a format which would pull in more numbers than country and undoubtedly make more money but that's only speculation on my part.
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Don't forget, the 94.7 coverage area has a lot of overlap with that of WDHA 105.5, and WDHA is already a well established rock station. While you could argue that DHA is "active rock" and RXP would be "alternative rock" (honestly, I don't know what the difference is), you'd still be pulling from the same small pool of rock listeners. So I don't know that the ratings of RXP would be as high as you might think.
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One could argue that 94.7 would overlap with 2 suburban country stations as well, Thunder 106.3 and My Country 96.1. These areas are where a country station on 94.7 would probably be targeting so in reality they're already served thus making for an even more risky endevour should Cumulus decide to make 94.7 country. Really at the end of the day, we're just speculating. I suppose each of us just wants are musical preference to be the chosen format. Unfortunately for me, I'm 100% guaranteed it won't be mine.
 
Jeffrey said:
Does it really make sense that a flagship station of a brand new country network called "Nash FM" would debut in New York, a city where a country format is risky and that has Nash in it's name? That really makes no sense. 94.7 may go country but I think Nash fm seems highly unlikely.
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The alleged "Nash FM" is supposed to be a national country network. They would want a NY affiliate to attract more advertising dollars. Since it's a national network, it wouldn't matter if the station was at the top of the ratings in this market.
 
Jeffrey said:
One could argue that 94.7 would overlap with 2 suburban country stations as well, Thunder 106.3 and My Country 96.1.
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Not really. My Country 96.1 is way out in Sussex county where the 94.7 signal would be very weak to non-existent. Thunder 106's signal doesn't reach much farther north than Middlesex county in NJ. So again, the overlap is on the fringe of this station as well. If you look at coverage maps of WDHA and WFME, the city-grade contours overlap almost exactly (DHA is skewed a bit further west).
 
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