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96.7 Gaining up on 98.7

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LibertyNT

The Ratings show it
Platinum 96.7 is .4 shares away from 98.7 KLUV!
KLUV-FM 3.5
KPMZ-FM 3.1

Mr. Ron Chapman is apparently doing something right!
 
That's hard to say just yet. I think the numbers you have were from Christmas 2008, and were 6+. We'd have to see the extraps to know the full story, and especially what they look like in a couple of months once Debi Diaz's old fans find her. But I do see momentum there.
 
MikeShannon914 said:
That's hard to say just yet. I think the numbers you have were from Christmas 2008, and were 6+. We'd have to see the extraps to know the full story, and especially what they look like in a couple of months once Debi Diaz's old fans find her. But I do see momentum there.
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Did Debi land at Platinum? I don't see her listed on their website -
 
rbrucecarter5 said:
Did Debi land at Platinum? I don't see her listed on their website -
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YES!! We talked about it under the "where's Wendi" thread. And great to hear her back on the air.

Nah, Platinum is only quick-to-the-punch with the website to remove you when you've been let go. :-X
 
Debi is a a main stay..believe it. She and Ron worked well together at KLUV.
 
There is way too much excitement and attention given to Debi Diaz. While I am sure she is a sweet and wonderful person, her show lacks substance. As I mentioned in a previous post, not much there aside from the calls, the back sells and the front sells. Yes, I'm sure that listeners love her however I think the bar is set pretty low. Length of time at a station does not mean that she is a great talent. Sometimes is just takes a while before they can you.
 
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Please. I don't know what you're grading her against, but if you're comparing her sound on Platinum vs KLUV, there's a philosophical difference in programming there. Platinum is not "loud" or energetic. Ron seems to give a specific latitude there for jokes, quips, cut-ins, even liner cards and promotions. It's far below the level that KLUV might allow. But that's the "sound" of the station.

So, just for sh!ts and grins, who's a better talent than Debi who's CURRENTLY on the radio in DFW? I don't want that tired list someone else always gives, consisting of Roger Barkley, Charlie Tuna, Murray the K, etc...I'm asking for current and local.

The bar is commeasurately set lower these days in relation to pay, and to the level of interest and commitment and dedication and trust and latitude one gets in return from their OWN station. You can't expect to hire a million-dollar jock on a $20K a year salary.
 
Radio has never been known for being a “high paying” industry. Just ask the other board members if they got into radio for the money. I’m sure that very few will say yes. Entertaining, a love of music, a need for attention, a way to get laid more easily, are just a few. I say that tongue in cheek however, the list of reasons why people get into this business is long and I don’t believe that “getting rich” is on the list.

I also don’t agree with your suggestion that disc jockeys are holding back their quality of service because their pay is low. “So here’s the deal Mr. Program Director, $50K a year buys you one funny line per hour. If you want two funny lines per hour then I am going to need another $25K.” If a person is that miserable with what they are being paid, then LEAVE. Someone is right behind you to take your place. And the audience will appreciate it.

I read through the board and found a previous post where you said that Debi could have fit in nicely at KVIL in its day. I need to know who your dealer is because you are obviously getting some better stuff than I am. To say that she could have fit in with Ron, Jack and Lynn (to name just a few) is absurd. KVIL was way beyond her depth.

My previous post, appropriately titled “DFW Radio; The talent pool is dry, and it has been for a while” is dead on. Let’s not begin giving awards out to the best of the worst.
 
OK, well, I can't make you like Debi, and obviously I'm a fan of hers, and we're each entitled to our own opinions. Debi at her best, to me at least, was when she worked the all-request lunch hour show at KLUV. She juggled calls, held a high level of energy, and could zone in on that one listener while she did her thing. That was one of the cornerstones of the old KVIL, to talk directly to that one person, to entertain that person and be like an old friend. Read the earlier post from the woman who talked about how Debi was an integral part of her day when at KLUV.

And if Ron didn't think she could do the job, and do it to his specs, he wouldn't have even hired her for Platinum.

Nah, I don't think jocks hold back with perfect structure in the way you said, but I think some might not try as hard, or put as much into the overall product, if they think they're going to be fired the next day...and/or if they're working 2 to 3 to 4 jobs trying to get by...and if they're tired/bitter/etc...or if they're not getting some vow of faith in return from their employer (and I mean more than just a paycheck.) Perhaps a better term here is "calling it in"...doing the minimum to stay employed.

Money? Well, yeah, sure, I'm sure lots of folks, especially in the 70s and 80s, had illusions (delusions) of grandeur that they might be the next Wolfman Jack or Don Imus or Lohman and Barkley or Larry Lujack, and get the spoils that go with it. Mike Selden was on that path, but couldn't shake off the demons that go with having too much money and too much time on one's hands. Chapman had big offers, but chose to stay in Dallas. Larry Dixon worked his KVIL time into a nice career in Chicago radio. Being married vs single also skews your priorities...not everyone who gets into the biz is a horny kiddo.

There's no real right or wrong answer here...peoples' reasons for doing things are as varied as people themselves, and beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Just because I hold Debi in high regard doesn't mean YOU have to. I also weigh in what the industry is NOW compared to THEN. You don't find many Jack Schells, Ron Chapmans, Mike Seldens, etc anymore, anywhere. The few that could pull that off today are saddled by liners, stopsets, and a general restraint on creativity. That's the real reason the bar's set lower now...it takes some keen creativity to work that 6 seconds or 19 seconds a jock is alloted to interact. The old KVIL folks weren't shackled that way.
 
I agree with you there Mike. Today's personalities are shackled and you are correct, there is NO loyalty anymore. I am in a totally different industry now and there is zero loyalty where I am. Yes, we take pride in our work however, we realize that we a are just a number to management and that someday our number will be called.

My parents came from a generation where it was not uncommon to work for an employer for 20 or 30 years after graduating high school. Many of those folks had only one or two jobs in their lifetime. Not anymore. I miss those days.

Glad we can disagree and still remain civil. :)
 
SaveDFWRadio said:
My parents came from a generation where it was not uncommon to work for an employer for 20 or 30 years after graduating high school. Many of those folks had only one or two jobs in their lifetime. Not anymore. I miss those days.
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Very sad, but very true. And it's not just with radio, either. This is a textbook example of when clueless, greedy managers call the shots. These bozos screw around with the careers of good employees. Even the public school districts are getting to be just as bad. DISD and MISD are just two examples. The only way this spiral will end, is when greedy and clueless managers are shown the door, and replaced by managers who love and care for the product. I fear however that there are so many loser management types in control now, that there's no turning back.
 
Winning what? 60+ unsalable audience. last I looked the demos kick in very very old
 
realitycheck71 said:
Winning what? 60+ unsalable audience. last I looked the demos kick in very very old
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Although that is the main Demographic for these stations. I have found that Many People under 55 like Oldies. Although only certain ones. Gimme Some Lovin' Is an example of an Oldie that younger people like.
 
Debi Diaz would definitely have fit in when KVIL was a radio station under Chapman. Her personality, her promotional appearances,and on air talent would have molded very well with what Chapman had. He hired a woman name Kris Burns(?) who did over nights on the weekends and she didnt last long because when had a on air presence of dry wall paper.but he tried to coach her. Debi would have fit very well on KVIL.
 
I don't have any personal agenda in this discussion. That being said, if you can "suit up & show up" and perform at a consistent level within the format as Debbie Diaz did for many years, you earn the title of a "pro". Whatever her status or pay level at Platinum, Ms. Diaz isn't a Ron Chapman, Larry Dixon, Kidd K. or even a Jon Dillon but she is a "pro".

Hey! Here's an idea!---let's name all the local radio(or national) music or talk personalities under the age of 40 that you'd call a real radio "pro".

Hmmmmmm.......
 
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