Sorry for all you fans of Smooth Jazz but it looks like Cummulus will be keeping WYGY country. From what I heard they will have a syndicated morning show named Bandy and Bailey (sp?) and pretty much be voice tracked from other markets for the rest of the dayparts. Anyone else heard this?
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Re: Nice try, salami
> Why would they do that when the station just had a great
> book?
>
> Why would their smaller market stations have live morning
> shows and dayparts, then put on syndication in what would be
> one of their biggest markets?
>
> Who's telling you this crap?
I don't have to tell you my source! But I will tell you that Bandy and Bailey are already on a Cummulus station and will be the morning show for most of their country stations starting here real soon. This is what I've heard and if you don't like hearing it than I'm sorry. (and that's no crap!)
> Why would they do that when the station just had a great
> book?
>
> Why would their smaller market stations have live morning
> shows and dayparts, then put on syndication in what would be
> one of their biggest markets?
>
> Who's telling you this crap?
I don't have to tell you my source! But I will tell you that Bandy and Bailey are already on a Cummulus station and will be the morning show for most of their country stations starting here real soon. This is what I've heard and if you don't like hearing it than I'm sorry. (and that's no crap!)
Re: Nice try, salami
They're on in Lexington. Big deal. ANd yeah, I know they have a syndication deal with Cumulus. Does that mean that Cumulus puts on a small-town show for its big markets? Do you think KPLX in Dallas will run it? WFMS in Indy? These are big market stations. If they do what you say, they may as well go Smmoth Jazz.
They're on in Lexington. Big deal. ANd yeah, I know they have a syndication deal with Cumulus. Does that mean that Cumulus puts on a small-town show for its big markets? Do you think KPLX in Dallas will run it? WFMS in Indy? These are big market stations. If they do what you say, they may as well go Smmoth Jazz.
Re: Nice try, salami
> They're on in Lexington. Big deal. ANd yeah, I know they
> have a syndication deal with Cumulus. Does that mean that
> Cumulus puts on a small-town show for its big markets? Do
> you think KPLX in Dallas will run it? WFMS in Indy? These
> are big market stations. If they do what you say, they may
> as well go Smmoth Jazz.
No, it doesn't mean that. Why? Because those are stations with a proven track record of success and are tops in their respective markets. 96.5 doesn't have that and isn't. (no matter what kind of 18-34 numbers they had in one book)
> They're on in Lexington. Big deal. ANd yeah, I know they
> have a syndication deal with Cumulus. Does that mean that
> Cumulus puts on a small-town show for its big markets? Do
> you think KPLX in Dallas will run it? WFMS in Indy? These
> are big market stations. If they do what you say, they may
> as well go Smmoth Jazz.
No, it doesn't mean that. Why? Because those are stations with a proven track record of success and are tops in their respective markets. 96.5 doesn't have that and isn't. (no matter what kind of 18-34 numbers they had in one book)
Re: Nice try, salami
I remember when Bandy and Bailey were in Columbus, they were pretty good and it's good to hear that they made it to syndication. It probably would be a good show for WYGY.
> > They're on in Lexington. Big deal. ANd yeah, I know they
>
> > have a syndication deal with Cumulus. Does that mean that
>
> > Cumulus puts on a small-town show for its big markets? Do
>
> > you think KPLX in Dallas will run it? WFMS in Indy?
> These
> > are big market stations. If they do what you say, they
> may
> > as well go Smmoth Jazz.
>
> No, it doesn't mean that. Why? Because those are stations
> with a proven track record of success and are tops in their
> respective markets. 96.5 doesn't have that and isn't. (no
> matter what kind of 18-34 numbers they had in one book)
>
I remember when Bandy and Bailey were in Columbus, they were pretty good and it's good to hear that they made it to syndication. It probably would be a good show for WYGY.
> > They're on in Lexington. Big deal. ANd yeah, I know they
>
> > have a syndication deal with Cumulus. Does that mean that
>
> > Cumulus puts on a small-town show for its big markets? Do
>
> > you think KPLX in Dallas will run it? WFMS in Indy?
> These
> > are big market stations. If they do what you say, they
> may
> > as well go Smmoth Jazz.
>
> No, it doesn't mean that. Why? Because those are stations
> with a proven track record of success and are tops in their
> respective markets. 96.5 doesn't have that and isn't. (no
> matter what kind of 18-34 numbers they had in one book)
>
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eyes
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Re: Nice try, salami
Wow. Good ganga is being smoked. Weren't you the same guys who said Tim Clossen was going to be their PD? If they're going to be tracked then there's no need for an in-house PD. Rumors are just that.
Hey, did you hear Warm was going Urban?
WLW True Oldies?
Kiss Spanish?
Keep the mill spinnin'.
> I remember when Bandy and Bailey were in Columbus, they were
> pretty good and it's good to hear that they made it to
> syndication. It probably would be a good show for WYGY.
>
> > > They're on in Lexington. Big deal. ANd yeah, I know
> they
> >
> > > have a syndication deal with Cumulus. Does that mean
> that
> >
> > > Cumulus puts on a small-town show for its big markets?
> Do
> >
> > > you think KPLX in Dallas will run it? WFMS in Indy?
> > These
> > > are big market stations. If they do what you say, they
> > may
> > > as well go Smmoth Jazz.
> >
> > No, it doesn't mean that. Why? Because those are stations
> > with a proven track record of success and are tops in
> their
> > respective markets. 96.5 doesn't have that and isn't. (no
>
> > matter what kind of 18-34 numbers they had in one book)
> >
>
Wow. Good ganga is being smoked. Weren't you the same guys who said Tim Clossen was going to be their PD? If they're going to be tracked then there's no need for an in-house PD. Rumors are just that.
Hey, did you hear Warm was going Urban?
WLW True Oldies?
Kiss Spanish?
Keep the mill spinnin'.
> I remember when Bandy and Bailey were in Columbus, they were
> pretty good and it's good to hear that they made it to
> syndication. It probably would be a good show for WYGY.
>
> > > They're on in Lexington. Big deal. ANd yeah, I know
> they
> >
> > > have a syndication deal with Cumulus. Does that mean
> that
> >
> > > Cumulus puts on a small-town show for its big markets?
> Do
> >
> > > you think KPLX in Dallas will run it? WFMS in Indy?
> > These
> > > are big market stations. If they do what you say, they
> > may
> > > as well go Smmoth Jazz.
> >
> > No, it doesn't mean that. Why? Because those are stations
> > with a proven track record of success and are tops in
> their
> > respective markets. 96.5 doesn't have that and isn't. (no
>
> > matter what kind of 18-34 numbers they had in one book)
> >
>
Re: Nice try, salami
> Wow. Good ganga is being smoked. Weren't you the same guys
> who said Tim Clossen was going to be their PD? If they're
> going to be tracked then there's no need for an in-house PD.
> Rumors are just that.
I never said that Tim Closson would be the new PD. I'm not the type to start rumors on this board. I debated on whether or not to even post it because people's jobs are at stake. But you can trust me on this. You're going to owe me a toke when you find that I'm right.
> Wow. Good ganga is being smoked. Weren't you the same guys
> who said Tim Clossen was going to be their PD? If they're
> going to be tracked then there's no need for an in-house PD.
> Rumors are just that.
I never said that Tim Closson would be the new PD. I'm not the type to start rumors on this board. I debated on whether or not to even post it because people's jobs are at stake. But you can trust me on this. You're going to owe me a toke when you find that I'm right.
Cumulus = small time and small town
It's great that they were good in Columbus and Atlanta and now Lexington. But, they were doing a LOCAL show in those markets.
Country listeners are fiercely loyal. This will not set well with a station that has changed morning shows too often. What I heard of them on their web site isn't great. Sorry, but I think Ken & Kitty are pretty entertaining. Cumulus should syndicate them. I think the good book they had should be proof that they've finally grabbed an audience. As the CBS Radio people said, it would take a year or more for their new Howard Stern replacements to settle in. This is apparently true in this situation as well.
Cumulus is known to be small-town thinkers. This will be a huge mistake. maybe they should read the post above. LOCAL LOCAL LOCAL!
It's great that they were good in Columbus and Atlanta and now Lexington. But, they were doing a LOCAL show in those markets.
Country listeners are fiercely loyal. This will not set well with a station that has changed morning shows too often. What I heard of them on their web site isn't great. Sorry, but I think Ken & Kitty are pretty entertaining. Cumulus should syndicate them. I think the good book they had should be proof that they've finally grabbed an audience. As the CBS Radio people said, it would take a year or more for their new Howard Stern replacements to settle in. This is apparently true in this situation as well.
Cumulus is known to be small-town thinkers. This will be a huge mistake. maybe they should read the post above. LOCAL LOCAL LOCAL!
Re: Cumulus = small time and small town
I just listened to their "Ask Jason's Mom" bit. Very boring and unfunny. The southern accent is not going to work here. I know it's real.
How long were these guys in Columbus. Why did they leave? Why did they leave Atlanta? They weren't there very long.
I just listened to their "Ask Jason's Mom" bit. Very boring and unfunny. The southern accent is not going to work here. I know it's real.
How long were these guys in Columbus. Why did they leave? Why did they leave Atlanta? They weren't there very long.
Re: Cumulus = small time and small town
> I just listened to their "Ask Jason's Mom" bit. Very boring
> and unfunny. The southern accent is not going to work here.
> I know it's real.
>
> How long were these guys in Columbus. Why did they leave?
> Why did they leave Atlanta? They weren't there very long.
Oscar, I don't know anything about them or their show. Maybe somebody else does. Anyone?
> I just listened to their "Ask Jason's Mom" bit. Very boring
> and unfunny. The southern accent is not going to work here.
> I know it's real.
>
> How long were these guys in Columbus. Why did they leave?
> Why did they leave Atlanta? They weren't there very long.
Oscar, I don't know anything about them or their show. Maybe somebody else does. Anyone?
It really doesn't matter what goes on 96.5, it'll never amount to a dominant audience. A former PD once said of that station, "You could promote for 3 weeks that you'd have exclusivity on the date of the end of the world and still only get a 5-share." The antenna is 19 miles from the middle of the metro and though you can drive around and not much notice the lesser signal, it's not a "local" station in enough homes to be anything but a flanker. Before you start telling me how good it is at your house, consider I'm talking about people with cheap clock radios on kitchen counters and nightstands or $79 bookshelf systems with no antennas connected, not your dxing machine.
If I had Mojo doing as well as it's doing, (and that's better than about any other Mojo format in the country) I'd sure not tempt fate by putting something as competitive as smooth jazz on its sister. Smooth jazz wouldn't do any favors for Warm, etither. The Star keeps most of it's share from going to WUBE, which is just enough to keep them from cutting into Warm's rates any worse than they do.
It would make a lot of sense (cents) to go with a syndicated morning show and VT the rest of the day, keeping it country. Cheap, successful flanking is the best use of that signal.
If I had Mojo doing as well as it's doing, (and that's better than about any other Mojo format in the country) I'd sure not tempt fate by putting something as competitive as smooth jazz on its sister. Smooth jazz wouldn't do any favors for Warm, etither. The Star keeps most of it's share from going to WUBE, which is just enough to keep them from cutting into Warm's rates any worse than they do.
It would make a lot of sense (cents) to go with a syndicated morning show and VT the rest of the day, keeping it country. Cheap, successful flanking is the best use of that signal.
But, they won't take away nearly as much audience from B105 if they run syndicated crap. Listen to MIX. It's a voice-tracked nothing. They get a big bump from Christmas, then sink the rest of the year. They're a NON-factor.
As far as signal goes, do you consider MIX and Q to be local stations? Star gets just as much 12+ AQH as those stations do.
For WYGY to fulfill its mission of protecting the cluster, it has to be a good station. Syndication and voice-tracking does NOT accomplish this goal.<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by Oscar on 01/31/06 03:31 PM.</FONT></P>
As far as signal goes, do you consider MIX and Q to be local stations? Star gets just as much 12+ AQH as those stations do.
For WYGY to fulfill its mission of protecting the cluster, it has to be a good station. Syndication and voice-tracking does NOT accomplish this goal.<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by Oscar on 01/31/06 03:31 PM.</FONT></P>
It's over-simplification, but FOX has a syndicated morning show and except for Gary Jeff, the rest is VT-ed. They do OK.
96 might do even better if they'd just shut up and play the hits. In any case, country is a better flanking move than smmooth jazz which I believe would cut into their own stations.
I think MIX or Q could (and should) be doing a lot better than they are. Just because they aren't showing any better than 96 doesn't prove 96's signal is a local. It's been a long time, but Q has been #1 and Mix has been in the fight. 96 has never been better than an also-ran.
You are so right about MIX. I don't know why CC doesn't do something constructive with it. Hell, SPANISH would do better than what they have now!
96 might do even better if they'd just shut up and play the hits. In any case, country is a better flanking move than smmooth jazz which I believe would cut into their own stations.
I think MIX or Q could (and should) be doing a lot better than they are. Just because they aren't showing any better than 96 doesn't prove 96's signal is a local. It's been a long time, but Q has been #1 and Mix has been in the fight. 96 has never been better than an also-ran.
You are so right about MIX. I don't know why CC doesn't do something constructive with it. Hell, SPANISH would do better than what they have now!
I don't think a station with a 4.0 share in Cincinnati is an also ran. These stations all fall within half a share of WYGY 12+: WKFS, WGRR, WKRQ, WKRC, WIZF, WVMX, and WMOJ.
Not to mention #3 with young adults.
As for The FOX, they don't do well after B&T go off. Maybe B&T work becasue the only other Rock morning show in town had been WEBN, then Stern on a weak signal. I don't think you can do that to a country audience unless it's someone with a big name. These guys don't have it and their show sounds lame.
Not to mention #3 with young adults.
As for The FOX, they don't do well after B&T go off. Maybe B&T work becasue the only other Rock morning show in town had been WEBN, then Stern on a weak signal. I don't think you can do that to a country audience unless it's someone with a big name. These guys don't have it and their show sounds lame.
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Do country better? Umm, ya.
As for smooth jazz, don't send us back down that road with Warm and the numbers.
> So would you leave it as-is, do country better, or put
> smooth jazz on it?
>
As for smooth jazz, don't send us back down that road with Warm and the numbers.
> So would you leave it as-is, do country better, or put
> smooth jazz on it?
>
Re: AWWW Heck,Bring back 96ROCK
I'd like to hear Bender and Fingers in the mornings again!!
> Country done better. LIVE and LOCAL air staff.
>
> For God's sake, this is not Lexington. B105 is a
> competitive radio station. If YGY goes syndicated in
> mornings, it's over. And if they voice-track the rest of
> the day, turn out the lights.
>
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by microbob on 02/01/06 06:05 PM.</FONT></P>
I'd like to hear Bender and Fingers in the mornings again!!
> Country done better. LIVE and LOCAL air staff.
>
> For God's sake, this is not Lexington. B105 is a
> competitive radio station. If YGY goes syndicated in
> mornings, it's over. And if they voice-track the rest of
> the day, turn out the lights.
>
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by microbob on 02/01/06 06:05 PM.</FONT></P>
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rafferdy
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Re: AWWW Heck,Bring back 96ROCK
Bring back the Beaver 96 and a half!
> > Country done better. LIVE and LOCAL air staff.
> >
> > For God's sake, this is not Lexington. B105 is a
> > competitive radio station. If YGY goes syndicated in
> > mornings, it's over. And if they voice-track the rest of
> > the day, turn out the lights.
> >
>
Bring back the Beaver 96 and a half!
> > Country done better. LIVE and LOCAL air staff.
> >
> > For God's sake, this is not Lexington. B105 is a
> > competitive radio station. If YGY goes syndicated in
> > mornings, it's over. And if they voice-track the rest of
> > the day, turn out the lights.
> >
>
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