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A better Jack?

C

chitchatjf

Everyone's complain about Jack 101.1 is that the took all the annoucers away and just jumped in.

Suppose they kept ALL the annoncers from the old CBS-FM and just say We're jacking it up". The oldies from the 60s and 70s would be blended in with the 1500 or so jack tunes.

Would folks have been more receptive to THAT brand of Jack?
 
People were angry with Jack for firing the jocks and dumping the format.

Prior to that the station was evolving. An accelerated evolution of CBS-FM probably would not have been a major problem.


> Everyone's complain about Jack 101.1 is that the took all
> the annoucers away and just jumped in.
>
> Suppose they kept ALL the annoncers from the old CBS-FM and
> just say We're jacking it up". The oldies from the 60s and
> 70s would be blended in with the 1500 or so jack tunes.
>
> Would folks have been more receptive to THAT brand of Jack?
>
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> People were angry with Jack for firing the jocks and dumping
> the format.
>
> Prior to that the station was evolving. An accelerated
> evolution of CBS-FM probably would not have been a major
> problem.

Well, it is what it is. Jack is on 101.1 and the jocks are gone. CBS Radio won't change that. Its a new radio concept. Tons of songs with little clutter and an attitude. Obviously, a reason why WCBS FM Jack 101.1 isn't doing well is because of the station it replaced.

In response to peppertree's comments, is I don't think "an accelerated evolution" of CBS FM would work. The music would be too "new" for some of their listeners. Just my 2 cents. I like the idea though, but CBS Radio must have wanted to start off with a clean slate.

>
> > Everyone's complain about Jack 101.1 is that the took all
> > the annoucers away and just jumped in.
> >
> > Suppose they kept ALL the annoncers from the old CBS-FM
> and
> > just say We're jacking it up". The oldies from the 60s and
>
> > 70s would be blended in with the 1500 or so jack tunes.
> >
> > Would folks have been more receptive to THAT brand of
> Jack?
> >
>
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I don't think it does well for several reasons... its too "suburban" sounding of a station. I listen in and its the kind of station I'd expect to hear travelling across the midwest, not in NYC. It also doesn't give me the information I need as a commuter... like frequent traffic, weather and news! But mostly I just think that their music is played by too many other stations and the slice of the pie is limited to begin with...

They have to face it... Everyone, even people who weren't oldies fans, knew CBS-FM... it was a gold standard, true heritage and Jack-FM is more like a cheap plastic knockoff of the same frequency and New Yorker's aren't buying into it.

> > People were angry with Jack for firing the jocks and
> dumping
> > the format.
> >
> > Prior to that the station was evolving. An accelerated
> > evolution of CBS-FM probably would not have been a major
> > problem.
>
> Well, it is what it is. Jack is on 101.1 and the jocks are
> gone. CBS Radio won't change that. Its a new radio concept.
> Tons of songs with little clutter and an attitude.
> Obviously, a reason why WCBS FM Jack 101.1 isn't doing well
> is because of the station it replaced.
>
> In response to peppertree's comments, is I don't think "an
> accelerated evolution" of CBS FM would work. The music would
> be too "new" for some of their listeners. Just my 2 cents. I
> like the idea though, but CBS Radio must have wanted to
> start off with a clean slate.
>
> >
> > > Everyone's complain about Jack 101.1 is that the took
> all
> > > the annoucers away and just jumped in.
> > >
> > > Suppose they kept ALL the annoncers from the old CBS-FM
> > and
> > > just say We're jacking it up". The oldies from the 60s
> and
> >
> > > 70s would be blended in with the 1500 or so jack tunes.
> > >
> > > Would folks have been more receptive to THAT brand of
> > Jack?
> > >
> >
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> I don't think it does well for several reasons... its too
> "suburban" sounding of a station. I listen in and its the
> kind of station I'd expect to hear travelling across the
> midwest, not in NYC. It also doesn't give me the
> information I need as a commuter... like frequent traffic,
> weather and news! But mostly I just think that their music
> is played by too many other stations and the slice of the
> pie is limited to begin with...

True, but obviously there are other choices for information you need. I think Jack may do better if it starts to add jocks. The novelty will wear off.

The flip from Oldies to some other format on WCBS FM was bound to happen someday, so no matter what, the outcome probably wouldn't have been good, so its a loose loose situation.


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Re: A better Jack? Suburban?

I think that suburban listeners outnumber city listeners in the area. And that would be so, even if you eliminate other urban areas such as Newark. What is wrong with an all metropolitan area suburban station? An added reason to play to suburban people is that they probably spend more hours in their car. It is wrong to assume that a resident of the city, especially Manhattan even has a car. And many in the city only drive on the weekend.

The comment about the Midwest is a disconnect. The suburbs in the area are not like the Midwest at all.

By the way, people in Dallas and Texas (the home of Jack) consider themselves in the Southwest, not the Midwest.



> I don't think it does well for several reasons... its too
> "suburban" sounding of a station. I listen in and its the
> kind of station I'd expect to hear travelling across the
> midwest, not in NYC. <P ID="signature">______________
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Re: A better Jack? Suburban?

> By the way, people in Dallas and Texas (the home of Jack)
> consider themselves in the Southwest, not the Midwest.

How is Dallas, Texas considered (by you) the home of JACK?
 
Re: A better Jack? Suburban?

I thought that the programmers of Jack were in Dallas. Am I wrong?

> > By the way, people in Dallas and Texas (the home of Jack)
> > consider themselves in the Southwest, not the Midwest.
>
> How is Dallas, Texas considered (by you) the home of JACK?
>
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Re: A better Jack? Suburban?

> I thought that the programmers of Jack were in Dallas. Am I
> wrong?

Um, yeah! Kurt Johnson (The Infi*sorry* CBS Radio VP of JACK programming is the PD of JACK in Dallas). But, every JACK has a PD and staff in their own city and remember not all JACKs are run by CBS. ABC Radio's JACK on satellite is HQ'd in Dallas (as are all the ABC Radio satellite channels, I believe.)
 
Re: A better Jack? Suburban?

> > I thought that the programmers of Jack were in Dallas. Am
> I
> > wrong?
>
> Um, yeah! Kurt Johnson (The Infi*sorry* CBS Radio VP of
> JACK programming is the PD of JACK in Dallas). But, every
> JACK has a PD and staff in their own city and remember not
> all JACKs are run by CBS. ABC Radio's JACK on satellite is
> HQ'd in Dallas (as are all the ABC Radio satellite channels,
> I believe.)
>

Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but I thought that www.jack.fm is based in New York. And wasn't that the first US based Jack?
 
Re: A better Jack? Suburban?

> Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but I thought that www.jack.fm
> is based in New York. And wasn't that the first US based
> Jack?

Yes and yes. It still is (last I checked outside). But that wasn't the question...was it?

Confused,

CJ
 
Re: A better Jack? Suburban?

you missed the point... the sound of the station is what I'd expect to hear in smaller markets on a drive across the US, not here in NYC. I wasn't pin-pointing the midwest, nor did I say the midwest was home to Jack. I don't give a rats @$$ where jack's originated, it just isn't a good sound for the New York area.<P ID="signature">______________
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