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A different idea for a LPFM

I was talking to a friend about a Low Power FM station in a small agricultural community he wants to start. It seems the area has a bit over 200 farmers, ranchers and avid gardeners within the 60 dbu. We’re talking apples and peaches to corn and tomatoes. There’s a couple of tiny dairies, some run chickens or goats and one is a meat producer, running cows. All are quite small. A big farm is about 20 acres and the average is probably about 3 acres. There’s a few that grow using greenhouses.

The people tend to like to make money with their hands. After the growing season some look to arts and crafts while others supplement things with a cottage business. There are quilters, painters, crafters. Some cook, bake or do other things outside the growing season.

There is really not much of a business community but of the services available, they are mostly located on the same property as the home, usually in an outbuilding.

Certainly this is a pretty unique area and you’d need to get creative in finding the support to run the station. Here’s my friend’s idea and it looks like it is being received quite favorably.

His idea is to have members paying, as he puts it, $5 a week in dues. He fears he might have cancellations if he does things by the month, so he proposes billing the bulk of membership in segments based around the growing season, especially as the harvest happens. For example, 25% in January through March, 25% in June, 25% in August and 25% on the 1st of October. The total price of membership is $260 a year. It is the only option.

His idea resolves around allowing all ‘current’ members to receive up to 5 announcements a day, up to 30 seconds in length, to say what is currently available. The members email or call and leave a recorded message with their updates. He gets everything ready for airing and puts it in rotation.

Twice an hour several of these announcements run back to back as a feature on the station. Then he adds a weather forecast and a community announcement or two.

Here’s how the concept works from the ‘member’s’ perspective: they dole out $260 a year in four $65 payments. For that they can offer updates as often as they need on what is happening on the farm and in the off season the same applies to whatever activities for income they might be involved in. They get the announcements anytime they want, up to 5 times a day, 7 days a week. In a sense, it is like a farmer’s swap shop in some ways.

A typical announcement might be “The Barton farm is picking cherry tomatoes, green beans and corn today. Also Marge is baking blueberry muffins and blueberry bread today. Don says he always has fishing worms available. For more information, the Barton farm is located at 3510 130th Avenue North and the phone number is 256-0431“. This would air on a rotating schedule 5 times in a 24 hour period. There might be, perhaps 5 to 10 of these running back to back each half hour in the peak of the harvest season.

I cautioned him these would likely be considered underwriting and pondered if the FCC might see this as ‘too commercial’. In talking with him, we figured an opening and closing for the feature should include the fact all the farms mentioned are ‘members’ who financially support the station and perhaps give information on becoming a member.

It should be noted a member would not get announcements unless they ask. For example, if you are a vineyard planting grapes, you won’t have any grapes to sell when you start. If you grow peaches and that’s it, you might only run announcements during the weeks you have peaches for sale. So, you might only take advantage of the announcements a few weeks a year. I guess the best way to put this, is you become a member for $260 a year. The announcements are merely a perk you get by being a member. You don’t get any announcements unless you want them. That almost makes me wonder if the announcements are truly underwriting . Then the question is if every member must be acknowledged on the air. I also thought of a separate organization set up to handle the members (ie: a local Farmers Market) and the separate organization places the announcements.

While thinking Farmer’s Markets, since such an entity is a non-profit, can you announce what is at the Farmer’s Market as it applies to underwriting for non-profits? Considering the participants are out to make a profit, I wonder. Certainly some farms would only sell at the Farmer's Market, not straight from the farm

At any rate, I thought this was a pretty unique idea. Maybe some other LPFMs out there might look to avid gardeners and small farmers as a revenue source.

I would love to hear your opinions, suggestions and ideas about this. I am always looking for unique ideas and I think this might be one. Would love to learn from you. Whatcha think?

The fellow was even thinking of calling his station the Farmer’s Market and centering his music format toward more acoustic traditional music you’d likely hear at a farmer’s market offering some musical entertainment. He said if he goes this route on music, he’ll center on local and regional musicians.

And, as a parting note: it sounds like a huge amount of work updating the announcements!
 
Not sure how this is any different from having sustaining members for your donor base and mixing in some underwriting.

But a listener base of 200 audience is a gross underutilization of a broadcast license of any kind, and is far, far, far too small an audience base to be sustainable financially.

I confess I'm still not entirely sure what you're describing here, but if it's what I think it is, it won't work. There is no way he'll convert all 200 farmers into sustaining donors. Best guess is that you'll get 10, maybe 20% of that...tops.
 
I'm told the 60 dbu will hit about 4,300 and we are not talking 200 people but 200 farming families.

I think he was looking for about 25% which might be a little high. He sees most of his potential income coming from the larger towns out of the 60 dbu listening area.

I see his biggest problems as being reaching out to those out of the listening area (maybe couple the station with internet site) and getting revenue after the growing season.

As for underutilization of a broadcast license: which is better, a tiny hole that will serve 200 with a 100 watt LPFM or no radio station?
 
bturner said:
He sees most of his potential income coming from the larger towns out of the 60 dbu listening area.

I see his biggest problems as being reaching out to those out of the listening area (maybe couple the station with internet site) and getting revenue after the growing season.

As for underutilization of a broadcast license: which is better, a tiny hole that will serve 200 with a 100 watt LPFM or no radio station?

For that "out of the coverage area" support, he probably needs to look at that as possible 'frosting on the cake'. If he can't come up with a plan to get his basic financial support from within the listening area, the whole enterprise has to be on shaky ground.

Under utilization? After observing the LPFM "industry" and reading through the regulations and the 'hoopla' put out by the support groups who pushed this legislation through, I get the idea that if someone wanted to put an LPFM somewhere in Minneapolis to reach a community of 200 to 200 homes of Somolian refugees, there would be a collective "hip, hip, hooray" flowing out of Washington and a lot of interest-group-headquarters around the country.

If someone can go in and broadcast to 200 - 300 families in a remote part of the Ozarks, and some cowboy movie looking setting in Montana or a camp full of tomato pickers in South Florida... it carries out the dream of LPFM does it not?
 
I'm told the 60 dbu will hit about 4,300 and we are not talking 200 people but 200 farming families. I think he was looking for about 25% which might be a little high.

200 families still only = about 800 to 1000 people. And that 25% figure is VERY high. Most stations are lucky to get a 2 or 3 share, and lucky to convert 5 to 10% of that audience in to regular donors. With a base pop of 4300, that's like 10 to 20 actual donors. Too small a group to be financially sustaining.


He sees most of his potential income coming from the larger towns out of the 60 dbu listening area.

LPFM's inherently low wattage means he will be a substandard signal in those other towns, competing for ad dollars with other stations that are (presumably) more local than he is. Every situation is different, but that sentence makes me cringe for him. I'll bet the research shows that such an approach is unlikely to succeed.


If someone can go in and broadcast to 200 - 300 families in a remote part of the Ozarks, and some cowboy movie looking setting in Montana or a camp full of tomato pickers in South Florida... it carries out the dream of LPFM does it not?

No, it carries out the nightmare of failed business that was started by someone who didn't take a hard look at what the realistic cash flow was going to be. Isn't the statistic something like 90% of all small businesses started, fail within the first year? And another 90% of the remainder fail within the second year?

I've run an LPFM. It's bastardly hard to compete with other local radio stations because most of them are commercial and you are not. That puts your sales staff at a huge disadvantage when the client says "but I can spend my ad budget on these guys and they'll let me say whatever I want in my ad." Your only answer is to have an incredibly niche format that superserves a particular audience, and even then it's damn hard.


As for underutilization of a broadcast license: which is better, a tiny hole that will serve 200 with a 100 watt LPFM or no radio station?

That's easy: no radio station. Any audience that size can get the same content via the web/smartphone cheaper and easier (from the listener's perspective) than through any broadcast outlet. It's not 1992 anymore. Or even 2003 anymore.
 
It sounds like interesting information but for far less money (and work) the same information can be posted on a website. In addition, a website user can scan the information and focus on what interests him. In radio you have to listen to all the announcements.

Radio is not really a good way to do this.
 
The point of a website: I agree. It is essential to have a website since these farms would rely on more than locals to sell to.

Agreed on several points. Funny thing, it's 2013 and I was talking to the guy that oversees KDKY in Marathon, Texas a few hours ago. As he put it, they're loved. You get a couple of miles out of town and radio is pretty much it. Cell phone coverage is pretty much nil and no cable out of town. On some of those ranches they use satellite phone and never have been on the grid. They gots lots of call about last night's storms...400 in town; 800 out of town.

Internet and phones work great where there is coverage. Ironically, it's not just Marathon. I know a quite a few places where there's no cell service and only dial up, from Texas to North Dakora and either side. We're not talking the big towns.

As for markets that are that small: Paisley, Oregon, Fossil, Oregon, Silverton, Colorado, Dixon, New Mexico, Patagonia, Arizona, Pacific Beach, Washington, all exceptions to your choice of no radio since there's not enough people. And all seem to do pretty well with their LPFMs. Granted, it is nothing more than a public service. They seem to pay the bills but pulling a salary is not in the cards.

I think my friend's idea sounds like way too much work.

A few insights: There is 1 station in the county. Spot rate 6a-7p $16 minimum 10x week. County paper charges $24 a week for business card ad. Classified is $7.50. In the two towns nearest this community, local businesses complain they can't afford to advertise in either the newspaper or radio station. That does not mean they'd buy on the LPFM.

The radio dial is not that crowded. I think the station in the county seat has more than a 2 or 3 share. There might be 8 to 10 tunable signals at most, all but one out of the county. Some are quite distant. I'd think the station could pick up a much higher percentage of listeners. If it didn't pull 10 to 15% of the adult ears in the coverage area I'd consider something seriously wrong. I'm guessing that you might be in an area where the radio dial is very crowded. I might expect a small percentage like that if the station was near a good sized city where there might be 25-30 or more choices on the dial.

So, you ran a LPFM. Do you mind me asking which one? Would love to learn of your successes and those things that made running the LPFM difficult.

I've come across the same statement about buying advertising. I learned the 'dangle the carrot and pull it away' trick. I offer and then say I need to qualify them. Part of my pitch: if you own a business, you'd charge a fair price for the product or service you offer, right? People buy only when they need your product or service, right? Sales only offer your product or service to a select group in the market for your product or service today at an amount that is below your fair price. Being on our station makes you top of mind when your product or service is needed, not just when you choose to accept less than your fair price.
 
aaronread said:
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If someone can go in and broadcast to 200 - 300 families in a remote part of the Ozarks, and some cowboy movie looking setting in Montana or a camp full of tomato pickers in South Florida... it carries out the dream of LPFM does it not?

No, it carries out the nightmare of failed business that was started by someone who didn't take a hard look at what the realistic cash flow was going to be. Isn't the statistic something like 90% of all small businesses started, fail within the first year? And another 90% of the remainder fail within the second year?

I've run an LPFM. It's bastardly hard to compete with other local radio stations because most of them are commercial and you are not. That puts your sales staff at a huge disadvantage when the client says "but I can spend my ad budget on these guys and they'll let me say whatever I want in my ad." Your only answer is to have an incredibly niche format that superserves a particular audience, and even then it's damn hard.


As for underutilization of a broadcast license: which is better, a tiny hole that will serve 200 with a 100 watt LPFM or no radio station?

That's easy: no radio station. Any audience that size can get the same content via the web/smartphone cheaper and easier (from the listener's perspective) than through any broadcast outlet. It's not 1992 anymore. Or even 2003 anymore.

Aaron, I respect you input and the experiences that you draw from. However, from reading your posts I get the idea your primary experience is in a more metropolitan atmosphere (which IS where the majority of Americans live today) and what Bill Turner and I are talking about is RURAL America. Out in the "kuntry". As the old cliche goes: "We don't read the paper to find out who is doing what... we read to see who got caught!"

We who look to the market places found in Appalachia, the Ozarks, The Ouachitas, the plateau states of the upper Western country, and the desert areas of Texas through Arizona. (I worked for some folks once in the Midwest who invested in a farming operation in DATELAND, AZ. I made some trips out there to size up the insurance and safety. This ole farmboy grew up in the irrigated section of some Texas desert. I thought I had some expertise. Dateland just plain blew my mind.)


Bill and I have been batting back and forth some possible "business plans" for communities that people who are steeped in the traditions of the corridor from Philadelphia to Boston sometimes can't wrap their brains around.
 
Goat Rodeo Cowboy understands what I'm saying.

Amid all the detail, I think some responders might be located in areas where radio chooses not to fixate on its community and thereby pick up a rather substantial local following. In places where 50 or 60 signals may be tuned in on the radio a station doing this is in a poor position to garner such a local audience. In areas where local stations are few and where those stations opt to serve their community of license, the local service areas generally flock to the station in very substantial numbers. There is even the feeling that I have to support you because you support me. By this I mean people will frequently buy locally because they make their living from the community and feel obligated to support their community in return. I'm not saying everyone is in lockstep but enough are serious about this to keep a community going. Naturally one needs a community where everyone is on the same page. Divided communities doin't have this. In the smaller of these communities, the support idea is almost an obligation. It's not alot different from getting a wedding gift or graduation gift for someone when an invite arrives in the mailbox.

In one town I know the only bank has blank checks at all the checkout counters of stores in town. In several places, you sign your ticket and pay at the end of the month. Put it on my tab is still heard. People still wave at every car they pass or they lift a finger or two off the steering wheel to acknowledge you as you pass (and not the finger you might be thinking). I remember going to eat with a friend in a small town that seemed dead. He needed gas. He stopped at a closed up gas station, went to the 'secret spot', grabbed the key, went inside, turned on the pump and noted his purchase on the clip board before leaving. To the outside it looked like an abandoned gas station. At the cafe, they put it on his tab without asking.

I recall a fellow that did a polka music show on a station I worked for. He had segments for local areas or towns. When we went to sell this. We explained local announcements, requests and dedications would be aired during a certain segment. Few businesses said no to our economical rates and even in a town of 300 (1,200 in the area) we picked up about 2/3rds of the businesses as clients. This wasn't 1973, mind you. It was the fact the town had a radio station paying attention, an outlet to share information and they knew polka music was important to the largely ethnic makeup of the town. The businesses knew that by being heard in that segment for their town was great PR for them and we kept rates pretty low...around $25 a month. In this one town, we picked up 24 clients in about 4 hours. The town got an hour each week on the radio. They got a 15 second spot in the hour. Funny thing is we had a huge part of that town and surrounding area tuning in each week and calling in.

Maybe my friend should go this route versus a LPFM. But at any rate, out in the sticks things can be pretty different.
 
No, no I readily concede that when you're really out in the sticks, the equation changes somewhat. Scarcity starts making radio a lot more competitive. I have family in Coleman, Texas. Well, they mostly live on the ranch about 20 miles east of Coleman. You wanna talk about "the sticks"? Damn there's a lot of nothing out there...it's about 100 miles SSW of Abilene. When you see cellphone coverage maps and there's a big hole in the middle of Texas? That's Coleman smack in the middle of it. And even then, my family and many of their neighbors are on the grid. Admittedly they just got wifi bridges to an ISP in town within the last two or three years, but they've done it.

However, that only changes the equation to a limited degree. The bottom line is that the population base is still so tiny that even a massive share of it (by broadcast standards) is such a small audience that it seems awfully tough to get enough money from them to make it sustainable. Even Marfa Public Radio, which has a 100,000 watt signal (also over a lot of nothing in western Texas), has a tough time financially. It's a constant struggle for them, and they do a good job, too.

The station I used to run was WHWS-LP in Geneva, NY. Definitely a different situation...while Geneva is very rural, it has six local stations (all owned by one operator, somewhat unfortunately) and has ample radio/TV service from the cities of Rochester and Syracuse, both about an hour's drive away. More importantly, WHWS is (effectively, not legally) owned by Hobart & William Smith colleges. This puts all kinds of restrictions on how the station can operate and obligations to carry programming that is generally unpopular with the surrounding community. But it also provides a significant financial cushion that, according to my experience, more than made up any underwriting revenue the station could hope to earn. (fundraising would be impossible; too much campus focus and thus too much competition with the HWS Alumni House office)

That doesn't mean we didn't try to get underwriting dollars, but it was hard as hell. Part of the problem was that the HWS athletics dept was quite demanding about getting radio coverage for the games (we aired over 100 games, plus playoffs, across nine sports, every academic year) but refused to coordinate on sponsorships. So whenever we went to local businesses, they always said "we're already sponsoring the college (sports), why aren't radio spots included in that???". But really the killer was the Finger Lakes Radio Group; they had a lot of very local stations and substantial ad staff to aggressively go out and get sponsors. We were always second-fiddle to them and it was slim pickens.

It didn't help that WHWS didn't really broadcast at all prior to 2007, and not seriously until 2009. I tried some ideas; namely partnering with the campus newspaper and the local commercial daily newspaper on spots. Never really got much traction, but it was a long-term process and I only had about eight months to work on it before I left the job for a stint in California in 2011. C'est la vie.
 
Radio really does not have a future if the best that can be said about it is use in remote areas (where almost no one lives) or in extreme weather emergencies ("storms of the century").

I already have surcharges on my Internet bill and wireless bill for universal access (subsidized service in the boonies). I pay taxes and increased grocery prices to keep prices high and otherwise subsidize farmers. Now I'm supposed to subsidize "swap shop" for farmers. No thanks.

Farmers are the ultimate welfare hogs and then the first to turn around a complain about government spending.
 
Agreed, the population base and income potential is minimal. I think the real question that needs to be answered is whether it is enough to sustain the station without financial compensation for the operator and whether the operator has a way to make a living outside the station. Then, the question becomes one of passion: will the guy stick with it and derive enough non-monetary fulfillment to stay with it.

Marfa Public Radio is a struggle, granted, but I was happy to see them obtain a license in the Midland/Odessa market for very little cash. In that respect, they might be more cash poor than asset poor.

I've been through Coleman. It is in the sticks. I know living in areas akin to Marfa where before hitting the highway you checked your oil, gas gauge and if a light had been coming on, you had it checked out before heading out of town. It was so far from anywhere and lack of cell service meant you could be stranded for a good while, especially on a "Farm to Market" or "Ranch" road (Texas' version of a state highway). I still remember seeing a propane truck driver in the middle of the highway one day. He's been there 4 hours waiting for a car to pass and give him a lift into town, almost 40 miles away. You timed your driving because if you left too late the only gas stations on your way would be closed (no 24 hour pumps out there), not to mention the deer out grazing along the highway...I've hit a few or they ran into me!
 
You might want to talk to Stephen Provizer, former head of "Allston Brighton Free Radio"...a pirate station in Boston. It operated similarly to many LPFM's, and it was Steve's passion that kept things going. Until finally he couldn't afford it...both in cash and in sanity...and the whole thing collapsed pretty soon after he left. He can probably speak quite a bit about how much of a challenge it can be to get funding out of an audience.

You can reach him through Twitter if not through this discussion board...
https://twitter.com/improviz
 
To the previous poster....you must not live in an area where radio has value...too bad you don't. Obviously you don't 'get' how people in more rural locations rely on radio or what it is like to spend 30 days without electricity following a hurricane and are trying to find out where a store got a shipment of groceries or a gas station just got gas.

Some of the 'little stations' do really well One operator I know, in a county of 5,000, bills around $800,000 a year (yes he has about 25,000 in his listening area and a staff of 5 fulltimers, 4 weekenders and he and his wife). Then there's the city of 125,000 where a group owner says he outbills his major market properties with his station there and it has the highest profit margin of all his stations. My point: sometimes the big urban areas are so crowded with radio stations and other options, they have a very difficult time making it.

Radio is about like newspapers these days. The big city papers are having troubles. The smaller communities with papers are seeing increased revenue and readership.
 
Sometimes people figure out how things can work while others look at how it can fail. Is the glass half full or half empty? I tend to be an optimist.
 
The situation in Geneva, New York sounds pretty grave. I'd think the only option would be to go after the smallest businesses that could not afford the other media in the area. In my experience, it took just as much time to get the small account as it did the big boys but they mostly stayed if you treated them like they were big spenders. Still the trick was to economize on time so you could do spend the time you needed to reel those in. Some were pretty sweet. I had a guy who could only spend about $80 a month with me. I paid him a visit and said I was a bit under $300 from making my goal set by my boss. I was hoping he might dole out a $75 to $100 order. He said I had made it and said he'd spend $300 with me to make that happen if I could bill half the following month. The little guys seemed to really appreciate getting the same treatment as the big boys but you had to get really creative. I used to 'marry up' some little guys in promotions I did with the big boys to get them more exposure even though there were no dollars in commission immediately...I thought long term. I recall trying to help a flower shop that was pretty new after the owner had spent her cash on getting product for the anticipated rush of Valentine's Day. I linked her with a promotion I did for a restaurant. She got mentions by having their staff handing out free flowers to every lady Valentine's Day night at a major restaurant. It worked out for the restaurant and the flower shop plus the flower shop owner remembered it was my station that helped her out. She never had much to spend but she always included me in her media purchases.

Lots of times partnering up with other media doesn't work out too well. When our station sold cable TV spots as well, we had few takers even though we offered. We saw those dollars on the table as a way to increase our share of the advertising pie. Then again, our commission was about double what we got from cable ads so we created packages that convinced most to blow off cable TV and just go radio. For us it was a do you want a percentage or all of those dollars question. Still, you have to start somewhere and starting at something that's not perfect beats doing nothing every time. So I applaud you efforts.

The 'restrictions' you faced with the station likely made that pretty rough. I can relate. I too have been between a rock and a hard place with management saying 'why can't you wriggle out of this?'. They fail to notice or if they do, don't care that that something might be a problem. I recall a station I worked where the owner was so well loved I got a "you seem like a nice guy but I'll never spend a dollar on your station as long as that guy owns it". I spent all my time in nearby towns trying to get advertising since the operator's fine reputation was not well known there. Slim pickings indeed. I was lucky to do 1/3rd of what I did at the prior station I had worked.
 
FredLeonard said:
I already have surcharges on my Internet bill and wireless bill for universal access (subsidized service in the boonies). I pay taxes and increased grocery prices to keep prices high and otherwise subsidize farmers. Now I'm supposed to subsidize "swap shop" for farmers. No thanks.

Farmers are the ultimate welfare hogs and then the first to turn around a complain about government spending.

You need to do your homework, Hoss.

How many crops get subsidized by government support or pricing plans? Not many. And the farms that "milk" most of the Federal Farm subsidy money are corporate owned, kind of like radio. Farm magazines and journals are full of information about how most of the Federal money goes to benefit people who are part of the 2%... so fondly adored by the "Occupy" crowd that is being discussed in another thread here about radio. They live in some big city somewhere. They tend to be Venture Capital type folks who have been able to figure out how to finance the purchase of large blocks of farmland while young men growing up in farm country who would like to be lifelong farmers have as much fun trying to figure out how they can finance their farm.... just like some people who patrol our conversations here try to figure out they can finance their first radio station.

Radio in rural, remote areas does not just serve "farmers"... you know, the kind that wears overalls and drives a John Deere. Remote rural areas serve as affordable homes for the guys who drive long-haul semis that bring you your bananas and Budweiser... where ever you live. I have a "nephew-in-law" who travels the world doing exotic welding that I do not understand. He doesn't get to do exotic every day so he and my niece camp out on the back side of the farm property my sister and brother-in-law have in a very rural part of Arkansas. Guys who will eventually show up and dig the trenches when they get around to approving some version of the Keystone XL pipeline probably have a home base in one of these rural areas that you feel are milking your contribution to the tax pile.

I find Northern Wisconsin and the Michigan Upper Peninsula to be interesting places. A lot of folks up there apparently make a living with a chain saw and some small animal traps. The state of Wisconsin looked these people over through the years and decided that if they would let the part time school cafeteria employees and the part time bus drivers (women for the most part) participate in the school health insurance plan. But Governor Walker knows better. That's free-loading. Kick the part time employees off the plan. So what did he get out that bargain? Those people now go on Medicaid. Just look at how much tax money Wisconsin saves. I'm sure it is cheaper to pay their medical costs through Medicaid than through the school insurance plan. <insert bit look of sarcasm here ::) >

I'm sorry the people of rural America are making your life miserable by running up your tax bill. The good news is: your children do not have to participate in a Military Draft any more. Kids from the urban ghettos and kids who grow up in the land of small animal traps and chain saws find that military life gives them an escape hatch and opportunity.

Maybe figuring out how to get some radio coverage out in the boonies is not all bad news.
 
After re-reading my post about WHWS, I realize that I should expand my opinion about the Finger Lakes Radio Group. It's "unfortunate" that they own almost all the local signals (and actually that's not true, there's some religious outlets in town, too) only in the sense that I generally believe that competition is healthier than monopoly.

I know most of the folks at FLRG and they work really hard and do a good job. If you had to have a monopoly, these would be the guys you'd probably trust more than most. Heck, the guy that owns it used to be on one of the infamous "pirate radio ships" off the coast of the UK back in the day. ;D

But yes, just by dint of their presence as such an active commercial cluster in town, it made getting sponsors for our LPFM pretty tough. I don't begrudge the FLRG that at all. It just is what it is. But it's true that more than once I was told by a potential sponsor that they went with the FLRG because they had bigger signals, more audience, and - most importantly - as commercial stations the spots could have any content the client wanted. Oh well.
 
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