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People are leaving the Boston area at a record numbers ( 27 people per day ) . How will this effect the Boston radio market ? <P ID="signature">______________
America most awful Hip Hop station list , KS107.5 Denver , KLUC Las Vegas , and Wired in Philly .</P>
 
> People are leaving the Boston area at a record numbers ( 27
> people per day ) . How will this effect the Boston radio
> market ?
It means the market will drop out of the top-10 and somewhere into the 11-15 [#12?] soon. I've seen Boston as high as 9 and as low as 11. How that will affect adv. is unclear. <a target="_blank" href=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/14/AR2006031400487.html>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/14/AR2006031400487.html</a>
 
> People are leaving the Boston area at a record numbers ( 27
> people per day ) . How will this effect the Boston radio
> market ?

27 people are leaving Suffolk County per day. It's quite likely that some of them are moving to Norfolk, Middlesex, Essex, and other surrounding areas in the Boston DMA.

Even though the population has been dropping recently (and if you look at how Boston's population was once past 1 million, but is now 535,000), Boston is likely to remain an important city from a national perspective. Just one example: the American Idol auditions made a stop in Boston, but omitted other large markets, including NYC.

Boston's rank in markets will probably keep dropping, but the city's national influence is likely to ensure that CBS Radio, Clear Channel, and other groups still consider Boston to be an important market when it comes to prize giveaways and such. Though when you see ABC running "True Oldies Channel" on a full-market Class B O&O in market #3, it's worth considering how much impact market size has on product.
 
> People are leaving the Boston area at a record numbers ( 27
> people per day ) . How will this effect the Boston radio
> market ?
>

27 legal, tax-paying citizens are leaving per day, but plenty of illegal, criminal, non-tax-paying people are entering per day. Hardly an empty city, although you may start to hear less Hush Bimbo and more radio broadcasts of soccer games. There is no way that the gross population of Massachusetts is dwindling -- it's more crowded than ever.
 
> > People are leaving the Boston area at a record numbers (
> 27
> > people per day ) . How will this effect the Boston radio
> > market ?
> It means the market will drop out of the top-10 and
> somewhere into the 11-15 [#12?] soon. How that will affect
> adv. is unclear.
>
I think Boson is already out of the top ten ( 11 I think ) . <P ID="signature">______________
America most awful Hip Hop station list , KS107.5 Denver , KLUC Las Vegas , and Wired in Philly .</P>
 
> People are leaving the Boston area at a record numbers ( 27
> people per day ) . How will this effect the Boston radio
> market ?
>
well for starters the market has already slipped out of the top ten. It almost happened a few yeasr ago when the market was re districted and southern NH was included so that Boston would not dip below the top 10.
 
> > People are leaving the Boston area at a record numbers (
> 27
> > people per day ) . How will this effect the Boston radio
> > market ?
> >
> well for starters the market has already slipped out of the
> top ten. It almost happened a few yeasr ago when the market
> was re districted and southern NH was included so that
> Boston would not dip below the top 10.
>

It was actually 28 people today... Well at least according to NewsCenter 5.
 
> I think Boson is already out of the top ten ( 11 I think ) .

Boston is #11, a sliver behind Atlanta.
 
I left Boston for KLUC's sister station...so I am laughing my ass off at your "awful rap station list" man. haha

btw: I think Boston will hit #13 in a matter of a year.



> People are leaving the Boston area at a record numbers ( 27
> people per day ) . How will this effect the Boston radio
> market ?
>
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-TheGuy...InTheRadio</P>
 
Yes, Boston is #11. When I came here in 1979, Boston was #6. When I say "Boston", I mean the Boston Metro area; not the city-proper. I would also imagine that if part of NH and part of Worcester County were taken OUT of the make-up of 'the Boston market' (like it should be), then Boston would drop yto about 15th place. - When Ch 5 reports that "28 people are leaving daily", it means that "28" is the DIFFERENCE between the number of people coming and going. Example: if 1000 arrive, then 1028 leave. - While Boston is known nationwide/worldwide as positive city, people here are tired of crooked politics, high taxes, high real estate prices, lack of jobs, heating fuel prices; and the state (oops, Commonwealth) it not small-business-friendly. Many move to VT, NH, Maine, but more than that, most move to warmer places; the southeast or California/Arizona. It this continues on its present course, then the donors will be gone, and the receivers shall inherit. - Me and my family are gonna be out of Mass soon; headed for Maine.




> > I think Boson is already out of the top ten ( 11 I think )
> .
>
> Boston is #11, a sliver behind Atlanta.
>
 
> People are leaving the Boston area at a record numbers ( 27
> people per day ) . How will this effect the Boston radio
> market ?
>

they're leaving -boston-, not the boston area. worcester and middlesex counties
are primary beneficiaries because of more and more companies and businesses
are moving out of the overpriced boston real estate market to the 495 belt.
some are leaving for neighoring states like nh or ri for tax breaks.
the main problem is high cost of real estate and rising property taxes in
the city of boston. mumbles better start thinking straight.
 
While parts of NH are included in the "Boston Metro" for radio, note also that the southern Vermont(Vermont!)county of Windham is included as part of the Boston TV ADI !

Go figure...

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"What's That?" "French Horns!"

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Even if the population of the Boston area begins to grow again (which it could in the near future), the rank of the Boston radio market will probably continue to fall because the populations of several other radio markets are growing at a faster rate.
 
> Even if the population of the Boston area begins to grow
> again (which it could in the near future), the rank of the
> Boston radio market will probably continue to fall because
> the populations of several other radio markets are growing
> at a faster rate.
>

i agree with that, however, places like florida, north carolina,
arizona, nevada are growing like crazy because thousands and thousands
of retiring baby boomers are moving there for cheaper housing,
lower cost of living and low or no state income taxes. the population
shift is only bound to drive up the housing and other related costs
in those places. take a look at florida - some of the average areas
in florida are already more expensive than fancy areas around these parts.
it what it is.

yet, it's a myth that everyone's packing their bags and escaping northeast. what's going on here is a population turn-over. northeast is actually getting younger and more affluent and still desirable for national advertisers seeking 18-49 crowd.

they wouldn't be building an upscale mall and 200 luxury condos(all sold out) in natick if everyone with disposable income was getting up and leaving the area. metro west is actually witnessing a huge baby boom with so many young families who moved out of the city in recent years.

this part of the country still has a lot to offer as far as good jobs,
education, medicine, research, culture, sports and arts.
 
> > Even if the population of the Boston area begins to grow
> > again (which it could in the near future), the rank of the
>
> > Boston radio market will probably continue to fall because
>
> > the populations of several other radio markets are growing
>
> > at a faster rate.
> >
>
> i agree with that, however, places like florida, north
> carolina,
> arizona, nevada are growing like crazy because thousands and
> thousands
> of retiring baby boomers are moving there for cheaper
> housing,
> lower cost of living and low or no state income taxes. the
> population
> shift is only bound to drive up the housing and other
> related costs
> in those places. take a look at florida - some of the
> average areas
> in florida are already more expensive than fancy areas
> around these parts.
> it what it is.
>
> yet, it's a myth that everyone's packing their bags and
> escaping northeast. what's going on here is a population
> turn-over. northeast is actually getting younger and more
> affluent and still desirable for national advertisers
> seeking 18-49 crowd.
>
> they wouldn't be building an upscale mall and 200 luxury
> condos(all sold out) in natick if everyone with disposable
> income was getting up and leaving the area. metro west is
> actually witnessing a huge baby boom with so many young
> families who moved out of the city in recent years.
>
> this part of the country still has a lot to offer as far as
> good jobs,
> education, medicine, research, culture, sports and arts.
>

After living in NC for years I can tell you that they are more worried about the new people coming into the state. Massachusetts should thank its lucky stars that other states will have to deal with its retirees, low skill/pay workers and other disaffected.
 
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