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94.9 Tulsa

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i see that 94.9 have plans to move to 94.7, the signal is awful, so is the audio quality. it is constantly skipping, the programming is awful and the station is absolute garbage. i would much rather pick up 94.7 the brew in Tulsa rather than this awful mess. they are a complete waste of the FM band and i'm sure no one in Tulsa ever listens to it. sorry to offend you if you are a fan of catholic radio, but the programming is awful.
This place on the FM band should go to something useful, not something that no one listens to and is unlistenable. 94.7 the brew isn't the best station ever or anything, but compared to this it is great. being a DXer in Tulsa i am losing many of the OKC stations that i enjoy including KRXO's move to the smaller 250 watt which will make it where i cannot hear it. Why is the FM band constantly given to religious companies instead of maybe giving us an independent radio alternative of good music? There is NO WAY anyone listens to 94.9.
 
That translator has moved closer to Tulsa over the years. I remember it used be in Owasso. When I took care of my sister's house in Collinsville after her wedding, I remember listening to Jazz Tulsa on 94.9. I'm almost thinking it was on the 101.5 tower just a few miles from her house, but I could be wrong about that.

You have two options, neither of which is mutually exclusive:

(1) Wait for the translator to sign on. Send a letter to 94.7 The Brew and tell them you listened to them in Tulsa, and the translator is interfering with your reception. If The Brew pursues it, they can force the translator to either shut down or move.

(2) Get a smartphone with a good data plan and listen to the Brew on iHeartRadio. KRXO is also available on TuneIn, and I suspect it will still be available after it moves to 104.5.
 
Word. i mainly listen to 94.7 the brew to make use of the airwaves, and my nice long distance rig i have set up. When i go online i usually tune into KEXP, or KCRW. It's just mainly for the fun of picking up far away signals. Online isn't the same feeling. and the sound quality is total crap on their stream. i liked KRXO alot more, but since they are moving i won't hear them. so my only choice is now the brew or KATT. options are slimming down fast. too much sports talk in OKC.
 
They'll be at (approximately?) the same location at slightly less power??

Can anybody tell me WHY they are making this move? I'm not worried about picking up The Brew... but I don't understand the reasoning in changing frequencies... or is it to get away from 95.1?
 
"Wait for the translator to sign on. Send a letter to 94.7 The Brew and tell them you listened to them in Tulsa, and the translator is interfering with your reception. If The Brew pursues it, they can force the translator to either shut down or move." That's a nice thought, but you are well out of the protected contour of The Brew. It is still possible, with tons of ligit listeners, that the FCC could ask them to cease operation, but in Tulsa listening to OKC, the likelihood is very, very slim. There have been broadcasters around here that threw fits about someone putting a translator where they did have a few listeners, and they went no where with the FCC. There is a pretty high bar, in reality, to force a licensed translator off.... Personally, I share some of your disgust for translators that jam up the band. I too have great FM DX equipment, so it is irritating there are less options to use that gear to hear what you want. The worst part is when that trashilator is skipping and producing an unlistenable signal. It is a waste, as very few people, even Catholic, are going to stick around to hear that garbage. Sadly, that's just life though. BTW.... You do know that you CAN put up a second beam antenna and null out the offending signal in most cases, right? Phase cancellation.... It's a beautiful thing (unless it's audio on a stereo station! LOL!)
 
OKCRadioGuy said:
That's a nice thought, but you are well out of the protected contour of The Brew. It is still possible, with tons of ligit listeners, that the FCC could ask them to cease operation, but in Tulsa listening to OKC, the likelihood is very, very slim. There have been broadcasters around here that threw fits about someone putting a translator where they did have a few listeners, and they went no where with the FCC. There is a pretty high bar, in reality, to force a licensed translator off.... Personally, I share some of your disgust for translators that jam up the band. I too have great FM DX equipment, so it is irritating there are less options to use that gear to hear what you want. The worst part is when that trashilator is skipping and producing an unlistenable signal. It is a waste, as very few people, even Catholic, are going to stick around to hear that garbage. Sadly, that's just life though.
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Protected signal contours don't matter for translators. Even if translators cause interference well outside the protected contour of a co-channel or adjacent station, they have to shut down if there are regular listeners in that area. The FCC has been very clear about that in several high profile cases. The biggest one was probably Martz's attempt to bring smooth jazz into Detroit at 104.7. Despite being well outside of WIOT's protected signal contour, WIOT identified several Detroit area listeners, and Martz attempted to help them solve their problem and drop the complaint. They couldn't come to an agreement, and Martz ended up out of Detroit altogether shortly afterward. If you'd like to see the filings, Google "104.7 detroit WIOT." Here's the AllAccess write-up for it: http://www.allaccess.com/net-news/a...-orders-detroit-s-104-7-the-oasis-off-the-air

The catch is that the listeners themselves can't initiate the complaint with the FCC. They have to go to the station they listen to, and that station has to decide to pursue it. If the station chooses to pursue it, they have to provide those listeners' contact information so the translator can first attempt to solve their problem. So, the issue is really whether or not The Brew thinks helping Tulsa area listeners is worth its while, not signal contours. That may be the biggest obstacle to 94.7 The Brew fans in Tulsa. With sister KMOD there, they'd probably rather those listeners tune to 97.5, where they'd be more marketable to the company.
 
Thanks for the info guys. All are very good points. If the move is to get away from 95.1, they will now be stuck next to KTSO'S translator at 94.5. It takes very high selectivity to tune into the brew for me because of that translator. And I have the feeling when tropo swallows the Tulsa area, which happens all summer long, KBRU will be absolutely blasting them out. Also when tropo occurs, you can hear 105.7 KRNB on a regular basis on the 94.9 signal. This is because they link the translator by picking up another translator south of Tulsa on 105.7. Very lazy on their part.
 
The short answer to your problem, notify the the Chief Engineer AND General Manager of the station being interfered with. They will then contact you at some level and take the issue from there...If they work fast your problem will go away in less than 60 days...

A recent example:
Here in North Texas we had a listener in Paris Texas complaining they could no longer hear our Dallas FM station because a translator (250w) for a local (Paris) LPFM had signed on. I forwarded his complaint to our FCC attorney and in less than 30 days the translator was off the air. Paris Texas is well outside our protected contour (total distance from the Dallas transmitter to the listener was 109 miles) but the translator was still considered a secondary service and was required to terminate operation based on the interference complaint.

The translator service is one of the more abused services in broadcasting. Between the SAT-A-LATOR national services and the recent trend of a few LPFM stations applying for 250w translators seems to me (I could be wrong) to be a violation of the "spirit" of the service(s) as well.

As with all things, like the AM top-band expansion fiasco, Docket 80-90, and FM translators, there will always be someone out there who will try to game the system to their advantage...
 
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