A question to ponder.

[vsa]

Go to www.shoutcast.com . It lists most publicly listed mp3 radio streams across the world by format.

Do a search there for "talk" stations or programs. Shoutcast.com lists the number of folks listening RIGHT NOW.

Who's #1 and is ALWAYS listed at the top of the list? On normal weekdays, this 4-hour talk show (live 9am-1pm Pacific Time and looped 24/7), has an AQH online audience approaching 10,000. That's 8 to 10 times its #2 online competition.

Assuming this is a free country, my question is - why is Alex Jones not on the air in Los Angeles?

 

[ericdxx]

If I was in charge on a talk station I might give him a shot but you have to consider a couple of things. The conspiracy community thrive on internet. Internet is the primary source for anything related to that kind of stuff. The mass appeal is limited as is evident when it comes to Coast to Coast and its timeslot.

Alex Jones is a pretty shitty host IMO. His interviews are sometimes awful.

 

[vsa]

If I was in charge on a talk station I might give him a shot but you have to consider a couple of things. The conspiracy community thrive on internet. Internet is the primary source for anything related to that kind of stuff. The mass appeal is limited as is evident when it comes to Coast to Coast and its timeslot.

Alex Jones is a pretty shitty host IMO. His interviews are sometimes awful.

So you admit to already having been a listener prior to your message posting.

Interesting. Thanks for that information.

 

[ericdxx]

Actually I'm part of a damage control operation that try to keep Alex Jones off the air in L.A.

 

[almaniac27]

He's not on the air because of a giant conspiracy involving the CIA, the FBI, the Communists, the Illuminati, the Jesuits, and the Jews. Uh-oh, I have to go, the black helicopters are circling my house!

 

[WTFman]

"If I was in charge on a talk station I might give him a shot but you have to consider a couple of things. The conspiracy community thrive on internet. Internet is the primary source for anything related to that kind of stuff. The mass appeal is limited as is evident when it comes to Coast to Coast and its timeslot.
Alex Jones is a pretty shitty host IMO. His interviews are sometimes awful."

---I thought Coast to Coast was quite successful as a commercial enterprise...but I'm just a radio listener and not "in the industry" so what do I know? I listen to it sometimes--when it's not tooo stupid.
Lots of media seem to do well with conspiracy stuff. Alex Jones could surely draw more listeners than some of the infomercials playing these days--although I have no idea who'd buy ads to run on his show. Maybe some of the same businesses that buy talk radio spots elsewhere. I mean, Alex Jones surely could inspire many of the unwashed to buy gold...as well as survival gear, weapons, fishing and hunting equipment, solar-crankup-disaster radios, books--crackpot and otherwise. KPFK has a thriving community of Roy of Hollywood listeners (generally tending Left) from midnight to six who'd be interested in the same stuff many of Glenn Beck's fans want to know about.
I think it would be a viable over the air show but the radio station that chooses to broadcast him must expect to remain dissed by the extant power structure who currently don't even acknowledge his existence. On the other hand, I do think Jones stands an excellent chance of fairly quickly hanging himself if he's given a modest amount of (FCC regulated) rope.

 

[davideduardo]

---I thought Coast to Coast was quite successful as a commercial enterprise...but I'm just a radio listener and not "in the industry" so what do I know? I listen to it sometimes--when it's not tooo stupid.

The show is a success for the syndicator, and good overnight fill for stations. Seldom does a local station make money selling overnight spots... seldom do the even sell any spots overnight...

 

[Mediafrog+]

Besides the Internet, Alex Jones also has a presence on shortwave, by way of WWCR in Nashville. The show is run live during the day with a repeat at night.

Jones is a whack job, but oddly entertaining if you are amused by the ridiculous.

He's not on the air because of a giant conspiracy involving the CIA, the FBI, the Communists, the Illuminati, the Jesuits, and the Jews. Uh-oh, I have to go, the black helicopters are circling my house!

You forget to mention the Bilderberg Group and the Trilateral Commission, two favorite Alex Jones targets.

 

[vsa]

I find it interesting how so many folks here know so much about Alex Jones and have a negative opinion of him. But that indicates that they must have listened to him somewhere sometime. Or are some speaking out of ignorance.

I used to think he was a little far out, but he keeps pointing to verifiable documents, links to under-reported news stories, the Climate Change scam, Climate-Gate and the like. Opinions on these may differ, but this hardly makes him a kook. His well-produced movies are even a hit on YouTube. I just thought he's got to be a stronger draw than a lot of what I hear on the air in L-A.

Hearing Jones kind of reminds me of my reaction to hearing Rush Limbaugh when he was on K-WINK 670 in Simi Valley, before KABC passed on him and KFI snapped him up.

 

[vsa]

Online "now listening" numbers to TALK RADIO via Shoutcast.com at NOON PST MONDAY 1/4/2010

9,431  Alex Jones
1,447  KCRW
1,070  KPCC
  550    WABC
  398    KGO
  271    WLS
  221    KABC

Jones took first-time-only callers during the 11 am PST hour. Much younger sounding than Limbaugh's callers.

 

[davideduardo]

Online "now listening" numbers to TALK RADIO via Shoutcast.com at NOON PST MONDAY 1/4/2010

9,431 Alex Jones
1,447 KCRW
1,070 KPCC
550 WABC
398 KGO
271 WLS
221 KABC

Jones took first-time-only callers during the 11 am PST hour. Much younger sounding than Limbaugh's callers.

AQH listening for Limbaugh average for a representative number of months in 2009 just on KFI, just in the LA Metro, was around 60,000 persons. LA has about 4% of the US population, so a pure extrapolation would be 1.5 million persons nationally.

The shoutcast numbers are incomplete and not representative of the talk show universe.

 

[vsa]

The shoutcast numbers are incomplete and not representative of the talk show universe.

As usual, you are correct. I'm trying to compare apples to apples, a sample of online listening to online listening - incomplete as it is because many outlets prefer to keep their online listening figures private. I can see why. Limbaugh's audience has been aging. Jones appears to have a younger audience, something advertisers want and radio stations covet.

 

[davideduardo]

The shoutcast numbers are incomplete and not representative of the talk show universe.

As usual, you are correct. I'm trying to compare apples to apples, a sample of online listening to online listening - incomplete as it is because many outlets prefer to keep their online listening figures private. I can see why. Limbaugh's audience has been aging. Jones appears to have a younger audience, something advertisers want and radio stations covet.

The issue is that the Shoutcast numbers do not reflect all streaming... most stations are not on shoutcast, and use other services or methods to stream. So you are essentially comparing shoutcast's unique field of options to each other, not to the total streaming universe.

 

[KevinFodor]

The shoutcast numbers are incomplete and not representative of the talk show universe.

As usual, you are correct. I'm trying to compare apples to apples, a sample of online listening to online listening - incomplete as it is because many outlets prefer to keep their online listening figures private. I can see why. Limbaugh's audience has been aging. Jones appears to have a younger audience, something advertisers want and radio stations covet.

Rush's numbers skew older because he is primarily on AM radio stations...and few people under 45 listen to AM radio.

Look at his 25-54 numbers in a market where he's now on an established FM radio station, and you'll see those numbers are actually quite good.

 

[vsa]

The shoutcast numbers are incomplete and not representative of the talk show universe.

As usual, you are correct. I'm trying to compare apples to apples, a sample of online listening to online listening - incomplete as it is because many outlets prefer to keep their online listening figures private. I can see why. Limbaugh's audience has been aging. Jones appears to have a younger audience, something advertisers want and radio stations covet.

The issue is that the Shoutcast numbers do not reflect all streaming... most stations are not on shoutcast, and use other services or methods to stream. So you are essentially comparing shoutcast's unique field of options to each other, not to the total streaming universe.

Shoutcast.com measures more than 33-thousand radio streams which use Shoutcast MP3 and AAC servers. Alex Jones is often in the TOP 5. No matter how you slice it, that is quite an achievement. A thinking person would think it to be foolish to NOT consider making use of such a large listener draw. Ever go to a smaller market to find emerging talent? Remember, Jones is doing this without the aid of numerous 50,000 watt major market flamethrowers or a major marketing campaign to spread the word to potential listeners.

Look at every talk show now on the air in Los Angeles and take any of them off-the-terrestrial-radio-air and see how few manage to gather anything in the same league in what Jones gets ONLINE with an MP3 stream.

 

[ChannelFlipper]

The shoutcast numbers are incomplete and not representative of the talk show universe.

As usual, you are correct. I'm trying to compare apples to apples, a sample of online listening to online listening - incomplete as it is because many outlets prefer to keep their online listening figures private. I can see why. Limbaugh's audience has been aging. Jones appears to have a younger audience, something advertisers want and radio stations covet.

The issue is that the Shoutcast numbers do not reflect all streaming... most stations are not on shoutcast, and use other services or methods to stream. So you are essentially comparing shoutcast's unique field of options to each other, not to the total streaming universe.

Shoutcast.com measures more than 33-thousand radio streams which use Shoutcast MP3 and AAC servers. Alex Jones is often in the TOP 5. No matter how you slice it, that is quite an achievement. A thinking person would think it to be foolish to NOT consider making use of such a large listener draw. Ever go to a smaller market to find emerging talent? Remember, Jones is doing this without the aid of numerous 50,000 watt major market flamethrowers or a major marketing campaign to spread the word to potential listeners.

Look at every talk show now on the air in Los Angeles and take any of them off-the-terrestrial-radio-air and see how few manage to gather anything in the same league in what Jones gets ONLINE with an MP3 stream.

So as his publicist, how much of a cut do you get in the extremely unlikely event that this guerrilla marketing campaign of yours actually achieves its goal?

 

[vsa]

So as his publicist, how much of a cut do you get in the extremely unlikely event that this guerrilla marketing campaign of yours actually achieves its goal?

I hope you and David had a very happy birthday.

I'm not anyone's publicist. Assuming this is a free country, please express in thoughtful language why is it extremely unlikely that Alex Jones will get on the air in Los Angeles? Is my assumption about this being a free country incorrect? Is there a lack of balls on the part of the handful of bankrupt or near-bankrupt corporations which control most of the major signals in L-A? Is there a problem with their banksters? Is Jones incapable of stirring up a controversy and attracting a size-able and sale-able audience?

 

[vsa]

During these ten days, without seeing any comments on why it's unlikely that Alex Jones will get on the air in Los Angeles, I've been doing some thinking. If you watch his latest movie online at the link below, I think you'll understand why it'll never happen. Too many feathers get ruffled.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VebOTc-7shU