Pab Sungenis said:Philly may be a sports city, but it's not a two-sports-stations city. Especially not when you consider that technically, with overflow on AM, it's now a FIVE sports stations city (when CBS uses both 610 and 1210).
Philly listeners have the "WIP" brand burned into their brains when it comes to sports talk, even with the head start the Fanatic got on WIP-FM. When they want talk they'll tune to 94. When the teams are playing, they'll go where the teams are being broadcast.
The only way some larger cities can support two sports stations is when you have two major league teams in town (like New York with the Yankees and Mets in the spring and Giants and Jets in the fall, or Chicago with the White Sox and Cubs). With only one franchise of each major sport, and CBS controlling the contracts for all of them, there is no hope for a competing sports format.
Rick B. said:Pab Sungenis said:Philly may be a sports city, but it's not a two-sports-stations city. Especially not when you consider that technically, with overflow on AM, it's now a FIVE sports stations city (when CBS uses both 610 and 1210).
Philly listeners have the "WIP" brand burned into their brains when it comes to sports talk, even with the head start the Fanatic got on WIP-FM. When they want talk they'll tune to 94. When the teams are playing, they'll go where the teams are being broadcast.
The only way some larger cities can support two sports stations is when you have two major league teams in town (like New York with the Yankees and Mets in the spring and Giants and Jets in the fall, or Chicago with the White Sox and Cubs). With only one franchise of each major sport, and CBS controlling the contracts for all of them, there is no hope for a competing sports format.
I dunno, places like Detroit, St. Louis and Minneapolis all seem to have two or more sports stations. I do think that Greater Media should take a run at getting some major PBP on the station though.
radiophiler said:I'm just wondering whether GM will be satisfied with being the No. 2 sports station in town long term, with ratings that, since WIP's addition of an FM signal, don't appear to be even close to WIP's.
aindik said:radiophiler said:I'm just wondering whether GM will be satisfied with being the No. 2 sports station in town long term, with ratings that, since WIP's addition of an FM signal, don't appear to be even close to WIP's.
Why would it care if it's the "no. 2 sports station"? What it cares about is what number "radio" station it is, and how the ratings are in saleable demos.
They're not in the sports business. They're in the radio business. If profits are better as the No. 2 sports station than they would be as the No. 1 station in some other format, then they'll stick with sports.
RadioPhillyFan said:Trust me, WPEN won't be in much longer.
You'll see, I don't even have to say more - they hint it on air.
RadioPhillyFan said:aindik said:radiophiler said:I'm just wondering whether GM will be satisfied with being the No. 2 sports station in town long term, with ratings that, since WIP's addition of an FM signal, don't appear to be even close to WIP's.
Why would it care if it's the "no. 2 sports station"? What it cares about is what number "radio" station it is, and how the ratings are in saleable demos.
They're not in the sports business. They're in the radio business. If profits are better as the No. 2 sports station than they would be as the No. 1 station in some other format, then they'll stick with sports.
Trust me, WPEN won't be in much longer.
You'll see, I don't even have to say more - they hint it on air.