catfish said:
OK, how about 52 watts? ;D
Yo, catfish (with a "c")...what about the older yellow (CCA?) rig with the "KDOT"
sticker at the top--is it gone or otherwise inop?
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A day in the life of a lamptimer
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OK, how about 52 watts? ;D
Yo, catfish (with a "c")...what about the older yellow (CCA?) rig with the "KDOT"
sticker at the top--is it gone or otherwise inop?
catfish said:
Let us, then, calculate how many toasters we need in parallel to loss down even the full 5kw to 52 watts. It can't be that many.
One toaster at 1500 watts plus derating for continuous duty, 750 watts. Seems like we'd start out at six or seven of such "type-accepted"
toasters, and let the lamptimer operate a bigger contactor for pulilng in that many toasters at once.
Then we'd measure antenna current calculated to 52 watts and adjust toaster loading to achieve that level.
If the toasters were all one/two slice it would be even easier. Oh, and maybe a fan would be appropriate.
Why-n-the heck is type acceptance of so much import when iboc-type emission is permitted on AM!
Loading down is NOT going to result in any spurs, in particular, as "upstream adjustments" of power levels might well,
dependng on parameters.
here it 'tis.. yes if there was an IBOC capable transmitter at the site it could do IBOC. The transmitter that is on the air cannot be modified for IBOC and it was the replacement for the SX series of AM transmitters which could not run at that low of a power level and stay in the NRSC2 mask and be FCC compliant. The CCA 5 is gone from the building and had not been turned on since the Gates 5 was installed. To make the investment for IBOC for 1440 does not make any logical sense at this time. FM is a different story but every single FM transmitter has to be replaced to do HD for FM and most everyone in Phoenix on FM is in HD. For AM it's KFYI, KTAR, KGME, KOY, 1580, KMVP if they are still on. AM you have to take the bandwidth down for the analog and it does not sound too good for the many who have no HD in their car or home.
catfish said:
Hey, we have an engineer who understands--and admits--that I-CRAP is, well, crap.
Thank you catfish (with a "c")!
Now if you can just convince the likes of Tom Ray, Glynn Walden...
BTW, Lumberyard 1440 sounds pretty good on my old AM stereo radio in wideband mode.
This morning at 9:31 a good ol' good one fades and...nothing! Dead air for about
six minutes. Nothing but carrier. (Booting the automation PC in the KAZG closet?)
At 9:37 programming returns and it starts with...now don't get ahead of me here...
the legal ID jingle! Now why can't they do that at sign-on and sign-off? :
six minutes. Nothing but carrier. (Booting the automation PC in the KAZG closet?)
At 9:37 programming returns and it starts with...now don't get ahead of me here...
the legal ID jingle! Now why can't they do that at sign-on and sign-off? :
Tom Wells said:
Why not? There's Toaster Talk...might as well be Toaster Transmitters! We've run this scenario through the Akbarizer 3000 computer and give it the Seal of Good Fez Approval for Lumberyard 14~Forty. Now all that's left is for Gumpdusky to renegotiate the Goldminers' contract to allow a third shift. hmmmm... imagine how much sooner we'd get to 24/7 status with one of those four slice toasters
Looks like Lumberyard 1440 is finally in compliance--lamptimer style*--with the
October monthly SR/SS times, as tonight's sign off carrier dump was at 6:03:09.
(I figure the term "sign off" should be limited to a legit one, where you at least
do a legal ID.)
*: The lamptimer had been over 4:30 on the late side, it's now a bit over 3:00, but
still drifting :11 every 24 hours. Maybe it would make a good case study--on how
not to do things--for the time geeks at the NIST in Boulder.
October monthly SR/SS times, as tonight's sign off carrier dump was at 6:03:09.
(I figure the term "sign off" should be limited to a legit one, where you at least
do a legal ID.)
*: The lamptimer had been over 4:30 on the late side, it's now a bit over 3:00, but
still drifting :11 every 24 hours. Maybe it would make a good case study--on how
not to do things--for the time geeks at the NIST in Boulder.
Sourcing the parts in order for a CE worth their weight in 60/40 rosin-cored solder to engineer into usefulness might be a bit of a challenge.oldiesfan6479 said:
Perhaps a little assistance from the web might be useful:
http://www.neufeld.newton.ks.us/electronics/?p=638
Glad to be a small part of the insanity. ;D
Overheard in a phone call between KAZG management and KAWC management...
KAZG: "Our lamptimer can beat up your lamptimer!"
KAWC: "Oh yeah? But can it make coffee?"
KAZG: "Well no. But it drifts more than yours! Coffee, huh? Even decaf?
I'm trying to cut down on caffeine."
KAWC: "Any brand, any type. We use Sanka. Gooooood coffee! I appreciate it
and good night."
KAZG: "I see the first run Andy Griffith episodes have finally made it to Yuma." ;D
KAZG: "Our lamptimer can beat up your lamptimer!"
KAWC: "Oh yeah? But can it make coffee?"
KAZG: "Well no. But it drifts more than yours! Coffee, huh? Even decaf?
I'm trying to cut down on caffeine."
KAWC: "Any brand, any type. We use Sanka. Gooooood coffee! I appreciate it
and good night."
KAZG: "I see the first run Andy Griffith episodes have finally made it to Yuma." ;D
catfish said:
I totally believe you catfish since you're much more knowledgeable in this field than me, but what about all this evidence showing that the Goldminers at 1440 are capable of broadcasting at night at the reduced power? Remember all last winter when KAZG was broadcasting at reduced power at something around 50 watts every morning beginning at 6:00 A.M. until full daytime power-up? Are you saying then that this was in violation of FCC regulations since the Gates 5KW is not type accepted by the FCC to run at 50 watts? I can't believe Sandusky would blatantly violate FCC rules and regulations like that.
This doesn't even raise the issue of the two nights earlier this year in April when the Lumberyard was broadcasting all night long with no commercials and no legal ID. Those nights were so enjoyable that we'll let it slide! ;D
Wasting all of the creative juices that caused this thread to come into existence, not to mention the brain cells destroyed in an effort to document for posterity the ill effects of a lamptimer?Dr. Akbar said:After reading about alternate ways to power up, down, on and off, Nurse Jeff and I are wondering if a new thread is in order: A Day In The Life Of A Mr Coffee Timer :
Shocking that you'd even consider this, Doc! ;D
asugeorge1 said:
I don't know if it's 52, 490, 500, or somewhere in between, but this morning at 6:12
Lumberyard 1440 was on the air at some sort of (reduced) PSRA or night power.
Only Gumpdusky knows for sure how many wattages they were using, but they're not
telling! What say you, insider catfish (with a "c")?
BTW, at 6:29:45 KAZG went up to 5 kw. That's about the third reset of the lamptimer
since Friday, but hey, it's the closest to real time they've been in a long while!
asugeorge1 said:
asugeo--you forgot to bracket the above sentence with "sarcasm on" and "sarcasm off." ;D
I mean, there's this little thing called FCC part 73.1201 dealing with legal IDs. An excerpt follows:
73.1201 Station identification.
(a) When regularly required. Broadcast station identification announcements shall be made:
(1) At the beginning and ending of each time of operation, and...
oldiesfan6479 said:
Sorry, should have bracketed it with "sarcasm on!" I don't really want to see Sandusky and Cactus Radio get in trouble with the Feds for illegally broadcasting those worn-out oldies pre-sunrise and without legal ID's at the beginning and ending of the broadcast day. All I can say is that someone over at Sandusky must really want to hear an hour of Del Shannon, the Temptations, the Monkees, the Beach Boys, the Chiffons and the Supremes early in the morning before Roy Garibaldi takes the airwaves at 7:00.
KOHS said:
Touché!
26,000 views of this thread. I'm amazed. Every lamptimer should have such a devoted and interested
following.
After reading all those "Kookie" posts, I've got smog in my noggin.
Would someone tell KXEG they have the wrong call letters on their transmitter building? Or, better yet,
let's not.
Carry on,
C.
following.
After reading all those "Kookie" posts, I've got smog in my noggin.
Would someone tell KXEG they have the wrong call letters on their transmitter building? Or, better yet,
let's not.
Carry on,
C.
Closed circuit for Gumpdusky:
If you outfit a KAZG prize van, it should have giant full-sized pics of Kookie and Frank
on the sides, and maybe "Lumberyard 1440 rules!" on the back. You'll want to go down
to the DMV (but not on a state furlough day) and get the vanity plate "LAMPTMR."
Tonight's carrier dump was at 5:59:49 PM. Just thinking...for kicks, if there had been
a live, First Phone-equipped Goldminer down at the lumberyard shack, you could have
waited another minute or so for the automation to play the TOH ID, then manually
sign off--legally IDed and all--right after the jingle.
If you outfit a KAZG prize van, it should have giant full-sized pics of Kookie and Frank
on the sides, and maybe "Lumberyard 1440 rules!" on the back. You'll want to go down
to the DMV (but not on a state furlough day) and get the vanity plate "LAMPTMR."
Tonight's carrier dump was at 5:59:49 PM. Just thinking...for kicks, if there had been
a live, First Phone-equipped Goldminer down at the lumberyard shack, you could have
waited another minute or so for the automation to play the TOH ID, then manually
sign off--legally IDed and all--right after the jingle.
Missed it by that much! (Visual: holds thumb and forefinger 1/4" apart.)
Tonight's carrier dump was almost...almost...a legally IDed sign off. The TOH stager
in the automation system played, and at 6:00:31 PM the Goldminer jingle singers
sang "KAZG"...but then sang no more as the lamptimer did its dirty deed at that very
instant, before "Scottsdale" (much less "Scottsdale/Phoenix") could be transmitted
into the ether.
The old Ampliphase had no chance up against the rogue lamptimer. :'(
Tonight's carrier dump was almost...almost...a legally IDed sign off. The TOH stager
in the automation system played, and at 6:00:31 PM the Goldminer jingle singers
sang "KAZG"...but then sang no more as the lamptimer did its dirty deed at that very
instant, before "Scottsdale" (much less "Scottsdale/Phoenix") could be transmitted
into the ether.
The old Ampliphase had no chance up against the rogue lamptimer. :'(
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