A Real Stretch - WHPA Honesdale

[masterg]

Man, this is really pushing it, but does anyone here remember WHPA in Honesdale? WHPA was Wayne County's very first ever radio station, going on the air in about 1970. It was a 500 watt daytimer located on Main St. in Honesdale. Actually, it was on the third floor, up over a shoe store and a chiropractor. Its freq was 1590, a signal that barely got out of town, although they claimed to be The Big Lake Region's Radio Station.

 

[NEPAstach]

> Man, this is really pushing it, but does anyone here
> remember WHPA in Honesdale? WHPA was Wayne County's very
> first ever radio station, going on the air in about 1970.
> It was a 500 watt daytimer located on Main St. in Honesdale.
> Actually, it was on the third floor, up over a shoe store
> and a chiropractor. Its freq was 1590, a signal that barely
> got out of town, although they claimed to be The Big Lake
> Region's Radio Station.
>


The station was managed and co-owned by a guy named Ken Rogers, who looked like the actor that played in the TV show The Millionaire. One of the original jocks was Terry Clark, who later went on be a cook at a local Wayne County Resort or something. I believe he has since passed away.

Rogers (also deceased) was conning the other owner allegedly out of loads of money and was eventually bought out from what I understand. Vince Sweeney also got this start there back in 1997 or 93. They paid very low apox $100.0 to $130.00 a week, but Rogers was paying his son, who only woked there on Saturday about $500.00 a week in 1971/72 dollars.

 

[yonkstur]

> > but Rogers was paying his son, who only
> woked there on Saturday about $500.00 a week in 1971/72
> dollars.
>
Ahhhh, nepotism. It just wasn't for politicians then!!!!
Yonkstur

 

[masterg]

I'm not sure Rogers was an equity partner, but he was siphoning money out of the place via not only his son, but his wife as well, she was the business manager. Rogers was forced out in what amounted to a palace coup, that was after most of the staff went to the station's owners(who lived in NY)and complained about things. Sweeney was there in 1973, along with Adrian Harrington, Scott Perkins, Chuck Pyle, and as you mentioned, Terry Clark. Frank Cali/Chris Starr was, I do believe, one of the original air-staffers who put the place on the air. Oh, and one other name, Dave London, who eventually ended up as Rock 107's PD. WHPA was about what you might expect; a low-budget to no-budget operation that barely made payroll most weeks. Much of the equipment was either used(abused is more like it)or not of broadcast quality. You are correct about the money, $100 per week was standard. Some jocks were given $75 a week, plus the opportunity to go out and sell the place. Commission was, as I recall, 15%, but getting the commission out of them was next to impossible. I know several people who left WHPA being owed a decent amount of money, which of course, they never saw. Hey, I'm pretty impressed that anyone would remember the place, thanks...





> The station was managed and co-owned by a guy named Ken
> Rogers, who looked like the actor that played in the TV show
> The Millionaire. One of the original jocks was Terry Clark,
> who later went on be a cook at a local Wayne County Resort
> or something. I believe he has since passed away.
>
> Rogers (also deceased) was conning the other owner allegedly
> out of loads of money and was eventually bought out from
> what I understand. Vince Sweeney also got this start there
> back in 1997 or 93. They paid very low apox $100.0 to
> $130.00 a week, but Rogers was paying his son, who only
> woked there on Saturday about $500.00 a week in 1971/72
> dollars.
>

 

[yonkstur]

> I'm not sure Rogers was an equity partner, but he was
> siphoning money out of the place via not only his son, but
> his wife as well, she was the business manager. Rogers was
> forced out in what amounted to a palace coup, that was after
> most of the staff went to the station's owners(who lived in
> NY)and complained about things. Sweeney was there in 1973,
> along with Adrian Harrington, Scott Perkins, Chuck Pyle, and
> as you mentioned, Terry Clark. Frank Cali/Chris Starr was,
> I do believe, one of the original air-staffers who put the
> place on the air.

Does anyone know the career path and whereabouts of Chuck
Pyle?
Yonkstur

 

[NEPAstach]

> I'm not sure Rogers was an equity partner, but he was
> siphoning money out of the place via not only his son, but
> his wife as well, she was the business manager. Rogers was
> forced out in what amounted to a palace coup, that was after
> most of the staff went to the station's owners(who lived in
> NY)and complained about things. Sweeney was there in 1973,
> along with Adrian Harrington, Scott Perkins, Chuck Pyle, and
> as you mentioned, Terry Clark. Frank Cali/Chris Starr was,
> I do believe, one of the original air-staffers who put the
> place on the air. Oh, and one other name, Dave London, who
> eventually ended up as Rock 107's PD. WHPA was about what
> you might expect; a low-budget to no-budget operation that
> barely made payroll most weeks. Much of the equipment was
> either used(abused is more like it)or not of broadcast
> quality. You are correct about the money, $100 per week was
> standard. Some jocks were given $75 a week, plus the
> opportunity to go out and sell the place. Commission was,
> as I recall, 15%, but getting the commission out of them was
> next to impossible. I know several people who left WHPA
> being owed a decent amount of money, which of course, they
> never saw. Hey, I'm pretty impressed that anyone would
> remember the place, thanks...
>
>
>
>
>
> > The station was managed and co-owned by a guy named Ken
> > Rogers, who looked like the actor that played in the TV
> show
> > The Millionaire. One of the original jocks was Terry
> Clark,
> > who later went on be a cook at a local Wayne County Resort
>
> > or something. I believe he has since passed away.
> >
> > Rogers (also deceased) was conning the other owner
> allegedly
> > out of loads of money and was eventually bought out from
> > what I understand. Vince Sweeney also got this start there
>
> > back in 1997 or 93. They paid very low apox $100.0 to
> > $130.00 a week, but Rogers was paying his son, who only
> > woked there on Saturday about $500.00 a week in 1971/72
> > dollars.
> >
>
Do you know if Terry Clark passed away for sure? I only heard that and the person wasn't sure if it was true or not.

 

[masterg]

Let me try and answer a couple questions here in one post...

Adrian Harrington most assuredly did die within the last ten years or so. Terry Clark, I am not so sure. My guess, and that's all it is, is that the individual who told me Terry had died confused him with Adrian, which I can understand. At one time, say 73-76, these guys were inseperable, if you saw one, you'd see the other.

Chuck Pyle was a really nice kid, maybe 18 or 19 when I worked with him. His family had lived in Wayne County, then moved to, I believe, Minnesota, where they continued in their dairy farming business. It was a very odd story. Anyway, Chuck was related to Ernie Pyle, famous WWII photog. Last I knew, and we're talking a million years ago, Chuck landed at WSBA in York. He worked news there under the name of Nathan Raye, which was the air-name he'd wanted to use forever. From there, I have zero idea what happened to him.

God, this is remarkable, but here is a bit of WHPA trivia - Ken Rogers swore he'd had a television show, a western, way back when, it was called The Streets of Laredo. True? I honestly wouldn't doubt it. Ken was, well, a man of "near greatness," and most of us who worked in radio have known a share of guys like him. He was a genuine character, a man you would not forget. Oh, and good Lord, did he have a set of pipes on him. Ken could rattle windows. The three packs of Pall Malls per day didn't hurt, and the man could drink. <P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by masterg on 03/13/06 12:08 AM.</FONT></P>

 

[GEODNH]

> > I'm not sure Rogers was an equity partner, but he was
> > siphoning money out of the place via not only his son, but
>
> > his wife as well, she was the business manager. Rogers was
>
> > forced out in what amounted to a palace coup, that was
> after
> > most of the staff went to the station's owners(who lived
> in
> > NY)and complained about things. Sweeney was there in
> 1973,
> > along with Adrian Harrington, Scott Perkins, Chuck Pyle,
> and
> > as you mentioned, Terry Clark. Frank Cali/Chris Starr
> was,
> > I do believe, one of the original air-staffers who put the
>
> > place on the air. Oh, and one other name, Dave London,
> who
> > eventually ended up as Rock 107's PD. WHPA was about what
>
> > you might expect; a low-budget to no-budget operation that
>
> > barely made payroll most weeks. Much of the equipment was
>
> > either used(abused is more like it)or not of broadcast
> > quality. You are correct about the money, $100 per week
> was
> > standard. Some jocks were given $75 a week, plus the
> > opportunity to go out and sell the place. Commission was,
>
> > as I recall, 15%, but getting the commission out of them
> was
> > next to impossible. I know several people who left WHPA
> > being owed a decent amount of money, which of course, they
>
> > never saw. Hey, I'm pretty impressed that anyone would
> > remember the place, thanks...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > The station was managed and co-owned by a guy named Ken
> > > Rogers, who looked like the actor that played in the TV
> > show
> > > The Millionaire. One of the original jocks was Terry
> > Clark,
> > > who later went on be a cook at a local Wayne County
> Resort
> >
> > > or something. I believe he has since passed away.
> > >
> > > Rogers (also deceased) was conning the other owner
> > allegedly
> > > out of loads of money and was eventually bought out from
>
> > > what I understand. Vince Sweeney also got this start
> there
> >
> > > back in 1997 or 93. They paid very low apox $100.0 to
> > > $130.00 a week, but Rogers was paying his son, who only
> > > woked there on Saturday about $500.00 a week in 1971/72
> > > dollars.
> > >
> .....I grew up listening to HPA or as it was affectionately known WHOPPA!
Ken Rogers Jr. was a real wise ass,he used to take his recorder out on the street and record people and play them back on the air, we used to bug the hell out of him.. Despite being an AM daytimer, the station had a pretty decent signal I lived in Bethany and had no problems hearing it.It covered a pretty decent area from Waymart to Hawley. The people who worked at the station were always very visible in the community.The station was never without it's share of controversy,I remember a jock named Al B. Lake, he got canned for his intro of a Linda Ronstadt song.He said "here's Linda Ronstadt, and Blue Bayou, and you and you and you".He later opened a head shop on main street in Honesdale.
Adrian Harrington passed away in the mid 90's, he actually returned to the station around 1993 for a brief stint.Adrian was always starting something to get people going,he used to play "Dead Skunk" every morning at the same time one summer. I hired Chris Starr back in 90, I don't remember hearing him back in the 70's, he never mentioned working at HPA when he was here in the early 90's...some fond memories.
>

 

[NEPAstach]

> Let me try and answer a couple questions here in one post...
>
>
> Adrian Harrington most assuredly did die within the last ten
> years or so. Terry Clark, I am not so sure. My guess, and
> that's all it is, is that the individual who told me Terry
> had died confused him with Adrian, which I can understand.
> At one time, say 73-76, these guys were inseperable, if you
> saw one, you'd see the other.
>
> Chuck Pyle was a really nice kid, maybe 18 or 19 when I
> worked with him. His family had lived in Wayne County, then
> moved to, I believe, Minnesota, where they continued in
> their dairy farming business. It was a very odd story.
> Anyway, Chuck was related to Ernie Pyle, famous WWII photog.
> Last I knew, and we're talking a million years ago, Chuck
> landed at WSBA in York. He worked news there under the name
> of Nathan Raye, which was the air-name he'd wanted to use
> forever. From there, I have zero idea what happened to him.
>
>
> God, this is remarkable, but here is a bit of WHPA trivia -
> Ken Rogers swore he'd had a television show, a western, way
> back when, it was called The Streets of Laredo. True? I
> honestly wouldn't doubt it. Ken was, well, a man of "near
> greatness," and most of us who worked in radio have known a
> share of guys like him. He was a genuine character, a man
> you would not forget. Oh, and good Lord, did he have a set
> of pipes on him. Ken could rattle windows. The three packs
> of Pall Malls per day didn't hurt, and the man could drink.
>
There was also another guy by the name of Danny Donawitcz (spelling ?) who came from the Pittsbug area. He did middays and only was there a short timr became disillusioned with PA radio and went back home. There was also another jock, I think his name was Bill Target(?). He worked the early evening shift before sign off for a short time. The junk they bought for equipment came from WARM's Charlie Morgan. Old, old cart machine's that the jocks had to cut off their mics before hitting a cart button because it sounded like a sledge hammer hitting the "on" button. An old Ampex 601 in the production that believe it or not had a pencil in back to hold up the motor. The mic was an old RCA that sounded like a tin can, buy worse. The jingle package was a Pepper Tanner trade out called "All the Good Songs", if I also remember correctly. SOme of the staff had to pull 7 days shifts also when the other staff members left. There was one Saturday air shift from 12 noon until sign off, which in the summer was 8:30 or 8:45 pm YIKES!!!

 

[NEPAstach]

> Let me try and answer a couple questions here in one post...
>
>
> Adrian Harrington most assuredly did die within the last ten
> years or so. Terry Clark, I am not so sure. My guess, and
> that's all it is, is that the individual who told me Terry
> had died confused him with Adrian, which I can understand.
> At one time, say 73-76, these guys were inseperable, if you
> saw one, you'd see the other.
>
> Chuck Pyle was a really nice kid, maybe 18 or 19 when I
> worked with him. His family had lived in Wayne County, then
> moved to, I believe, Minnesota, where they continued in
> their dairy farming business. It was a very odd story.
> Anyway, Chuck was related to Ernie Pyle, famous WWII photog.
> Last I knew, and we're talking a million years ago, Chuck
> landed at WSBA in York. He worked news there under the name
> of Nathan Raye, which was the air-name he'd wanted to use
> forever. From there, I have zero idea what happened to him.
>
>
> God, this is remarkable, but here is a bit of WHPA trivia -
> Ken Rogers swore he'd had a television show, a western, way
> back when, it was called The Streets of Laredo. True? I
> honestly wouldn't doubt it. Ken was, well, a man of "near
> greatness," and most of us who worked in radio have known a
> share of guys like him. He was a genuine character, a man
> you would not forget. Oh, and good Lord, did he have a set
> of pipes on him. Ken could rattle windows. The three packs
> of Pall Malls per day didn't hurt, and the man could drink.
>
There was also another guy by the name of Danny Donawitcz (spelling ?) who came from the Pittsbug area. He did middays and only was there a short timr became disillusioned with PA radio and went back home. There was also another jock, I think his name was Bill Target(?). He worked the early evening shift before sign off for a short time. The junk they bought for equipment came from WARM's Charlie Morgan. Old, old cart machine's that the jocks had to cut off their mics before hitting a cart button because it sounded like a sledge hammer hitting the "on" button. An old Ampex 601 in the production that believe it or not had a pencil in back to hold up the motor. The mic was an old RCA that sounded like a tin can, but worse. The jingle package was a Pepper Tanner trade out called "All the Good Songs", if I also remember correctly. Some of the staff had to pull 7 days shifts also when the other staff members left. There was one Saturday air shift from 12 noon until sign off, which in the summer was 8:30 or 8:45 pm YIKES!!!

 

[masterg]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA - honest to God true, we had one Gates cart machine that made a loud KUHHHH-THWOCK when you hit it. That RCA ribbon mic was replaced with a cheapo stick mic from Radio Shack(100% true)shortly after I got there. The pop cover on it was a piece of yellow foam that Adrian scrounged somewhere and rubber-banded to the mic head. Turntables were ancient. We actually had a Sears Silver-Tone reel to reel in the control room. But they'd gotten a new Collins board, but only after the original RCA console kept catching fire. One duty EVERYONE shared, including office staff, was looking down the street at the Honesdale Dime Bank thermometer before entering the building, that way you could tell whoever was on the air what the temp was - we had no thermometer, things were indeed that bad. What you had here was a station that debuted on the air(1970?)without one single piece of new equipment.

The only Danny I remember was Danny DeMuro from Waymart, he worked in both sales and on-air at WHPA for a couple years. Bill Target I knew by name, he'd left by 1973. Terry Clark was an original on-air guy, then he left to manage a station in Vidalia, Georgia, but came back to WHPA as GM after Ken Rogers was shown the door. Terry was mostly a sales guy who jocked when it was absolutley necessary. The sales manager(whatever that was worth)was Scott Perkins, who also did mid-days.

It wasn't hard to be visible in the community. Honesdale's a small town, there's really no place to hide. We were always on the street, in the diners and bars, so you pretty much go to know everybody in town. Those weekend airshifts were both legendary and dreaded by all, they were brutal. Although it was one heck of an experience, it was no small wonder every employee was trying desperately to get out ASAP.




> >
> There was also another guy by the name of Danny Donawitcz
> (spelling ?) who came from the Pittsbug area. He did middays
> and only was there a short timr became disillusioned with PA
> radio and went back home. There was also another jock, I
> think his name was Bill Target(?). He worked the early
> evening shift before sign off for a short time. The junk
> they bought for equipment came from WARM's Charlie Morgan.
> Old, old cart machine's that the jocks had to cut off their
> mics before hitting a cart button because it sounded like a
> sledge hammer hitting the "on" button. An old Ampex 601 in
> the production that believe it or not had a pencil in back
> to hold up the motor. The mic was an old RCA that sounded
> like a tin can, buy worse. The jingle package was a Pepper
> Tanner trade out called "All the Good Songs", if I also
> remember correctly. SOme of the staff had to pull 7 days
> shifts also when the other staff members left. There was one
> Saturday air shift from 12 noon until sign off, which in the
> summer was 8:30 or 8:45 pm YIKES!!!
>

 

[NEPAstach]

> HAHAHAHAHAHAHA - honest to God true, we had one Gates cart
> machine that made a loud KUHHHH-THWOCK when you hit it. That
> RCA ribbon mic was replaced with a cheapo stick mic from
> Radio Shack(100% true)shortly after I got there. The pop
> cover on it was a piece of yellow foam that Adrian scrounged
> somewhere and rubber-banded to the mic head. Turntables
> were ancient. We actually had a Sears Silver-Tone reel to
> reel in the control room. But they'd gotten a new Collins
> board, but only after the original RCA console kept catching
> fire. One duty EVERYONE shared, including office staff, was
> looking down the street at the Honesdale Dime Bank
> thermometer before entering the building, that way you could
> tell whoever was on the air what the temp was - we had no
> thermometer, things were indeed that bad. What you had here
> was a station that debuted on the air(1970?)without one
> single piece of new equipment.
>
> The only Danny I remember was Danny DeMuro from Waymart, he
> worked in both sales and on-air at WHPA for a couple years.
> Bill Target I knew by name, he'd left by 1973. Terry Clark
> was an original on-air guy, then he left to manage a station
> in Vidalia, Georgia, but came back to WHPA as GM after Ken
> Rogers was shown the door. Terry was mostly a sales guy who
> jocked when it was absolutley necessary. The sales
> manager(whatever that was worth)was Scott Perkins, who also
> did mid-days.
>
> It wasn't hard to be visible in the community. Honesdale's
> a small town, there's really no place to hide. We were
> always on the street, in the diners and bars, so you pretty
> much go to know everybody in town. Those weekend airshifts
> were both legendary and dreaded by all, they were brutal.
> Although it was one heck of an experience, it was no small
> wonder every employee was trying desperately to get out
> ASAP.
>
>
>
>
> > >
> > There was also another guy by the name of Danny Donawitcz
> > (spelling ?) who came from the Pittsbug area. He did
> middays
> > and only was there a short timr became disillusioned with
> PA
> > radio and went back home. There was also another jock, I
> > think his name was Bill Target(?). He worked the early
> > evening shift before sign off for a short time. The junk
> > they bought for equipment came from WARM's Charlie Morgan.
>
> > Old, old cart machine's that the jocks had to cut off
> their
> > mics before hitting a cart button because it sounded like
> a
> > sledge hammer hitting the "on" button. An old Ampex 601 in
>
> > the production that believe it or not had a pencil in back
>
> > to hold up the motor. The mic was an old RCA that sounded
> > like a tin can, buy worse. The jingle package was a Pepper
>
> > Tanner trade out called "All the Good Songs", if I also
> > remember correctly. SOme of the staff had to pull 7 days
> > shifts also when the other staff members left. There was
> one
> > Saturday air shift from 12 noon until sign off, which in
> the
> > summer was 8:30 or 8:45 pm YIKES!!!
> >
>

Terry Clark wasn't a GM in Georgia. he did on air and sales I believe. When originally at WHPA, he was being allegedly groomed by station owners who were going to buy another small station in Oil City, PA, but it never went down. A guess Charlie Morgan didn't have anymore junk equipment to sell them for that city. Love to know what happened to him.

 

[masterg]

Terry Clark wasn't a GM in Georgia. he did on air and sales
> I believe. When originally at WHPA, he was being allegedly
> groomed by station owners who were going to buy another
> small station in Oil City, PA, but it never went down. A
> guess Charlie Morgan didn't have anymore junk equipment to
> sell them for that city. Love to know what happened to him.
>

I've oftened wondered myself just what his story was, where he went, what he did, blah, blah, blah. I can only say that the last time I saw Terry Wayne Clark was in August of 1977. I was in Honesdale visiting a friend, and he said, "C'mon, I wanna show you something." So off we went to The Fairway, which was a pretty decent restaurant/bar/lounge out by the fairgrounds. In we walk, and there's Terry tending bar. I always liked Terry, the man was very nice to me, no complaints here. But, sadly, I don't know what ever became of him with certainty. Worse yet, I don't even know who to ask about him...

 

[yonkstur]

> Let me try and answer a couple questions here in one post...
>
>
>
> Chuck Pyle was a really nice kid, maybe 18 or 19 when I
> worked with him. His family had lived in Wayne County, then
> moved to, I believe, Minnesota, where they continued in
> their dairy farming business. It was a very odd story.
> Anyway, Chuck was related to Ernie Pyle, famous WWII photog.
> Last I knew, and we're talking a million years ago, Chuck
> landed at WSBA in York. He worked news there under the name
> of Nathan Raye, which was the air-name he'd wanted to use
> forever. From there, I have zero idea what happened to him.
>
>
> Thanks so much for the update on Chuck Pyle. Chuck and I used
to ride the Trailways Bus from either WB or Scranton to Wash. DC
in the summer of 1972 when we both attended that world famous
bastion of broadcast learning, Career Academy. He was strong
with huge arms and a wrestler's physique. (As a matter of fact
he wrestled in high school). Because he was so nice and quiet,
and not very tall, people underestimated him. The students lived
in this dump on Wisconsin Ave in the NW section of DC. You could
walk 2 blocks and be in Maryland. The place was McLean Gardens
and was a vestige of WWII where government workers stayed in dorm
type rooms. 20 rooms to a floor, one bathroom. (The place is now
converted to condos that go for thousands a month). Anyway, Chuck
was a good student, had a good set of pipes and did in fact want
to use another name. He finished early after getting his third class
ticket and most likely went to the Honesdale station.
As for the dairy farming, let me tell you this story. In training,
they encouraged you to develop a personality. So the set up was
that you did your on air segment with music live in front of your
students. The students sat in an audience and listened to the
show, then gave it a critique. At one point Chuck and another guy
had some friction between them. This was a kid from York who was
a real wise***. Anyway, he starts making fun of dairy farmers on
his show, saying that they are stupid, they inbreed and that their
women were ugly. I look over at Chuck and he's seething. Not saying
anything but doing a slow boil. After class, we head home. Chuck
begins to talk to the guy about wrestling and in a way dares the guy
to take him on. Very diabolical for a country farm boy trying to
outwit the kid from York. The kid takes the bait and right there
on the apartment grounds Chuck starts pinning the guy, then wailing
on him. Really hammered the kid. From that day on, no one made fun
of Dairy Farmers from NEPA, Minnesota or other parts of the country
in Washington, D.C.
Wherever he is, I hope he and his family are well and that the move
to Minnesota was successful beyond their wildest dreams.

Yonkstur

 

[broberts1701]

There were several other people who worked at WHPA..Jack Neyhard (Rob's brother) who's has been working for the Governor's office forever and Bob Reynolds from Newswatch 16. Both did news.

 

[masterg]

> > Thanks so much for the update on Chuck Pyle. Chuck and I
> used
> to ride the Trailways Bus from either WB or Scranton to
> Wash. DC
> in the summer of 1972 when we both attended that world
> famous
> bastion of broadcast learning, Career Academy.


Holy God, this is amazing! Great, great, story. Chuck, as I said, was a really nice guy, and I'm sorry that his whereabouts are completely lost to me. You've reminded me that he'd absolutely been a wrestler in high school. And, yeah, he was indeed a rather quiet type, not very agressive, which as we both know, works against you in this biz. Oddly, it was during the summer of '72 that the broadcasting bug bit me, when I saw the way all of this market's radio stations pulled together after The Agnes Flood. I also spent a lot of that summer in DC, not at school, but rather visiting family/friends, and I seriously thought about Career Academy, then something pretty neat happened - The American Academy of Broadcasting opened a school in W-B. But, as we all say, that's a story for another time.

Chuck got yanked around a bunch at WHPA, worked all sorts of goofy shifts, including a split during the late sign-off months. He'd do AM news, then jock noon-to-three, go home for a few hours, then come back at seven and relieve me. Chuck held my hand the first week at WHPA, and I never forgot him for that, he was just a very nice "kid," I had maybe four of five years on him. Where exactly he was from is kind of fuzzy, it was either Wayne or neighboring Susquehanna County, but the story about his parents(and siblings, too)moving half way across the country is very true. He stayed behind simply because he'd found a job in radio, his life's dream. Before too long, Chuck had his fill of being kicked around, mistreated, and working those longggggg weekend airshifts(as grueling as eight or nine hours), so off he went, but to where, I just do not recall. Replacing Chuck was Dave London, who wasn't yet Dave London, which is also a story for another time. Thanks, Yonkstur!