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robk
Guest
Heard today on 99.1....pirate that seems to be possibly based in the north Brandon area, playing hip hop and rap.....DJ on the air called the station "the underground" and made references to Brandon. Siganl is mono.
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DaLiMaH
Guest
I heard it also.. I heard the dj shouting out neighborhoods through out tampa though, so im sure he was just giving Brandon a shout out and not giving his location..
Its playing slowed down rap, with no censors, aswell as songs heard on 98.7 and 95-7...
I heard the dj say "Underground Radio, we play what the people really want to hear"
Its playing slowed down rap, with no censors, aswell as songs heard on 98.7 and 95-7...
I heard the dj say "Underground Radio, we play what the people really want to hear"
Pirates have to be careful in Florida as they can be prosecuted by local authorities and not neccessarily the FCC. Even though it's my belief that that law is unconstitutional because of Federal preemption laws, you would need a Philadelphia lawyer to fight it.... easier to turn over the Ramsey transmitter and start over....
Mono????? There is so much good stereo stuff out there now. There is no reason for a pirate to not be in stereo.... I know of one who has a better station than most small AM's do.
Get a copy of OTS DJ and scheduler and you have an instant station.
> I heard it also.. I heard the dj shouting out neighborhoods
> through out tampa though, so im sure he was just giving
> Brandon a shout out and not giving his location..
>
> Its playing slowed down rap, with no censors, aswell as
> songs heard on 98.7 and 95-7...
>
> I heard the dj say "Underground Radio, we play what the
> people really want to hear"
>
Mono????? There is so much good stereo stuff out there now. There is no reason for a pirate to not be in stereo.... I know of one who has a better station than most small AM's do.
Get a copy of OTS DJ and scheduler and you have an instant station.
> I heard it also.. I heard the dj shouting out neighborhoods
> through out tampa though, so im sure he was just giving
> Brandon a shout out and not giving his location..
>
> Its playing slowed down rap, with no censors, aswell as
> songs heard on 98.7 and 95-7...
>
> I heard the dj say "Underground Radio, we play what the
> people really want to hear"
>
R
robk
Guest
> I heard it also.. I heard the dj shouting out neighborhoods
> through out tampa though, so im sure he was just giving
> Brandon a shout out and not giving his location..
>
> Its playing slowed down rap, with no censors, aswell as
> songs heard on 98.7 and 95-7...
>
> I heard the dj say "Underground Radio, we play what the
> people really want to hear"
>
Yeah.....I revise what I said before......it's not coming from Brandon, it's coming from somewhere in the city of Tampa.......according to the DJ, they are located ''in the hood''
The Dj say's this is their 1st day/night on the air......say's they have recieved calls from all around Tampa......and now one from St. Pete.
must be running a lot of power....seems an easy call that it's 100 watts or better....maybe a lot better.
''Underground radio''
Somehow I have a feeling this is going to be big deal.....to the pirate and ''others''......h'mm can't imagine who the ''others'' would be.....
located right betwwen 98.7 and 99.5.......I can't imagine who would care....wink wink.
Rob
> through out tampa though, so im sure he was just giving
> Brandon a shout out and not giving his location..
>
> Its playing slowed down rap, with no censors, aswell as
> songs heard on 98.7 and 95-7...
>
> I heard the dj say "Underground Radio, we play what the
> people really want to hear"
>
Yeah.....I revise what I said before......it's not coming from Brandon, it's coming from somewhere in the city of Tampa.......according to the DJ, they are located ''in the hood''
The Dj say's this is their 1st day/night on the air......say's they have recieved calls from all around Tampa......and now one from St. Pete.
must be running a lot of power....seems an easy call that it's 100 watts or better....maybe a lot better.
''Underground radio''
Somehow I have a feeling this is going to be big deal.....to the pirate and ''others''......h'mm can't imagine who the ''others'' would be.....
located right betwwen 98.7 and 99.5.......I can't imagine who would care....wink wink.
Rob
Re: 99.1 pirate..HEY SBE
What is the current thinking on LPFM station having to be owned by non-profit organization? Can an individual own one if he adheres to the rules and operates as a non-comm? or does it HAVE to be a "committee" or "group"?
I would think this opens the LPFM notion to "Community" and "Educational"religous groups who already have ways to get stations on the air..and translators. Can LPFM have an unlimited number of translators? That could pose just as serious issue to the big power broadcasters with enough of them operating.
I would put an LPFM on the air here in the mountains in a heartbeat..I have a couple of good locations to cover most of the county, and could afford to operate it commercial free as a service to an area of my state that has one FM service with a HAAT of (minus) 200 feet..You can barely hear it in the lobby with a stiff breeze.
BUT do I have to be a GROUP? or a COMMITTEE? Why is it that an individual with a clean record can not own one? What is the thinking there?
BY the way..I have been "told" that a 1 watt stereo Broadcast Warehouse synth xmtr feeding two small 6 element yagis can cover a nice 15 mile radius with full quieting, and a loud signal..but to test THAT would be illegal without a valid FCC CP or license of course! NOBODY would ever attempt to test this arrangement..so it's, well it's only hearsay..what say you?
What is the current thinking on LPFM station having to be owned by non-profit organization? Can an individual own one if he adheres to the rules and operates as a non-comm? or does it HAVE to be a "committee" or "group"?
I would think this opens the LPFM notion to "Community" and "Educational"religous groups who already have ways to get stations on the air..and translators. Can LPFM have an unlimited number of translators? That could pose just as serious issue to the big power broadcasters with enough of them operating.
I would put an LPFM on the air here in the mountains in a heartbeat..I have a couple of good locations to cover most of the county, and could afford to operate it commercial free as a service to an area of my state that has one FM service with a HAAT of (minus) 200 feet..You can barely hear it in the lobby with a stiff breeze.
BUT do I have to be a GROUP? or a COMMITTEE? Why is it that an individual with a clean record can not own one? What is the thinking there?
BY the way..I have been "told" that a 1 watt stereo Broadcast Warehouse synth xmtr feeding two small 6 element yagis can cover a nice 15 mile radius with full quieting, and a loud signal..but to test THAT would be illegal without a valid FCC CP or license of course! NOBODY would ever attempt to test this arrangement..so it's, well it's only hearsay..what say you?
Re: 99.1 pirate..HEY SBE
It's easy enuf to organize a non profit corporation to own a LPFM. Make yourself the only officer. Chuck Harder did that with his for the people operation. He only caught IRS scrutiny because he stepped on a lot of the wrong toes. As long as you do not run commercials, you can have all the "sponsorship" you want. Look to your favorite NPR station to see what they get away with and you will see that with only a few exceptions, you can get sponsors for your programming. As long as you do all the things required of a radio station like have a working EAS box, do all the required paperwork and be sure to have your public file done nice and purty, you can pretty much do anything you want. I had heard that the recently departed "Gilligan" had a cool LPFM of his own somewhere in South Carolina If I recall correctly.
Yeah, the translator rules I dont think were meant for LPFM's but they werent prohibited, so there are now several LPFM's with translators that are more popular and in better locations than the original LPFM. Translators dont have to protect the 3rd adjacent like LPFM's do.... See, it pays for the NAB to have the best politicians in it's back pocket.
So, go for it. My bet is that it will have the best imaging of any LPFM anywhere.
> What is the current thinking on LPFM station having to be
> owned by non-profit organization? Can an individual own one
> if he adheres to the rules and operates as a non-comm? or
> does it HAVE to be a "committee" or "group"?
>
> I would think this opens the LPFM notion to "Community" and
> "Educational"religous groups who already have ways to get
> stations on the air..and translators. Can LPFM have an
> unlimited number of translators? That could pose just as
> serious issue to the big power broadcasters with enough of
> them operating.
>
> I would put an LPFM on the air here in the mountains in a
> heartbeat..I have a couple of good locations to cover most
> of the county, and could afford to operate it commercial
> free as a service to an area of my state that has one FM
> service with a HAAT of (minus) 200 feet..You can barely hear
> it in the lobby with a stiff breeze.
>
> BUT do I have to be a GROUP? or a COMMITTEE? Why is it
> that an individual with a clean record can not own one?
> What is the thinking there?
>
> BY the way..I have been "told" that a 1 watt stereo
> Broadcast Warehouse synth xmtr feeding two small 6 element
> yagis can cover a nice 15 mile radius with full quieting,
> and a loud signal..but to test THAT would be illegal without
> a valid FCC CP or license of course! NOBODY would ever
> attempt to test this arrangement..so it's, well it's only
> hearsay..what say you?
>
It's easy enuf to organize a non profit corporation to own a LPFM. Make yourself the only officer. Chuck Harder did that with his for the people operation. He only caught IRS scrutiny because he stepped on a lot of the wrong toes. As long as you do not run commercials, you can have all the "sponsorship" you want. Look to your favorite NPR station to see what they get away with and you will see that with only a few exceptions, you can get sponsors for your programming. As long as you do all the things required of a radio station like have a working EAS box, do all the required paperwork and be sure to have your public file done nice and purty, you can pretty much do anything you want. I had heard that the recently departed "Gilligan" had a cool LPFM of his own somewhere in South Carolina If I recall correctly.
Yeah, the translator rules I dont think were meant for LPFM's but they werent prohibited, so there are now several LPFM's with translators that are more popular and in better locations than the original LPFM. Translators dont have to protect the 3rd adjacent like LPFM's do.... See, it pays for the NAB to have the best politicians in it's back pocket.
So, go for it. My bet is that it will have the best imaging of any LPFM anywhere.
> What is the current thinking on LPFM station having to be
> owned by non-profit organization? Can an individual own one
> if he adheres to the rules and operates as a non-comm? or
> does it HAVE to be a "committee" or "group"?
>
> I would think this opens the LPFM notion to "Community" and
> "Educational"religous groups who already have ways to get
> stations on the air..and translators. Can LPFM have an
> unlimited number of translators? That could pose just as
> serious issue to the big power broadcasters with enough of
> them operating.
>
> I would put an LPFM on the air here in the mountains in a
> heartbeat..I have a couple of good locations to cover most
> of the county, and could afford to operate it commercial
> free as a service to an area of my state that has one FM
> service with a HAAT of (minus) 200 feet..You can barely hear
> it in the lobby with a stiff breeze.
>
> BUT do I have to be a GROUP? or a COMMITTEE? Why is it
> that an individual with a clean record can not own one?
> What is the thinking there?
>
> BY the way..I have been "told" that a 1 watt stereo
> Broadcast Warehouse synth xmtr feeding two small 6 element
> yagis can cover a nice 15 mile radius with full quieting,
> and a loud signal..but to test THAT would be illegal without
> a valid FCC CP or license of course! NOBODY would ever
> attempt to test this arrangement..so it's, well it's only
> hearsay..what say you?
>
F
Frank_Ferreri
Guest
Re: 99.1 pirate..HEY SBE
> It's easy enuf to organize a non profit corporation to own a
> LPFM. Make yourself the only officer. Chuck Harder did
> that with his for the people operation. He only caught IRS
> scrutiny because he stepped on a lot of the wrong toes. As
> long as you do not run commercials, you can have all the
> "sponsorship" you want. Look to your favorite NPR station
> to see what they get away with and you will see that with
> only a few exceptions, you can get sponsors for your
> programming. As long as you do all the things required of a
> radio station like have a working EAS box, do all the
> required paperwork and be sure to have your public file done
> nice and purty, you can pretty much do anything you want. I
> had heard that the recently departed "Gilligan" had a cool
> LPFM of his own somewhere in South Carolina If I recall
> correctly.
> Yeah, the translator rules I dont think were meant for
> LPFM's but they werent prohibited, so there are now several
> LPFM's with translators that are more popular and in better
> locations than the original LPFM. Translators dont have to
> protect the 3rd adjacent like LPFM's do.... See, it pays for
> the NAB to have the best politicians in it's back pocket.
> So, go for it. My bet is that it will have the best imaging
> of any LPFM anywhere.
>
>
>
>
>
> > What is the current thinking on LPFM station having to be
> > owned by non-profit organization? Can an individual own
> one
> > if he adheres to the rules and operates as a non-comm? or
>
> > does it HAVE to be a "committee" or "group"?
> >
> > I would think this opens the LPFM notion to "Community"
> and
> > "Educational"religous groups who already have ways to get
> > stations on the air..and translators. Can LPFM have an
> > unlimited number of translators? That could pose just as
> > serious issue to the big power broadcasters with enough of
>
> > them operating.
> >
> > I would put an LPFM on the air here in the mountains in a
> > heartbeat..I have a couple of good locations to cover most
>
> > of the county, and could afford to operate it commercial
> > free as a service to an area of my state that has one FM
> > service with a HAAT of (minus) 200 feet..You can barely
> hear
> > it in the lobby with a stiff breeze.
> >
> > BUT do I have to be a GROUP? or a COMMITTEE? Why is it
> > that an individual with a clean record can not own one?
> > What is the thinking there?
> >
> > BY the way..I have been "told" that a 1 watt stereo
> > Broadcast Warehouse synth xmtr feeding two small 6 element
>
> > yagis can cover a nice 15 mile radius with full quieting,
> > and a loud signal..but to test THAT would be illegal
> without
> > a valid FCC CP or license of course! NOBODY would ever
> > attempt to test this arrangement..so it's, well it's only
> > hearsay..what say you?
> >
>
SBE and Jeff...You two have taught me much about this LP thing. How would I go about acquiring one?? The link Jeff passed on for that Texas station really got my juices flowing!
> It's easy enuf to organize a non profit corporation to own a
> LPFM. Make yourself the only officer. Chuck Harder did
> that with his for the people operation. He only caught IRS
> scrutiny because he stepped on a lot of the wrong toes. As
> long as you do not run commercials, you can have all the
> "sponsorship" you want. Look to your favorite NPR station
> to see what they get away with and you will see that with
> only a few exceptions, you can get sponsors for your
> programming. As long as you do all the things required of a
> radio station like have a working EAS box, do all the
> required paperwork and be sure to have your public file done
> nice and purty, you can pretty much do anything you want. I
> had heard that the recently departed "Gilligan" had a cool
> LPFM of his own somewhere in South Carolina If I recall
> correctly.
> Yeah, the translator rules I dont think were meant for
> LPFM's but they werent prohibited, so there are now several
> LPFM's with translators that are more popular and in better
> locations than the original LPFM. Translators dont have to
> protect the 3rd adjacent like LPFM's do.... See, it pays for
> the NAB to have the best politicians in it's back pocket.
> So, go for it. My bet is that it will have the best imaging
> of any LPFM anywhere.
>
>
>
>
>
> > What is the current thinking on LPFM station having to be
> > owned by non-profit organization? Can an individual own
> one
> > if he adheres to the rules and operates as a non-comm? or
>
> > does it HAVE to be a "committee" or "group"?
> >
> > I would think this opens the LPFM notion to "Community"
> and
> > "Educational"religous groups who already have ways to get
> > stations on the air..and translators. Can LPFM have an
> > unlimited number of translators? That could pose just as
> > serious issue to the big power broadcasters with enough of
>
> > them operating.
> >
> > I would put an LPFM on the air here in the mountains in a
> > heartbeat..I have a couple of good locations to cover most
>
> > of the county, and could afford to operate it commercial
> > free as a service to an area of my state that has one FM
> > service with a HAAT of (minus) 200 feet..You can barely
> hear
> > it in the lobby with a stiff breeze.
> >
> > BUT do I have to be a GROUP? or a COMMITTEE? Why is it
> > that an individual with a clean record can not own one?
> > What is the thinking there?
> >
> > BY the way..I have been "told" that a 1 watt stereo
> > Broadcast Warehouse synth xmtr feeding two small 6 element
>
> > yagis can cover a nice 15 mile radius with full quieting,
> > and a loud signal..but to test THAT would be illegal
> without
> > a valid FCC CP or license of course! NOBODY would ever
> > attempt to test this arrangement..so it's, well it's only
> > hearsay..what say you?
> >
>
SBE and Jeff...You two have taught me much about this LP thing. How would I go about acquiring one?? The link Jeff passed on for that Texas station really got my juices flowing!
Re: 99.1 pirate..HEY SBE
You will probably have to wait for a filing window to open. My guess is they are waiting to see if the 3rd adjacent prohibition gets removed. So unless you can buy an existing CP that someone cant get on the air, you will be SOL till the next window.
> > It's easy enuf to organize a non profit corporation to own
> a
> > LPFM. Make yourself the only officer. Chuck Harder did
> > that with his for the people operation. He only caught
> IRS
> > scrutiny because he stepped on a lot of the wrong toes.
> As
> > long as you do not run commercials, you can have all the
> > "sponsorship" you want. Look to your favorite NPR station
>
> > to see what they get away with and you will see that with
> > only a few exceptions, you can get sponsors for your
> > programming. As long as you do all the things required of
> a
> > radio station like have a working EAS box, do all the
> > required paperwork and be sure to have your public file
> done
> > nice and purty, you can pretty much do anything you want.
> I
> > had heard that the recently departed "Gilligan" had a cool
>
> > LPFM of his own somewhere in South Carolina If I recall
> > correctly.
> > Yeah, the translator rules I dont think were meant for
> > LPFM's but they werent prohibited, so there are now
> several
> > LPFM's with translators that are more popular and in
> better
> > locations than the original LPFM. Translators dont have
> to
> > protect the 3rd adjacent like LPFM's do.... See, it pays
> for
> > the NAB to have the best politicians in it's back pocket.
> > So, go for it. My bet is that it will have the best
> imaging
> > of any LPFM anywhere.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > What is the current thinking on LPFM station having to
> be
> > > owned by non-profit organization? Can an individual own
>
> > one
> > > if he adheres to the rules and operates as a non-comm?
> or
> >
> > > does it HAVE to be a "committee" or "group"?
> > >
> > > I would think this opens the LPFM notion to "Community"
> > and
> > > "Educational"religous groups who already have ways to
> get
> > > stations on the air..and translators. Can LPFM have an
> > > unlimited number of translators? That could pose just
> as
> > > serious issue to the big power broadcasters with enough
> of
> >
> > > them operating.
> > >
> > > I would put an LPFM on the air here in the mountains in
> a
> > > heartbeat..I have a couple of good locations to cover
> most
> >
> > > of the county, and could afford to operate it commercial
>
> > > free as a service to an area of my state that has one FM
>
> > > service with a HAAT of (minus) 200 feet..You can barely
> > hear
> > > it in the lobby with a stiff breeze.
> > >
> > > BUT do I have to be a GROUP? or a COMMITTEE? Why is it
>
> > > that an individual with a clean record can not own one?
>
> > > What is the thinking there?
> > >
> > > BY the way..I have been "told" that a 1 watt stereo
> > > Broadcast Warehouse synth xmtr feeding two small 6
> element
> >
> > > yagis can cover a nice 15 mile radius with full
> quieting,
> > > and a loud signal..but to test THAT would be illegal
> > without
> > > a valid FCC CP or license of course! NOBODY would ever
> > > attempt to test this arrangement..so it's, well it's
> only
> > > hearsay..what say you?
> > >
> >
> SBE and Jeff...You two have taught me much about this LP
> thing. How would I go about acquiring one?? The link Jeff
> passed on for that Texas station really got my juices
> flowing!
>
You will probably have to wait for a filing window to open. My guess is they are waiting to see if the 3rd adjacent prohibition gets removed. So unless you can buy an existing CP that someone cant get on the air, you will be SOL till the next window.
> > It's easy enuf to organize a non profit corporation to own
> a
> > LPFM. Make yourself the only officer. Chuck Harder did
> > that with his for the people operation. He only caught
> IRS
> > scrutiny because he stepped on a lot of the wrong toes.
> As
> > long as you do not run commercials, you can have all the
> > "sponsorship" you want. Look to your favorite NPR station
>
> > to see what they get away with and you will see that with
> > only a few exceptions, you can get sponsors for your
> > programming. As long as you do all the things required of
> a
> > radio station like have a working EAS box, do all the
> > required paperwork and be sure to have your public file
> done
> > nice and purty, you can pretty much do anything you want.
> I
> > had heard that the recently departed "Gilligan" had a cool
>
> > LPFM of his own somewhere in South Carolina If I recall
> > correctly.
> > Yeah, the translator rules I dont think were meant for
> > LPFM's but they werent prohibited, so there are now
> several
> > LPFM's with translators that are more popular and in
> better
> > locations than the original LPFM. Translators dont have
> to
> > protect the 3rd adjacent like LPFM's do.... See, it pays
> for
> > the NAB to have the best politicians in it's back pocket.
> > So, go for it. My bet is that it will have the best
> imaging
> > of any LPFM anywhere.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > What is the current thinking on LPFM station having to
> be
> > > owned by non-profit organization? Can an individual own
>
> > one
> > > if he adheres to the rules and operates as a non-comm?
> or
> >
> > > does it HAVE to be a "committee" or "group"?
> > >
> > > I would think this opens the LPFM notion to "Community"
> > and
> > > "Educational"religous groups who already have ways to
> get
> > > stations on the air..and translators. Can LPFM have an
> > > unlimited number of translators? That could pose just
> as
> > > serious issue to the big power broadcasters with enough
> of
> >
> > > them operating.
> > >
> > > I would put an LPFM on the air here in the mountains in
> a
> > > heartbeat..I have a couple of good locations to cover
> most
> >
> > > of the county, and could afford to operate it commercial
>
> > > free as a service to an area of my state that has one FM
>
> > > service with a HAAT of (minus) 200 feet..You can barely
> > hear
> > > it in the lobby with a stiff breeze.
> > >
> > > BUT do I have to be a GROUP? or a COMMITTEE? Why is it
>
> > > that an individual with a clean record can not own one?
>
> > > What is the thinking there?
> > >
> > > BY the way..I have been "told" that a 1 watt stereo
> > > Broadcast Warehouse synth xmtr feeding two small 6
> element
> >
> > > yagis can cover a nice 15 mile radius with full
> quieting,
> > > and a loud signal..but to test THAT would be illegal
> > without
> > > a valid FCC CP or license of course! NOBODY would ever
> > > attempt to test this arrangement..so it's, well it's
> only
> > > hearsay..what say you?
> > >
> >
> SBE and Jeff...You two have taught me much about this LP
> thing. How would I go about acquiring one?? The link Jeff
> passed on for that Texas station really got my juices
> flowing!
>
M
M_Serio
Guest
Hey Frank...an idea.
Frank,
(1) Before playing the waiting game for an available LPFM frequency that may or may not be available in this crowded market...
and
(2) Spending all the money for a start-up operation. You are taking all the risks of failure...
Go another route to get the "station" up and running quickly.
Consider buying bulk time from anyone of the several stations around town.
Of course there's our favorite whipping boys.. WTAN... but also look at WPSO/WXYB (I think those are the calls)... maybe even 1040.
Buy just an hour or two on a weekend... secure enough "sponsor" support to pay for it. Create your format clocks, and programming. Honestly, you could probably have it up and on the air in a month. Your biggest hurdle will be securing advertising support. By using an existing facility, you eliminate all the start up costs. It's manageable... (a couple of hours on a Saturday is a heck of a lot easier that 24/7) plus, you can get a better feel for market/advertsising support for the whole project without incurring the liabilities. If it doesn't work... walk away at the end of the "schedule." If it flies.. then look at an LPFM.
BTW... Now with an FM Spanish formatted station, it makes no sense for 680, 820/760, 1300, & 1550 to all be beating their heads against the wall for nothing. One of these guys should get a clue.
They can't possibly be making more now than if they just sold bulk time. Forget ratings, at this point they ought to be looking to keep the lights on and the bills paid.
BTW... in November 1992, the then owner of 1500 WPSO leased the entire station(sunrise to sunset) to the Greek Brothers Broadcasting Corporation for an amazingly low monthly fee. They eventually bought the station.
Could the same thing be done again ????
Good Luck !!!
Mike
Frank,
(1) Before playing the waiting game for an available LPFM frequency that may or may not be available in this crowded market...
and
(2) Spending all the money for a start-up operation. You are taking all the risks of failure...
Go another route to get the "station" up and running quickly.
Consider buying bulk time from anyone of the several stations around town.
Of course there's our favorite whipping boys.. WTAN... but also look at WPSO/WXYB (I think those are the calls)... maybe even 1040.
Buy just an hour or two on a weekend... secure enough "sponsor" support to pay for it. Create your format clocks, and programming. Honestly, you could probably have it up and on the air in a month. Your biggest hurdle will be securing advertising support. By using an existing facility, you eliminate all the start up costs. It's manageable... (a couple of hours on a Saturday is a heck of a lot easier that 24/7) plus, you can get a better feel for market/advertsising support for the whole project without incurring the liabilities. If it doesn't work... walk away at the end of the "schedule." If it flies.. then look at an LPFM.
BTW... Now with an FM Spanish formatted station, it makes no sense for 680, 820/760, 1300, & 1550 to all be beating their heads against the wall for nothing. One of these guys should get a clue.
They can't possibly be making more now than if they just sold bulk time. Forget ratings, at this point they ought to be looking to keep the lights on and the bills paid.
BTW... in November 1992, the then owner of 1500 WPSO leased the entire station(sunrise to sunset) to the Greek Brothers Broadcasting Corporation for an amazingly low monthly fee. They eventually bought the station.
Could the same thing be done again ????
Good Luck !!!
Mike
F
Frank_Ferreri
Guest
Re: Hey Frank...an idea.
> Frank,
>
> (1) Before playing the waiting game for an available LPFM
> frequency that may or may not be available in this crowded
> market...
>
> and
>
> (2) Spending all the money for a start-up operation. You are
> taking all the risks of failure...
>
> Go another route to get the "station" up and running
> quickly.
>
> Consider buying bulk time from anyone of the several
> stations around town.
>
> Of course there's our favorite whipping boys.. WTAN... but
> also look at WPSO/WXYB (I think those are the calls)...
> maybe even 1040.
>
> Buy just an hour or two on a weekend... secure enough
> "sponsor" support to pay for it. Create your format clocks,
> and programming. Honestly, you could probably have it up
> and on the air in a month. Your biggest hurdle will be
> securing advertising support. By using an existing
> facility, you eliminate all the start up costs. It's
> manageable... (a couple of hours on a Saturday is a heck of
> a lot easier that 24/7) plus, you can get a better feel for
> market/advertsising support for the whole project without
> incurring the liabilities. If it doesn't work... walk away
> at the end of the "schedule." If it flies.. then look at an
> LPFM.
>
> BTW... Now with an FM Spanish formatted station, it makes no
> sense for 680, 820/760, 1300, & 1550 to all be beating their
> heads against the wall for nothing. One of these guys
> should get a clue.
>
> They can't possibly be making more now than if they just
> sold bulk time. Forget ratings, at this point they ought to
> be looking to keep the lights on and the bills paid.
>
> BTW... in November 1992, the then owner of 1500 WPSO leased
> the entire station(sunrise to sunset) to the Greek Brothers
> Broadcasting Corporation for an amazingly low monthly fee.
> They eventually bought the station.
>
> Could the same thing be done again ????
>
> Good Luck !!!
>
> Mike
>
Great to hear from you, Mike. Excellent thoughts! You may remember I brokered WLVU-AM for a number of years. In fact, the Greek brothers who bought most of the air time from me did, in fact, buy WPSO after "leasing" that station around the clock. Your thinking is very sound and I appreciate your input.
> Frank,
>
> (1) Before playing the waiting game for an available LPFM
> frequency that may or may not be available in this crowded
> market...
>
> and
>
> (2) Spending all the money for a start-up operation. You are
> taking all the risks of failure...
>
> Go another route to get the "station" up and running
> quickly.
>
> Consider buying bulk time from anyone of the several
> stations around town.
>
> Of course there's our favorite whipping boys.. WTAN... but
> also look at WPSO/WXYB (I think those are the calls)...
> maybe even 1040.
>
> Buy just an hour or two on a weekend... secure enough
> "sponsor" support to pay for it. Create your format clocks,
> and programming. Honestly, you could probably have it up
> and on the air in a month. Your biggest hurdle will be
> securing advertising support. By using an existing
> facility, you eliminate all the start up costs. It's
> manageable... (a couple of hours on a Saturday is a heck of
> a lot easier that 24/7) plus, you can get a better feel for
> market/advertsising support for the whole project without
> incurring the liabilities. If it doesn't work... walk away
> at the end of the "schedule." If it flies.. then look at an
> LPFM.
>
> BTW... Now with an FM Spanish formatted station, it makes no
> sense for 680, 820/760, 1300, & 1550 to all be beating their
> heads against the wall for nothing. One of these guys
> should get a clue.
>
> They can't possibly be making more now than if they just
> sold bulk time. Forget ratings, at this point they ought to
> be looking to keep the lights on and the bills paid.
>
> BTW... in November 1992, the then owner of 1500 WPSO leased
> the entire station(sunrise to sunset) to the Greek Brothers
> Broadcasting Corporation for an amazingly low monthly fee.
> They eventually bought the station.
>
> Could the same thing be done again ????
>
> Good Luck !!!
>
> Mike
>
Great to hear from you, Mike. Excellent thoughts! You may remember I brokered WLVU-AM for a number of years. In fact, the Greek brothers who bought most of the air time from me did, in fact, buy WPSO after "leasing" that station around the clock. Your thinking is very sound and I appreciate your input.
Z
zaxxons1
Guest
The end of Chuck Harder?
>
> > > LPFM. Make yourself the only officer. Chuck Harder
Something significant, perhaps tragic, has apparently happened to Chuck Harder.
Today, I was listening to Talk Star Radio Network, and heard Chuck's broadcast ... from 1993.
No kidding!
This is rather bizarre ... why in the world would TSRN be running a 12-year-old Chuck Harder show? And how does this square with the fact that Chuck has not been on the air for a week and a half?
Yes, yes, yes ... TSRN says that Chuck is "taking time off," and that everything's hunky-dory. But if that's so, why isn't the network telling its listeners when Chuck is coming back on the air? Why doesn't it explain what it means when it says "taking time off"? Time off for what?
I do know that, on November 14, Chuck said that he "wasn't exactly very well," and that he couldn't sleep the night before. This whole scenario is eerily similar to early 2002, when Chuck suffered at least one major stroke and - as he admitted later on - was close to death.
Back then, Chuck was off the air for about a month; Cliff Kincaid filled in for him and did a credible job.
I hope posters to this "blog" can shed some light on this growing mystery. Perhaps there's nothing to all this; perhaps Chuck is really taking a long-deserved vacation.
Or perhaps it's much, much, much more serious.
I suspect we'll find out in time.
>
> > > LPFM. Make yourself the only officer. Chuck Harder
Something significant, perhaps tragic, has apparently happened to Chuck Harder.
Today, I was listening to Talk Star Radio Network, and heard Chuck's broadcast ... from 1993.
No kidding!
This is rather bizarre ... why in the world would TSRN be running a 12-year-old Chuck Harder show? And how does this square with the fact that Chuck has not been on the air for a week and a half?
Yes, yes, yes ... TSRN says that Chuck is "taking time off," and that everything's hunky-dory. But if that's so, why isn't the network telling its listeners when Chuck is coming back on the air? Why doesn't it explain what it means when it says "taking time off"? Time off for what?
I do know that, on November 14, Chuck said that he "wasn't exactly very well," and that he couldn't sleep the night before. This whole scenario is eerily similar to early 2002, when Chuck suffered at least one major stroke and - as he admitted later on - was close to death.
Back then, Chuck was off the air for about a month; Cliff Kincaid filled in for him and did a credible job.
I hope posters to this "blog" can shed some light on this growing mystery. Perhaps there's nothing to all this; perhaps Chuck is really taking a long-deserved vacation.
Or perhaps it's much, much, much more serious.
I suspect we'll find out in time.
You guys not only beat me, but shame me. (I am the one who normally discovers all the new pirates.) Good discovery. I wonder if he knows how close the FCC field office is. Equate this to speeding drunk past the Highway Patrol station whilst honking the horn, or eating a a Philly cheese steak and fries while the doctor is monitoring your heartbeat.
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Terry L Krueger
Clearwater, Florida
USA
27.55.83 N, 82.46.08 W
Visit my "Florida Low Power Radio Stations" at:
http://home.earthlink.net/~tocobagadx/flortis.html
or:
http://www.geocities.com/geigertree/flortis.html
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> Heard today on 99.1....pirate that seems to be possibly
> based in the north Brandon area, playing hip hop and
> rap.....DJ on the air called the station "the underground"
> and made references to Brandon. Siganl is mono.
>
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Terry L Krueger
Clearwater, Florida
USA
27.55.83 N, 82.46.08 W
Visit my "Florida Low Power Radio Stations" at:
http://home.earthlink.net/~tocobagadx/flortis.html
or:
http://www.geocities.com/geigertree/flortis.html
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> Heard today on 99.1....pirate that seems to be possibly
> based in the north Brandon area, playing hip hop and
> rap.....DJ on the air called the station "the underground"
> and made references to Brandon. Siganl is mono.
>
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