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97.1 and 98.5

Is there a way to find out coverage of these translators? I cant find anything about them on the FCC database, are they legal? Sometimes even when I am driving south of Austin listening to KBBT, 98.5 in Austin blows through, I'm about 30 miles south of Austin. I'd like to know where they are comming out from.<P ID="signature">______________
jras20</P>
 
Here you go.

98.5: http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/fmq?list=0&facid=139280
97.1: http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/fmq?list=0&facid=139279

Scroll down to the link for service contour

Now puzzle me this: how did an transjamilator get allocated 400 kHz from an in-town full-power station (KVET @ 98.1), on what appears to be the same tower?

> Is there a way to find out coverage of these translators? I
> cant find anything about them on the FCC database, are they
> legal? Sometimes even when I am driving south of Austin
> listening to KBBT, 98.5 in Austin blows through, I'm about
> 30 miles south of Austin. I'd like to know where they are
> comming out from.
>
 
> Now puzzle me this: how did an transjamilator get allocated
> 400 kHz from an in-town full-power station (KVET @ 98.1), on
> what appears to be the same tower?

This has been a sore spot for LPFM operators ever since the FCC started authorizing them. LPFM stations have to afford third-adjacent channel protection to full-power stations while translators, which have roughly the same power, don't even have to afford second-adjacent protection. Both can be forced off-air if they cause problems to full-power stations in any way.
 
Thanks, yeah thats strange, I wouldnt even see how that would be approved even with KBBT being near. They do seem to have it on that same tower as kvet.
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jras20</P><P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by jras20 on 02/09/06 12:55 AM.</FONT></P>
 
I am still not clear as to where 98.5 and 97.1 are coming from. I cannot pick up either from my Round Rock home, but I can from work in downtown Austin. KBBT is rarely heard anywhere but far south Austin, so I really doubt any LP station at 98.5 would be any sort of issue.


> > Now puzzle me this: how did an transjamilator get
> allocated
> > 400 kHz from an in-town full-power station (KVET @ 98.1),
> on
> > what appears to be the same tower?
>
> This has been a sore spot for LPFM operators ever since the
> FCC started authorizing them. LPFM stations have to afford
> third-adjacent channel protection to full-power stations
> while translators, which have roughly the same power, don't
> even have to afford second-adjacent protection. Both can be
> forced off-air if they cause problems to full-power stations
> in any way.
>
 
> I am still not clear as to where 98.5 and 97.1 are coming
> from. I cannot pick up either from my Round Rock home, but
> I can from work in downtown Austin. KBBT is rarely heard
> anywhere but far south Austin, so I really doubt any LP
> station at 98.5 would be any sort of issue.
>
>
> > > Now puzzle me this: how did an transjamilator get
> > allocated
> > > 400 kHz from an in-town full-power station (KVET @
> 98.1),
> > on
> > > what appears to be the same tower?
> >
> > This has been a sore spot for LPFM operators ever since
> the
> > FCC started authorizing them. LPFM stations have to
> afford
> > third-adjacent channel protection to full-power stations
> > while translators, which have roughly the same power,
> don't


> > even have to afford second-adjacent protection. Both can
> be
> > forced off-air if they cause problems to full-power
> stations
> > in any way.
> >
> what exactly is playing? 97.1 Could be comming from Houston-I've been able to still listen to Houston radio on 71 going towards Austin and as far as south of Austin.
 
> I am still not clear as to where 98.5 and 97.1 are coming
> from. I cannot pick up either from my Round Rock home, but
> I can from work in downtown Austin. KBBT is rarely heard
> anywhere but far south Austin, so I really doubt any LP
> station at 98.5 would be any sort of issue.

The transmitters for 97.1 and 98.5 are just west of downtown. That's why you can pick them up in downtown Austin. You can't hear either in Round Rock because they operate at small wattage well south of Round Rock. They don't appear to have more than a 5 or 10 mile coverage radius. You're essentially talking two 75 watt signals. 75 watts isn't going to do much better than climbing a tower with a megaphone!

Translators often get clobbered outside of their primary signal contour. As an example, about five years ago, I was in Chattanooga, TN. There was apparently a translator at 96.1 out of Rossville, GA that operated at 10 watts. I say apparently because I never heard it. My home stereo picked up WKLS 96.1 out of Atlanta. How far was the apartment where I was crashing from the boundary of the translator's primary signal contour? About a half mile! With a 98.5 from San Antonio not to mention a local 98.1, that 75 watt translator, too, will be clobbered just outside its main signal contour.
 
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