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A farewell (for now?) message...

N

nate81

Guest
To All,

It's unfortunate that my time posting on R-I has to end in such a disappionting manner. This will be the last you will see of me on here for a long time - possibly forever, for that manner.

I quit posting on a certain forum (whose site name is that of our fair city) back in July. A number of posters went off the deep end blasting away a staffer at Elyria-Lorain. The s*** was so deep, I couldn't take it anymore. I left, and have never looked back.

I see that the same has come to pass here at R-I. A shame, on my part - because I did what I ripped the other site for: letting pure emotion carry away for no real reason. It was probably egged on by other people (and you know who you are) but it was unjustified on my end. As soon as this post is done, I will probably leave - and I may not look back.

I should know if I got the LCCC Duck Radio webmaster's gig in the next few days. Why I aimed for this job is not what the newbies think. Or anyone else, for that matter.

As those who HAVE been one this board for some time, my drive to get into the world of radio died a long time ago. When I started at LCCC in 2000, they didn't have an actual radio presence. Blame LCCC's close proximity to the Cleveland radio dial for that - and that's why LCCC may never attain a true terrestiral radio station.

I soured on the world of telecommunications after suffering burnout while working for LCCC's ITMS department. Now, I've modified my major via Ohio University's Bachelor of Specialized Studies (I attend OU via LCCC's Univeristy Partnership - I haven't really been an LCCC student since 2003!) that enabled me to merge my current major - communications - with a personal love - history. Ergo, "library sciences" - which I will pursue a Masters' at from Kent State.

I want to learn the art of the internet by taking this webmaster gig. This does not involved an on-air gig. Let's get that straight RIGHT NOW. My desires are elsewhere. This is an opportunity to do something new, and exciting. I relish the challenge of learning something new, given that I've self-taught myself internet code. Oh, and the digitilization of libraries, museums, and the like in the next decade may give me an added advantage, no?

===================================

About LCCC Duck Radio:

Unlike, say, WBWC, they've never had a break and are pretty damn lucky to have ever gone on the air, period. In 2000 (Buzzard78 can attest to this) they used a horrible closed-circuit television arrangement with the cafeteria televisions. No one liked it at all. For one, the jock had to monitor the audio levels on the board, but also on the television! Don't know if anyone knew this existed, especially during peak hours. I tried it, and I hated it.

Then, there was an 'upgrade.' The college television channel (callsign WHR-777) allowed an hour of audio airtime at 7:00AM. That meant the jock had to prerecord their show on outdated 1/4" videotape. I worked at WHR-777 then, and it was a miracle if: a) there was a show to air, and b) it did air. Complaints were common, and I can't blame anyone.

It was a current collegue of mine within the student government who came up with the internet radio station idea, modeled after his personal radio station that he operated as a pure hobby. Few warmed to his initial proposal, but then again, past attempts by others went into Siberia.

Only his brother, who was fresh from a stint at then-Hispanic WDLW/1380, upgraded the idea into what is seen today. Only he went further up the personnel chain at LCCC - admittedly, with some consultation from moi. They went on the air faster than would have been expected.

===================================

I don't really want to work in the radio buisness day-to-day. (Sorry, richardhead, but you got it totally wrong ;) I love to research the history of the medium - that's been proven in spades here and elsewhere. And I love to be an armchair quarterback - within reason, of course.

I have recieved lots of nice complements from actual present and past people in the buisness - something I wouldn't be able to do anywhere else. It's been gratifying on my part.

I apologize for any misconduct ON MY PART. Let this not consistute a cart blanche for any other people that may hold a degree of responsiblity for the recent mess. But regardless, the fun of doing this is gone. Maybe for good. With all the crap I have to do on a daily basis, I may not miss you guys at all. Again, that's a shame. I wish this didn't happen. I'm sorry.

If anyone wishes to contact me, just click either e-mail address below. I'll be happy to keep touch with anyone that wants to. I'm happy to have been a part of R-I for a year and a half. I enjoyed it.

So long.

______________
Regards,

Nathan Obral
[email protected]
[email protected]
 
To My Friend Nate...

Nate,

I wish you didn't have to go. But, I understand.

I admire your intelligence and drive. You're clearly out ahead of a lot of young men your age. But a lot of times, people here forget that...you write so well that they don't realize you're in college. (Despite the signature file, that is. :D)

And frankly, yeah, you sometimes make "youthful mistakes" on this board. (Heck, I'm somewhat older than you, and sometimes I put my foot in it!) You haven't been through what a lot of us went through years ago, where you learn how to temper your criticisms, and learn how to be a little more diplomatic with people. You also are still learning that there are many things about stations that control what you hear, and the difference between what you actually know and what you "feel is right".

But you're as a rule "wise beyond your years", and people forget.

I have no doubt that if you did choose to pursue anything in this crazy business, we'd be looking back 30 years later and saying "we knew him when". But, I don't blame you for bailing out of considering it. Radio has gotten quite screwed up, and now you're lucky if you FIND a solid, decent situation in this business. It can still happen, at both "locally owned" stations and even in large clusters owned by the big companies, but it's a lot more difficult than it was for me back in 1989.

I've often considered whether I'M going to get back up on the horse again, now that my project is basically dead. (Anyone want some unused studio equipment?)

The funny thing is, I know my talent and know that if SOMEONE picked up on it, they'd be breaking their arm patting themselves on the back for finding me. But...when you're out here alone, it doesn't feel like it, and you feel down when you hear people on the radio locally who are not nearly as talented as you are, and they're in front of a microphone while you're sitting in your car.

So, I understand. And whether it's in library science or any other field, I wish you well.

-OA<P ID="signature">______________
Ohio Media Watch - <a target="_blank" href=http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com>http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com</a></P>
 
I ditto all the sentiments of OA, and have expressed some of my thoughts in my email of last night.

Best of luck to you, Nate. And remember, no shame in just lurking here--remember, Radio-Info is much like a traffic collision (in more ways than one): sometimes you just gotta look.

And so, as you head out to that great western landscape (Lorain County), let me speak in the language of the law, Latin:

"Benedictum sanctus, boni sinatra, subgum, chop suey, prima facie, and how's your old man?" (channeling, in part, the late Rex Miller)

Warmest,
JM
 
Nate,
Now I see where all of that radio history you know comes from! One thing I don't do is hold grudges against people I "get into it" with on a website. ;)
Honestly...good luck on the webmaster gig. Who knows what the future might hold...in a short period of time, we might be talking about a great radio station that streams over the net. And we can add that station to the list of great college radio stations this area has to offer. Or maybe a great website to go to for Cleveland airchecks of the past. That seems like it would be right up your alley.
 
Re: To My Friend Nate...

> Nate,
>
> I wish you didn't have to go. But, I understand.
>
> I admire your intelligence and drive. You're clearly out
> ahead of a lot of young men your age. But a lot of times,
> people here forget that...you write so well that they don't
> realize you're in college. (Despite the signature file,
> that is. :D)
>
> And frankly, yeah, you sometimes make "youthful mistakes" on
> this board. (Heck, I'm somewhat older than you, and
> sometimes I put my foot in it!) You haven't been through
> what a lot of us went through years ago, where you learn how
> to temper your criticisms, and learn how to be a little more
> diplomatic with people. You also are still learning that
> there are many things about stations that control what you
> hear, and the difference between what you actually know and
> what you "feel is right".
>
> But you're as a rule "wise beyond your years", and people
> forget.
>
> I have no doubt that if you did choose to pursue anything in
> this crazy business, we'd be looking back 30 years later and
> saying "we knew him when". But, I don't blame you for
> bailing out of considering it. Radio has gotten quite
> screwed up, and now you're lucky if you FIND a solid, decent
> situation in this business. It can still happen, at both
> "locally owned" stations and even in large clusters owned by
> the big companies, but it's a lot more difficult than it was
> for me back in 1989.
>
> I've often considered whether I'M going to get back up on
> the horse again, now that my project is basically dead.
> (Anyone want some unused studio equipment?)
>
> The funny thing is, I know my talent and know that if
> SOMEONE picked up on it, they'd be breaking their arm
> patting themselves on the back for finding me. But...when
> you're out here alone, it doesn't feel like it, and you feel
> down when you hear people on the radio locally who are not
> nearly as talented as you are, and they're in front of a
> microphone while you're sitting in your car.
>
> So, I understand. And whether it's in library science or
> any other field, I wish you well.
>
> -OA
>

Not to threadjack, but what have you got in the way of studio equipment (and will it be up for sale)?
 
> To All,
>
> It's unfortunate that my time posting on R-I has to end in
> such a disappionting manner. This will be the last you will
> see of me on here for a long time - possibly forever, for
> that manner.
>
> I quit posting on a certain forum (whose site name is that
> of our fair city) back in July. A number of posters went off
> the deep end blasting away a staffer at Elyria-Lorain. The
> s*** was so deep, I couldn't take it anymore. I left, and
> have never looked back.
>
> I see that the same has come to pass here at R-I. A shame,
> on my part - because I did what I ripped the other site for:
> letting pure emotion carry away for no real reason. It was
> probably egged on by other people (and you know who you are)
> but it was unjustified on my end. As soon as this post is
> done, I will probably leave - and I may not look back.
>
> I should know if I got the LCCC Duck Radio webmaster's gig
> in the next few days. Why I aimed for this job is not what
> the newbies think. Or anyone else, for that matter.
>
> As those who HAVE been one this board for some time, my
> drive to get into the world of radio died a long time ago.
> When I started at LCCC in 2000, they didn't have an actual
> radio presence. Blame LCCC's close proximity to the
> Cleveland radio dial for that - and that's why LCCC may
> never attain a true terrestiral radio station.
>
> I soured on the world of telecommunications after suffering
> burnout while working for LCCC's ITMS department. Now, I've
> modified my major via Ohio University's Bachelor of
> Specialized Studies (I attend OU via LCCC's Univeristy
> Partnership - I haven't really been an LCCC student since
> 2003!) that enabled me to merge my current major -
> communications - with a personal love - history. Ergo,
> "library sciences" - which I will pursue a Masters' at from
> Kent State.
>
> I want to learn the art of the internet by taking this
> webmaster gig. This does not involved an on-air gig. Let's
> get that straight RIGHT NOW. My desires are elsewhere. This
> is an opportunity to do something new, and exciting. I
> relish the challenge of learning something new, given that
> I've self-taught myself internet code. Oh, and the
> digitilization of libraries, museums, and the like in the
> next decade may give me an added advantage, no?
>
> ===================================
>
> About LCCC Duck Radio:
>
> Unlike, say, WBWC, they've never had a break and are pretty
> damn lucky to have ever gone on the air, period. In 2000
> (Buzzard78 can attest to this) they used a horrible
> closed-circuit television arrangement with the cafeteria
> televisions. No one liked it at all. For one, the jock had
> to monitor the audio levels on the board, but also on the
> television! Don't know if anyone knew this existed,
> especially during peak hours. I tried it, and I hated it.
>
> Then, there was an 'upgrade.' The college television channel
> (callsign WHR-777) allowed an hour of audio airtime at
> 7:00AM. That meant the jock had to prerecord their show on
> outdated 1/4" videotape. I worked at WHR-777 then, and it
> was a miracle if: a) there was a show to air, and b) it did
> air. Complaints were common, and I can't blame anyone.
>
> It was a current collegue of mine within the student
> government who came up with the internet radio station idea,
> modeled after his personal radio station that he operated as
> a pure hobby. Few warmed to his initial proposal, but then
> again, past attempts by others went into Siberia.
>
> Only his brother, who was fresh from a stint at
> then-Hispanic WDLW/1380, upgraded the idea into what is seen
> today. Only he went further up the personnel chain at LCCC -
> admittedly, with some consultation from moi. They went on
> the air faster than would have been expected.
>
> ===================================
>
> I don't really want to work in the radio buisness
> day-to-day. (Sorry, richardhead, but you got it totally
> wrong ;) I love to research the history of the medium -
> that's been proven in spades here and elsewhere. And I love
> to be an armchair quarterback - within reason, of course.
>
> I have recieved lots of nice complements from actual present
> and past people in the buisness - something I wouldn't be
> able to do anywhere else. It's been gratifying on my part.
>
> I apologize for any misconduct ON MY PART. Let this not
> consistute a cart blanche for any other people that may hold
> a degree of responsiblity for the recent mess. But
> regardless, the fun of doing this is gone. Maybe for good.
> With all the crap I have to do on a daily basis, I may not
> miss you guys at all. Again, that's a shame. I wish this
> didn't happen. I'm sorry.
>
> If anyone wishes to contact me, just click either e-mail
> address below. I'll be happy to keep touch with anyone that
> wants to. I'm happy to have been a part of R-I for a year
> and a half. I enjoyed it.
>
> So long.
>
> ______________
> Regards,
>
> Nathan Obral
> [email protected]
> [email protected]
>


Best of luck to you. I certainly don't regret changing from communications to an engineering major instead.
 
Are you black? Triv still needs a Weds-Thurs intern.

Best of luck to you.
 
> Are you black? Triv still needs a Weds-Thurs intern.
>
> Best of luck to you.
>

Black? I thought the criteria was breasts?!

<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by Johnny Morgan on 10/27/05 01:07 AM.</FONT></P>
 
> > Are you black? Triv still needs a Weds-Thurs intern.
> >
> > Best of luck to you.
> >
>
> Black? I thought the criteria was breasts?!
>


It's about affirmative action!
 
> > > Are you black? Triv still needs a Weds-Thurs intern.
> > >
> > > Best of luck to you.
> > >
> >
> > Black? I thought the criteria was breasts?!
> >
>
>
> It's about affirmative action!
>

Black with breasts?! HAHA...Marty already works there! :)
 
Re: To My Friend Nate...

> Nate,
>
> I wish you didn't have to go. But, I understand.
>
> I admire your intelligence and drive. You're clearly out
> ahead of a lot of young men your age. But a lot of times,
> people here forget that...you write so well that they don't
> realize you're in college. (Despite the signature file,
> that is. :D)
>
> And frankly, yeah, you sometimes make "youthful mistakes" on
> this board. (Heck, I'm somewhat older than you, and
> sometimes I put my foot in it!) You haven't been through
> what a lot of us went through years ago, where you learn how
> to temper your criticisms, and learn how to be a little more
> diplomatic with people. You also are still learning that
> there are many things about stations that control what you
> hear, and the difference between what you actually know and
> what you "feel is right".
>
> But you're as a rule "wise beyond your years", and people
> forget.
>
> I have no doubt that if you did choose to pursue anything in
> this crazy business, we'd be looking back 30 years later and
> saying "we knew him when". But, I don't blame you for
> bailing out of considering it. Radio has gotten quite
> screwed up, and now you're lucky if you FIND a solid, decent
> situation in this business. It can still happen, at both
> "locally owned" stations and even in large clusters owned by
> the big companies, but it's a lot more difficult than it was
> for me back in 1989.
>
> I've often considered whether I'M going to get back up on
> the horse again, now that my project is basically dead.
> (Anyone want some unused studio equipment?)
>
> The funny thing is, I know my talent and know that if
> SOMEONE picked up on it, they'd be breaking their arm
> patting themselves on the back for finding me. But...when
> you're out here alone, it doesn't feel like it, and you feel
> down when you hear people on the radio locally who are not
> nearly as talented as you are, and they're in front of a
> microphone while you're sitting in your car.
>
> So, I understand. And whether it's in library science or
> any other field, I wish you well.
>
> -OA
>
nate- i share old akronites sentiments in wishing you well. i am currently out of the business after working for a stand alone am station and starving. it took a heavy toll on my family. i'm glad to hear you will be able to pursue multiple interests and loves in a workable format(library science). i have enjoyed reading your posts and have learned much about the industry from you. once again, best wishes and GOD SPEED. david5258
 
Nate, I also share the feelings OA posted below. I'm sorry you have to go. But, I also understand and wish you all the luck in the world. <P ID="signature">______________
"I reject your reality and substitute in my own."
Adam Savage - Mythbusters (Discovery Channel)</P>
 
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