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A new or pirate station on 88.3 FM?

WBWC has been on 88.3 FM since 1958. There is apparently another signal on 88.3 FM coming presumably from East of Cleveland. For many years, a group has had a construction permit to put a station at 88.3 FM out in the, I think, Painesville area. Is this that new station or is it a pirate from elsewhere? I've heard that they have been playing ethnic music but no one I know has heard any call letters or City of License. I wonder what their power and pattern looks like.
 
They haven't given call letters yet, but they are called La Nueva Mia Latin Radio Station 88.3fm. You were right, they are based in Painesville.

There is a woman named Jessica Serrano, also on air at Super Potencia Latina WSPL 90.7 in Cleveland, who is the operations manager of the new station.
 
Not familiar with 90.7. Are they legal? The reason I ask is that back in the 1990s, Cleveland non-commercial band was all of a sudden flooded with Spanish language pirate stations. One or two migrated onto the commercial part of the band too. I remember they were said to have all bought cheap 20 watt transmitters from Canada. After quite some time, the FCC came a calling and they were finally taken off the air.
 
johnbasalla said:
Not familiar with 90.7. Are they legal? The reason I ask is that back in the 1990s, Cleveland non-commercial band was all of a sudden flooded with Spanish language pirate stations. One or two migrated onto the commercial part of the band too. I remember they were said to have all bought cheap 20 watt transmitters from Canada. After quite some time, the FCC came a calling and they were finally taken off the air.

You may be right about 90.7. The FCC shut down a station with the same call letters on 90.7 eleven years ago. The call letters actually belong to an AM sports station in Illinois.
 
WHWN 88.3 FM is not a pirate station. WHWN was granted 700 watts. The facility id number is 85786 and it went on the air Saturday. Yes is a Spanish station and the first in the Painesville area. Any information should be directed to Nelson Cintron Jr President of WHWN 440-853-6818.

Point of clarification Jessica Serrano is not part of the radio station, also
I do agree, I am totally against pirate station and 90.7 FM was shut down by the FCC about 11 years ago, but again they are broadcasting in Cleveland, Ohio as a pirate station on 87.9 FM which is Interfering with 88.1 FM WZIP.

Thank you Nelson Cintron Jr
 
I wonder why the FCC would put a station on the SAME frequency in the same market? 700 Watts? You can hear this station loud and clear in Parma yet I can barely hear WJCU which is 2000 watts and they are in university heights which is a LOT closer. Also.....wbwc should have a stronger signal being that its 4000 watts. This doesn't make any sense unless this station has their tower pointed where they shouldnt or they are broadcasting with more wattage than they should. I think its shady a station would even go on the air using the same frequency as someone else and mind boggling that the FCC would even ALLOW this to even happen. There have been a lot of complaints alreadt at wbwc about the "other 88.3" interfering with the signal as close as parma/pARMA hts. Something needs to be done about this. Couldnt they use a diff frequency? 88.5? 88.9? This is crazy!
 
johnbasalla said:
Not familiar with 90.7. Are they legal? The reason I ask is that back in the 1990s, Cleveland non-commercial band was all of a sudden flooded with Spanish language pirate stations. One or two migrated onto the commercial part of the band too. I remember they were said to have all bought cheap 20 watt transmitters from Canada. After quite some time, the FCC came a calling and they were finally taken off the air.

IIRC, there was a piece written about "WSPL" in the PD 12 years ago, which probably got the FCC's attention. The odd thing is, the only other full-time Hispanic license in the area is WNZN/89.1 Lorain... which sells airtime and runs commercials despite being a non-comm station. (Confirmed by numerous sources.)

John, BW has to take action against WHWN immediately for interference. And to think that the NAB concocted a phony-baloney "interference" argument that nearly killed off LPFM in 2000 (and has left LCCC w/o a real broadcast license... forcing us to be internet-only :mad: ).
 
WBWC is directional, with a null towards the NE, most of the signal aimed W/NW. Presumably to protect the John Carroll station. I would assume the new Painesville station would then appear much stronger to the eastsiders.
 
If any regular listener to any station within its legal signal range is hearing interference from another station they should immediately report it to the station, by phone or go to the stations website to find out where an email should be sent.
 
While heading to work downtown EARLY this morning I was able to pick up some fuzzy latino flavor on 88.3fm, started hearing it maybe about a mile southwest of the city on I-90. Now this was while WBWC was still signed off, so it makes sense to me that I should barely be able to pick up a 700 watt station in Painesville on that same frequency.

And if I remember correctly its WZIP that WBWC has to worry about protecting moreso than WJCU
 
AllMightyVoice said:
And if I remember correctly its WZIP that WBWC has to worry about protecting moreso than WJCU

Correct. And WJCU has to protect WSTB, and (believe it or not) CIMX 88.7 -- the 100,000 watter outta Windsor that pretty much wipes out any kind of west side coverage they may have all summer long....

-C
 
cgould said:
AllMightyVoice said:
And if I remember correctly its WZIP that WBWC has to worry about protecting moreso than WJCU

Correct. And WJCU has to protect WSTB, and (believe it or not) CIMX 88.7 -- the 100,000 watter outta Windsor that pretty much wipes out any kind of west side coverage they may have all summer long....

-C


This does indeed seem to be a legally licensed station. The following is from the FCC database:

WHWN OH PAINESVILLE USA

Licensee: LA CADENA MUNDIAL HISPANA, INC.
Service Designation: FM 'Full Service' FM station or application

Channel/Class: 202A Frequency: 88.3 MHz Construction Permit
File No.: BPED-19970311MA Facility ID number: 85786
CDBS Application ID No.: 242448

41° 42' 17.00" N Latitude
81° 14' 34.00" W Longitude (NAD 27)

Polarization: Horizontal Vertical
Effective Radiated Power (ERP): 0.7 0.7 kW ERP

I hope these folks realize that their ERP is 700 watts and they are not actually pumping
700 watts out of the transmitter into the antenna.
 
Once again I don’t understand what is the big deal? WHWN is a legal Station. We waited for a long time to get approve by the FCC. Is their a problem with the format?[/color] If so just give me a call. I have all ready posted that contact information a while back.
Here it is again 440-853-6818 or 216-214-0176 ask for Nelson
 
I think it's great we have a new station, I discovered it last night. It's been on air, I think ,about 2 or 3 weeks, so they are probably still working out the kinks, and most likely will be doing this for some time to come. If you feel they are intruding over another station, then call them and let them know. They can't fix a problem if they don't know it exists. If you think its crazy that the FCC has done this, then petition Congress to open up more frequencies. I am not sure, but with the abolition of the analog TV, would that free up more frequencies?
 
I stumbled on this when they granted the WHWN calls, but I didn't know the station was on the air.

As it turns out, I'll be driving through its coverage area tomorrow morning on the way to somewhere else.
 
lanuevamia said:
Once again I don’t understand what is the big deal? WHWN is a legal Station. We waited for a long time to get approve by the FCC. Is their a problem with the format?[/color] If so just give me a call. I have all ready posted that contact information a while back.
Here it is again 440-853-6818 or 216-214-0176 ask for Nelson



It's the corporate bullies that don't approve of another low power job on their turf.....simple as that,so they call it a "pirate" since they can't call the hispanic fotmat a "spick" station.

Thanks RF Man for the research...and let our Latino freinds fufill their mission.... and as for you rabid-butt corporate bullies, go after the REAL pirates that air profanity-filled gangsta or demonic death metal...sheeesh!
 
The discussion here has nothing to do with programming that is aired, only about the technical issues revolving around broadcast signals.
 
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