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Rick Rose 2.0
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I see Cumulus has found a solution the the signal issues 99x has on 99.1 as opposed to its time on 97.9fm. They are looking to put 99x onto 98.9 fm at a full 250 watts according to an application just filed.
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BRENT said:
According to radio-locator with the CP WSPA’s signal will stop before Gainesville and Athens.
http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WSPA&service=FM&status=C&hours=U*
The Tallapoosa Station will limit this to somewhere around the Six Flags area. IIRC the rules on translators allow other stations to interfere with the translator, but the translator can not interfere with an established station.
*Sorry I did not have time to get the FCC coverage maps.
WWGA is in Tallapoosa (1850W/A) and WNGH is in Chatsworth (only 420W/C3, but 527m HAAT). The 60dBu contour of the Tallapoosa station gets out to Temple and Carrollton, probably far enough west (although fringe listeners will have a fit). The Chatsworth station gets as close as Jasper and Calhoun. The contour for the translator gets out to Austell, with slight nulls SW (probably to protect WWGA) and SE (why?)
The FCC lists the calls of the translator as W256BO, same as current. Wouldn't those calls have to change to W255xx?
(Ref. http://transition.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/f...&slat2=&NS=N&dlon2=&mlon2=&slon2=&EW=W&size=9 )
The FCC lists the calls of the translator as W256BO, same as current. Wouldn't those calls have to change to W255xx?
(Ref. http://transition.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/f...&slat2=&NS=N&dlon2=&mlon2=&slon2=&EW=W&size=9 )
I guess that will mean bye bye to the Eastide pirate on 98.9.
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Rick Rose 2.0
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99.1 was limited to 99 watts due to 88.5 but at 98.9 the translator can use the full 250 watts that a full power translator can use. It will make the signal stronger across the metro and be similar to 97.9fm. I am not sure why Cumulus did not try for 98.9 in the first place.
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Rick Rose 2.0 said:
They probably hoped there would be no objection from the 10.6 mhz spaced station when applying for the 99.1 channel. A hail Mary of sorts hopimng to get a frequency that matches the moniker of the station. Can;t blame 'em for trying. I know of at least one instance of a 10.6mhz spacing, in Tampa. 104.7 and 94.1, and they got a waiver before the stations were co-owned. Last time I was in town, I tried to find the slightest hint fo a harmonic and there was none. Not sure, but I don't think this is really an issue for modern FM receivers. 98.9 will be better for them anyway as they'll have much less co-channel interference from Macon.
I bet that on Summer mornings like....today, 98.9 in Spartanburg will be stepping all over 99X once at 99.7 then gone then 99.7HD97.9and 98.9
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you might not know that both charlotte, nc and jacksonville, fl have a larger population that atlanta.
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0763098.html
yes, i know. that's only the atlanta city limits, not the metro area. LOL ;D
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0763098.html
yes, i know. that's only the atlanta city limits, not the metro area. LOL ;D
Yes Atlanta was and is screwed by the lack of signals (AM and FM). Part of the problem was in the late 1950's early 1960's when the FM allocations dished out, Atlanta was "second tier" city. IIRC Birmingham was as big if not bigger. Even 94.1 and 101.5 are COL to Cobb county cities. The explosive growth of Atlanta's airport made it an ideal "headquarter or regional office" city. As for the City's population, a bunch of incorporated towns around Atlanta got the population growth (explosion), because Atlanta was "hemmed" in. Some of the established AM broadcasters in the early 1960's (not just in Atlanta but nationwide) did not really go after the FM signals, I guess because of the large electric bills and expenses. I was told by and engineer that if you wanted a new AM station in the early 1960's if you "took" a FM too it would "help". I started at WDBL Springfield TN. that traded a 100KW signal 101.1 for 94.3 @ 3KW sometime in the early 1960's. They wanted to save $$ and besides "nobody listens to FM"* which was true until FM came "free" on most car radio's starting around 1980.
Thankfully true because I got to "learn live" on the air.
Thankfully true because I got to "learn live" on the air.
And now look...Atlanta is #7 in the country in population (one rank bigger than Philadelphia). Only Houston, Dallas, San Francisco, Chicago, Los Angeles, and New York City are bigger. Atlanta is one huge metro area! The number of 100kw stations I believe has something to do with what our population status was in the 60s. I believe it has more to do with geography. It has a lot to do with where we are next to our adjacent cities surrounding us. Atlanta is located in a less densely populated part of the country. Whereas, northeastern cities' stations can only go up to a certain power and tower height because there are so many stations and there are so many surrounding cities.
BRENT said:
IIRC some of the original FM allocations (1950's) were based on the last Census they had 1950!. This is the Federal Government after all.
A major factor in Atlanta's growth was how it handled the Civil Rights issue compared to other cities, namely Birmingham. Birmingham with its huge natural resources (coal) owned primarily by northern industrialists was posed to be the lead city in the South. New Orleans was already on its slow slide downward thanks largely to corrupt political leadership.
Thanks in no small measure to the influence of Robert Woodruff at Coke, white leaders in Atlanta treated Civil Rights leaders and supporters with a level of respect and dignity not witnessed in most other Southern cities. Industries up north were moving south by the droves...to find cheaper labor and better weather and they wanted to do business where the leadership seemed to have a more progressive futuristic outlook.
Granted, population was also a factor in how many FMs the city got but those other cities comparable in size didnt have a 50,000 watt clear Channel AM that dominated the market like WSB did. Nashville had two but both were owned by large wealthy insurance companies who had WSM and WLAC more to promote the insurance company than to make money like Cox insisted WSB must. In Atlanta, where you had one AM that was the only one that covered the market even way back then, both day and night, it was considered foolish thinking that an AM would add a FM to take them on. It was hard enough to make it on AM with WSB's 50% market share plus they had the big newspapers and TV station. Lots of $$$. Meanwhile in the other cities, the AMs were all much more comparable in coverage and therefore each had more economic success and could invest in FMs or keep the ones they had going til the medium was accepted by the public.
Thanks in no small measure to the influence of Robert Woodruff at Coke, white leaders in Atlanta treated Civil Rights leaders and supporters with a level of respect and dignity not witnessed in most other Southern cities. Industries up north were moving south by the droves...to find cheaper labor and better weather and they wanted to do business where the leadership seemed to have a more progressive futuristic outlook.
Granted, population was also a factor in how many FMs the city got but those other cities comparable in size didnt have a 50,000 watt clear Channel AM that dominated the market like WSB did. Nashville had two but both were owned by large wealthy insurance companies who had WSM and WLAC more to promote the insurance company than to make money like Cox insisted WSB must. In Atlanta, where you had one AM that was the only one that covered the market even way back then, both day and night, it was considered foolish thinking that an AM would add a FM to take them on. It was hard enough to make it on AM with WSB's 50% market share plus they had the big newspapers and TV station. Lots of $$$. Meanwhile in the other cities, the AMs were all much more comparable in coverage and therefore each had more economic success and could invest in FMs or keep the ones they had going til the medium was accepted by the public.
RadioDoogie said:
You think things are messed up now just wait until the "mega" cities happen. Part of one of them is suppose to Chattanooga, Atlanta and Macon. Then Atlanta will get their "C"s too. LOL!
Art is correct about Civil rights. Birmingham had the black Church bombing which killed several children, a very sad part of the south's history.
Art is correct about Civil rights. Birmingham had the black Church bombing which killed several children, a very sad part of the south's history.
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