97.1 -NEW FORMAT AGAIN

[Tenn Radio Boy]

New PD, New positioning will not change the fate of the signal until they get new owners.
Cumulus does not know how to fix stations. Example, The Wolf, used to be great, now what?

 

[radioheroforhire]

I really like the music on RQQ, It will be interesting to see what happens with the station.

 

[DeBuzzed]

This is exactly what Bob and Tom lead in needs a MAINSTREAM Rock Satation...

105.9 - Clasic Rock
102.9 - Active Rock

97.1 has perfectly wiggled right in the middle with a solid playlist. I pulled Mediabase logs and scoured through them it's a perfect rotation of Classic, Recurrents and only the absolute best of Currents from the Rock Formats.

The new PD at 97.1 has a solid reputation, clearly 102.9 is in massive restructuring and 105.9 is so wimpy anymore it's perfect timimg and no matter what you say B&T still get ratings.

Yeah yeah yeah Cumulus blah blah blah... if they promote this properly during Bob and Tom people will stay and middays at the Buzz will feel the first blow. Then TSL will go up in afternoons based on B&T fans leaving their radio on 97.1 when they go into work and will stay because they aren't playing crap when they get in the car to go home.

Finally PEOPLE METERS people Rock formats do very well and we are getting closer to rollout every day if you are not established when it gets here your done.

THE #1 KEY TO WINNING IS PROMOTE IT PROPERLY!!!!

 

[scottwmro]

and 105.9 is so wimpy anymore it's perfect timimg and no matter what you say B&T still get ratings.

AMEN, AMEN ON 105.9! That is the whimpist, excuse for a Rock station I've ever seen. Best thing for them to do is bring back the "Star 106" format and get OUT of the Rock Race. The station sounds "so red neck" it's insane. Southern Rock has been dead and gone for years! What in the world is the matter with them. I guess since Clear Channel is in such a turboil going private, they don't care.

The Buzz, everything that rocks.....where's Air Supply? The 55 plus call them Rock (HA!) ;D

 

[Mr. Park]

This is exactly what Bob and Tom lead in needs a MAINSTREAM Rock Satation...

105.9 - Clasic Rock
102.9 - Active Rock

97.1 has perfectly wiggled right in the middle with a solid playlist. I pulled Mediabase logs and scoured through them it's a perfect rotation of Classic, Recurrents and only the absolute best of Currents from the Rock Formats.

The new PD at 97.1 has a solid reputation, clearly 102.9 is in massive restructuring and 105.9 is so wimpy anymore it's perfect timimg and no matter what you say B&T still get ratings.

Yeah yeah yeah Cumulus blah blah blah... if they promote this properly during Bob and Tom people will stay and middays at the Buzz will feel the first blow. Then TSL will go up in afternoons based on B&T fans leaving their radio on 97.1 when they go into work and will stay because they aren't playing crap when they get in the car to go home.

Finally PEOPLE METERS people Rock formats do very well and we are getting closer to rollout every day if you are not established when it gets here your done.

THE #1 KEY TO WINNING IS PROMOTE IT PROPERLY!!!!

this must be the new PD posting about his perfect music mix/rotations. LOL. glad you think so, hey kid this isn't Toledo. better calm down and get ready for yet another 2 share for 97.1.

 

[deltas69]

The station sounds "so red neck" it's insane. Southern Rock has been dead and gone for years! now this is sacrey when scott and i agree on something..but but in a lefthanded way..yea,skynard mahn is really tired..i mean we played free bird as our encore song in my band back in 77..but the mullet crowd that listens to the rock is STILL stuck in that blue collor era..werkforce anyone ? and they never tire of hearing syknard mahn, zz,tom petty,ac/dc, every friggin hour..the rock is programming to ..how shall i put this diplomaticaly ? to an audience whose IQ seldom reaches daytime temps in august..at least from the people i see having it turned on in the places i frequent upon my daily appointed rounds..i realize this is anadotal evidence..but by repeating the same ole same ole..doesn't tax the rock listener's memory bank..once a year when the rock has their listener request call in..actually do hear a little sompin sompin different..just once i wish they'ed play the pusher...but probably a bit old for the wurk force...but i could be wrong in all of this..

 

[SwissVol]

Now you guys do not be too hard on the Skynyrd boyz. LOL

Any good deep cut album rock station would play "Mr Banker" or BB Kng Medley or "One more time" by the Skynrd boyz.

BB King Medley is one of the finest blues rock song I have ever heard.

Agreed that Free Bird and Gimme three steps have been absolutely beaten to death down through the years.

 

[Tibbs4]

Hey, I,ve been tryin to keep out of the rock n roll fist fight...but I have to say two things...

1.) Let the professional from Toledo work his magic because no one from here has be
a real man and stepped up to the plate. The new 97.1 is our first real rocker in my life
and he better not wimp out. FTR, I like the station and I could care a less about most
of the stuff they play. SO, Crumulus gets props. I can give credit and prefer to do more
than just be bitter,

2.) Scott, hell, next thing ye know, you'll be able to buy that there Arbor Mist in a TN
grocery store next to the Bud and that'll probably transform the rednecks into the 17th
Century. Then again, not like those CLOWNS in the govt will do anything right.

Things are looking up for life in Music City. And yes, evem though I think Romer can
"play" better music than most, at least according to some recently deleted post...
I have to say in public that I think 105.9 has been all but forgotten for years.
Bring on the rock. I haven't heard Stevie Wonder on 97.1 yet...I love Stevie Wonder's
music. But its better suited for Mix 92.9. RQQ --- I just called to say I love you.
At least this week.

 

[Mr. Park]

We'll see the magic when the spring begins to roll out. I am excited about a change in the music city but I can't help but think that the station is fighting to stomp out the Buzz which has no real ratings. From a ratings and cash flow point of view, how well can 97.1 do with the Jack, WNRQ, The Buzz all in the mix? it's a crowded market place.

 

[roadrunner]

I like it...it's a massive improvement so far. You know you're not gonna hear
"Dreams" by Fleetwood Mac like 105-9 the "rock" and you'll get a steady
dose of rock unlike Jack. I don't even listen The Buzz because it comes in like
crap! This is the best 97-1's ever sounded IMO ... hope they stick with it. Except
for maybe ditching B&T.

 

[courier37027]

I like the new sound too. IIRC The Rock at 1059 also played the deeper cuts after their format change in 1997 or 98 (whenever it was). Hear what we have today at the Pebble.

Let's hope 97-1 holds steady on these rock cuts and does not slide into the wimpy offerings of Phil Collins-led Genesis, the social conscience of U2 or the KDF litany of Mellencamp from A to Z.

In case of emergency 97-1 can break glass and play it safe: Eagles and Seger ad nauseum.

 

[scottwmro]

I like the new sound too. IIRC The Rock at 1059 also played the deeper cuts after their format change in 1997 or 98 (whenever it was). Hear what we have today at the Pebble.

Let's hope 97-1 holds steady on these rock cuts and does not slide into the wimpy offerings of Phil Collins-led Genesis, the social conscience of U2 or the KDF litany of Mellencamp from A to Z.

In case of emergency 97-1 can break glass and play it safe: Eagles and Seger ad nauseum.

Freebird is now A DEAD BIRD as far as I'm conerned!

Rename 1059 "The REDNECK @ 105.9".

The typical tennessee redneck loves all those groups because the damn consultants think us people in Nashville are stupid, and it's thier way of playing it safe. What we all should do on this board, is when these kind of artist starting getting into rotation (Eagles, Segar, Phil Collins, etc) and cause a rock station to "play it safe & whimp out", is to start emailing the consultant firm the station is working with AND attack the ad agencies. If you want action, you got to go for the guts of where the problem is behind the scenes of the station and throw bombs at corporate, let them know we won't buy from thier customers they run ads for!

 

[SwissVol]

I like the new sound too. IIRC The Rock at 1059 also played the deeper cuts after their format change in 1997 or 98 (whenever it was). Hear what we have today at the Pebble.

Let's hope 97-1 holds steady on these rock cuts and does not slide into the wimpy offerings of Phil Collins-led Genesis, the social conscience of U2 or the KDF litany of Mellencamp from A to Z.

In case of emergency 97-1 can break glass and play it safe: Eagles and Seger ad nauseum.

Freebird is now A DEAD BIRD as far as I'm conerned!

Rename 1059 "The REDNECK @ 105.9".

The typical tennessee redneck loves all those groups because the damn consultants think us people in Nashville are stupid, and it's thier way of playing it safe. What we all should do on this board, is when these kind of artist starting getting into rotation (Eagles, Segar, Phil Collins, etc) and cause a rock station to "play it safe & whimp out", is to start emailing the consultant firm the station is working with AND attack the ad agencies. If you want action, you got to go for the guts of where the problem is behind the scenes of the station and throw bombs at corporate, let them know we won't buy from thier customers they run ads for!

Scott, there is nothing wrong with playing artists such as the Eagles, Bob Seger, Bad Company and so on and so forth providing that the programming steers clear of cramming the same tired songs down the listeners throat all the time.

Ok, Rock 105.9 plays Turn the page quite a lot, but why not play other Seger songs. How about Let it rock the old Chuck Berry tune from Live bullet or how about "Train man" from the first Bob Seger system album.

Instead of playing Taking it easy by the Eagles, how about playing "Teenage Jail-Greeks don't want know freaks" or how about "outlaw man" by The Eagles. How about taking many of the same bands that 105.9 plays and adding those cool deeper cuts. You know how 105.9 plays Bad Company by Bad Company? How about their playing "Evil Wind" or "Wild fire woman" or "Rhythm machine by Bad Company. Point is for Rock 105.9 to do the classic rock, classic album rock thing with the right approach. Not only those bands and songs, but include bands and songs that were thrown by Abrahams henchmen years ago. Not to bad mouth Abrahamas again. He has corrected past sins in many ways.

What would you all think if you heard 105.9 doing this kind of classic rock programming one day? Would you think: sounds great, but it will not last?

 

[jetfli]

IIRC The Rock at 1059 also played the deeper cuts after their format change in 1997 or 98 (whenever it was). Hear what we have today at the Pebble.

Rock to Pebble, 105.9 is a great study in Format Erosion. Time to place a call to Lightning's Team Green for some environmental assistance.

All this talk about good music, bad music, lame music, dead music makes my head spin. The real music lovers among us know it's (mostly) all good... the real culprits are Overplaying, Dead Formats, and Bad Management (I would've said "Company" instead of "Management", but Bad Company hasn't been the same since Paul Rodgers left).

I now have three iPods. One is 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s; one is country rock, redneck rock, and bluegrass; and the third is Rock with a capital R. I plug in which ever I'm in the mood for, set it on shuffle, and let it be "radio". And if one of those overplayed songs comes up that I'm not in the mood for, I just tap the wheel on the right, and boom, next song (let's see Jack offer me that!). So why do I need any station to play music for me?

Okay, so what I don't get is time, temp, news, weather, traffic, and an announcer who would bring me into "community". And if there's anything missing from music radio today it's "community". I grew up in a town with three Top 40 stations. They all played the exact same music, but we teens chose and defended one based on the "community" we liked being a part of.

That's why, when I'm listening to radio for my own edification, I listen to the Zone. They are giving me information I can't get as easily any where else, and I feel like I'm part of the local community of sports fans when I listen to it.

And that's what radio needs to provide today to survive. Programming that isn't or isn't readily found elsewhere, like music. The biggest hope for the future of music radio is Apple's iTunes tagging for digital radio, which actually provides a service to listeners and promises a small fee to the station when anyone downloads via the tag. Otherwise, radio must find unique programming for terrestrial radio.

Or Format Erosion will give way to Radio Erosion. And Al Gore won't be able to do anything about it...

 

[DeBuzzed]

This is exactly what Bob and Tom lead in needs a MAINSTREAM Rock Satation...

105.9 - Clasic Rock
102.9 - Active Rock

97.1 has perfectly wiggled right in the middle with a solid playlist. I pulled Mediabase logs and scoured through them it's a perfect rotation of Classic, Recurrents and only the absolute best of Currents from the Rock Formats.

The new PD at 97.1 has a solid reputation, clearly 102.9 is in massive restructuring and 105.9 is so wimpy anymore it's perfect timimg and no matter what you say B&T still get ratings.

Yeah yeah yeah Cumulus blah blah blah... if they promote this properly during Bob and Tom people will stay and middays at the Buzz will feel the first blow. Then TSL will go up in afternoons based on B&T fans leaving their radio on 97.1 when they go into work and will stay because they aren't playing crap when they get in the car to go home.

Finally PEOPLE METERS people Rock formats do very well and we are getting closer to rollout every day if you are not established when it gets here your done.

THE #1 KEY TO WINNING IS PROMOTE IT PROPERLY!!!!

this must be the new PD posting about his perfect music mix/rotations. LOL. glad you think so, hey kid this isn't Toledo. better calm down and get ready for yet another 2 share for 97.1.

Actually I am not the new PD but "Bitter party of one your table is ready" have we reached the day where a compliment MUST be by the person being complimented.

In that case I effen ROCK!!!!!!!

I have lived here for 8 years and am currently NOT in radio.

Good day sir...

 

[firepoint525]

I like the new sound too. IIRC The Rock at 1059 also played the deeper cuts after their format change in 1997 or 98 (whenever it was). Hear what we have today at the Pebble.
Let's hope 97-1 holds steady on these rock cuts and does not slide into the wimpy offerings of Phil Collins-led Genesis, the social conscience of U2 or the KDF litany of Mellencamp from A to Z.
In case of emergency 97-1 can break glass and play it safe: Eagles and Seger ad nauseum.

Right, 105.9 has turned into the Arrow or the Core. Take your pick; they are one and the same. Back in their early days, 105.9 used to poke fun at Arrow/Core for playing too many early '70s songs like "Stuck in the Middle With You." But at least they haven't turned into what KDF used to be, playing Cheryl Crow and letting that pass for "rock"! :

 

[firepoint525]

Scott, there is nothing wrong with playing artists such as the Eagles, Bob Seger, Bad Company and so on and so forth providing that the programming steers clear of cramming the same tired songs down the listeners throat all the time.

Ok, Rock 105.9 plays Turn the page quite a lot, but why not play other Seger songs. How about Let it rock the old Chuck Berry tune from Live bullet or how about "Train man" from the first Bob Seger system album.

Instead of playing Taking it easy by the Eagles, how about playing "Teenage Jail-Greeks don't want know freaks" or how about "outlaw man" by The Eagles. How about taking many of the same bands that 105.9 plays and adding those cool deeper cuts. You know how 105.9 plays Bad Company by Bad Company? How about their playing "Evil Wind" or "Wild fire woman" or "Rhythm machine by Bad Company. Point is for Rock 105.9 to do the classic rock, classic album rock thing with the right approach. Not only those bands and songs, but include bands and songs that were thrown by Abrahams henchmen years ago. Not to bad mouth Abrahamas again. He has corrected past sins in many ways.

What would you all think if you heard 105.9 doing this kind of classic rock programming one day? Would you think: sounds great, but it will not last?

All excellent choices!

 

[Mr. Park]

This is exactly what Bob and Tom lead in needs a MAINSTREAM Rock Satation...

105.9 - Clasic Rock
102.9 - Active Rock

97.1 has perfectly wiggled right in the middle with a solid playlist. I pulled Mediabase logs and scoured through them it's a perfect rotation of Classic, Recurrents and only the absolute best of Currents from the Rock Formats.

The new PD at 97.1 has a solid reputation, clearly 102.9 is in massive restructuring and 105.9 is so wimpy anymore it's perfect timimg and no matter what you say B&T still get ratings.

Yeah yeah yeah Cumulus blah blah blah... if they promote this properly during Bob and Tom people will stay and middays at the Buzz will feel the first blow. Then TSL will go up in afternoons based on B&T fans leaving their radio on 97.1 when they go into work and will stay because they aren't playing crap when they get in the car to go home.

Finally PEOPLE METERS people Rock formats do very well and we are getting closer to rollout every day if you are not established when it gets here your done.

THE #1 KEY TO WINNING IS PROMOTE IT PROPERLY!!!!

this must be the new PD posting about his perfect music mix/rotations. LOL. glad you think so, hey kid this isn't Toledo. better calm down and get ready for yet another 2 share for 97.1.

Actually I am not the new PD but "Bitter party of one your table is ready" have we reached the day where a compliment MUST be by the person being complimented.

In that case I effen ROCK!!!!!!!

I have lived here for 8 years and am currently NOT in radio.

Good day sir...

I'm not bitter, just an opinion. Can you please cut back on the 38 special, Molly Hatchet and yes i did hear Skynyrd. I thought this was a change, I thought we were trying to be fresh, fun and different.

 

[scottwmro]

Scott, there is nothing wrong with playing artists such as the Eagles, Bob Seger, Bad Company and so on and so forth providing that the programming steers clear of cramming the same tired songs down the listeners throat all the time.

Ok, Rock 105.9 plays Turn the page quite a lot, but why not play other Seger songs. How about Let it rock the old Chuck Berry tune from Live bullet or how about "Train man" from the first Bob Seger system album.

Instead of playing Taking it easy by the Eagles, how about playing "Teenage Jail-Greeks don't want know freaks" or how about "outlaw man" by The Eagles. How about taking many of the same bands that 105.9 plays and adding those cool deeper cuts. You know how 105.9 plays Bad Company by Bad Company? How about their playing "Evil Wind" or "Wild fire woman" or "Rhythm machine by Bad Company. Point is for Rock 105.9 to do the classic rock, classic album rock thing with the right approach. Not only those bands and songs, but include bands and songs that were thrown by Abrahams henchmen years ago. Not to bad mouth Abrahamas again. He has corrected past sins in many ways.

What would you all think if you heard 105.9 doing this kind of classic rock programming one day? Would you think: sounds great, but it will not last?
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Swiss:

I guess my vision of a Real Rock station is a real ass kicker, you know, one that is between the sounds of Posion, Kiss, Great White, Judas Priest, Ozzy, Dokken, etc. The harder and faster tempos, the better.
In the early 80's when Kiss released the "Creatures of the Night" Album, that whole string of tunes in that album was PURE ROCK, no bubble gum. Cuts like "I love it loud" and "War Machine" were great. This was not Heavy Metal, just pure hard rock.
I just can't consider "Rambin Man" from Greg Alman a rock song, it's more country sounding. Southern Rock has more of a lite county twang. It's medium sound rock, but it don't kick butt.
I've come to the conslusion that we all have our opinions of what Rock is, and it's hard, very hard to have a Rock station in a market that appeals to everyone that is a rocker. We're divided beteen thrash, heavy metal, alternative, plain hard rock (i.e. AC/DC) etc., that we can not have just 1 rock station that makes us all happy.

 

[SwissVol]

Well, to be painfully honest, your version of rock is the one that can appeal to a wide range of demos. My version, the one that is closest to the older underground rock stations, well, quite frankly that has aged that format right the heck out of the big money demos

The play lists I suggested would appeal to we late 40's and in my case mid 50 types. The one you mention can still pull in some thirties and even twenties aged listeners.

The time to do what I wanted to do has long passed I think. What I would want to program fits best on satellite radio.

I did listen to 97.1 and it sounded some deeper overall than 105.9.97.1 dug down and pulled in some older tracks, although I would not call some of those songs true deep tracks, but they were songs that 105.9 has not played too often of late. For that I give 97.1 lots of praise.