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A reason why advertisers don't target 55+ audiences

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The first name that sprang to mind in this context was Anita Bryant. A long time ago, but to most people she just made a fool out of herself: Anita Bryant - Wikipedia. A certain congresswoman from Georgia seems to be cast from the same mold...
Interesting you should mention that. The Facebook page for one of the stations I listen to online had a complaint today from someone who said she was homophobic.

The response was should they now vet all their artists to make sure their views are right?
 
Guess it depends. Gene Autry had the highest-billing radio station in America in 1979---KMPC, Los Angeles. $14 million in advertising (about $66 million adjusted for inflation). He employed just under 300 people. So, was he greedy or was he helping all those people feed, clothe, house and educate their families in addition to providing news, entertainment, traffic and sports to the community his station served?

Is the guy who took in less money and could only afford a skeleton staff somehow better?
This is like the arguments about the very wealthy and their $200 million dollar yachts. The real fact is that those $200,000,000 went to workers, craftsmen, makers of engines and hardwood and electronics and their employees and so on.

And it's not like Uncle Scrooge in those Disney comic books I loved as a kit; Scrooge had a "money bin" filled with gold and bills and coins and he would dive in his dough! Today's wealthy have their money tied up in businesses that enhance the economy.

I was looking at Noboa, the new president of Ecuador. His father, with whom I did business years ago, has the largest integrated produce company in the country based principally on bananas and their preparation and shipping. He's worth several billion dollars. But his work to integrate his country's agriculture has created over 20,000 jobs with Social Security payments, participation in the national health care system and more.

So I admire what Gene Autry did with his money: he invested it and in the process created over a thousand jobs in radio and TV.
 
Getting back on topic, 63 Big WAYS outside Charlotte NC has one sponsor for each hour of music, though there might be other advertisers during that hour. Some of the commercials I've heard are for a funeral home, a bowling alley, and heating repair.

The owner likes the music (50 and 60s) and also has a rock leaning classic hits FM with a strong signal, though it doesn't publicize its ratings.
 
What records sell more, clean or uncensored. When the mothers against foul language or what ever it was back in the 90s got parental advisories on everything those records sold like hot cakes.
The PMRC (Parent's Music Resource Center, or as we called them in high school, "Pre-Menstruating Record Critics") were a group of senators wives in 1985, headed by Tipper Gore (Wife of Al Gore) and Susan Baker (Wife of James Baker.) They came together after Tipper Gore overheard "Darling Nikki" Prince on her daughter's stereo. Sensing the impending collapse of civilization, they assembled a list of "vulgar" songs called the Filthy Fifteen (and thus the very first viral '80s playlist.)

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And Mercyful Fate and Venom were fringe early Black Metal bands that had little airplay outside of the Metal show on some 10 watt college station. But since their lyrics included occult imagery, they thought including them will get the religious moms worked up too (they knew an ally when they saw one because these moms hate rock n' roll just as much.) This came to a head at a senate hearing including a spectrum of artists including Dee Snider, John Denver, Frank Zappa, and Donny Osmond.

Osmond's concern was prophetic: He knew sales of Parental Advixory stickered records were going to be far better with teenagers than the non-PA stickered ones. But primarily, would he have to make hardcore records to survive? (Fortunately, he didn't.)

The aftermath was to be cool and sell to teenagers, you needed a PA sticker on your record. The hipness factor of the sticker has never went away. But there is enough room in pop for folks who didn't want hot language and artists who existed without PA stickers sell just as well.
 
The PMRC (Parent's Music Resource Center, or as we called them in high school, "Pre-Menstruating Record Critics") were a group of senators wives in 1985, headed by Tipper Gore (Wife of Al Gore) and Susan Baker (Wife of James Baker.) They came together after Tipper Gore overheard "Darling Nikki" Prince on her daughter's stereo. Sensing the impending collapse of civilization, they assembled a list of "vulgar" songs called the Filthy Fifteen (and thus the very first viral '80s playlist.)

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And Mercyful Fate and Venom were fringe early Black Metal bands that had little airplay outside of the Metal show on some 10 watt college station. But since their lyrics included occult imagery, they thought including them will get the religious moms worked up too (they knew an ally when they saw one because these moms hate rock n' roll just as much.) This came to a head at a senate hearing including a spectrum of artists including Dee Snider, John Denver, Frank Zappa, and Donny Osmond.

Osmond's concern was prophetic: He knew sales of Parental Advixory stickered records were going to be far better with teenagers than the non-PA stickered ones. But primarily, would he have to make hardcore records to survive? (Fortunately, he didn't.)

The aftermath was to be cool and sell to teenagers, you needed a PA sticker on your record. The hipness factor of the sticker has never went away. But there is enough room in pop for folks who didn't want hot language and artists who existed without PA stickers sell just as well.
The voice of Christian broadcaster Bob Larson, warning about backward masking and having demons call his 800 number continue to echo from the dark past of the 80s.
 
Lemme blow your mind. See, there are these things called radio edits. You can bleep, blank, or (my favorite) reverse the offending word. Been around forever. It's how Pink Floyd's "Money" got on AM Top 40 radio 51 years ago.
I worked at FM Album Rock stations that played "Money", "Who Are You", "Jet Airliner" and other songs that had fleeting profanities. We always played the album versions unedited. I don't recall ever getting a single complaint from anyone.

It's curious that cable channels like AMC will censor movies like The Godfather for language. However, they have no problem showing dismemberment and gore in the Walking Dead...
 
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I worked at FM Album Rock stations that played "Money", "Who Are You", "Jet Airliner" and other songs that had fleeting profanities. We always played the album versions unedited. I don't recall ever getting a single complaint from anyone...
I was somewhat floored when visiting San Francisco in 1993 when I heard KITS (Live 105) play Radiohead's "Creep" - the unexpurgated version. Afterwards, Steve Masters went into a riff on the fact that they played the version that we might call here the "trucking special" version rather the "very special" sanitized version.
 
So I admire what Gene Autry did with his money: he invested it and in the process created over a thousand jobs in radio and TV.
Not too bad for a guy who started out as a railroad telegraph operator. And...also not counting his Flying A production company and tons of real estate investments.
 
I was somewhat floored when visiting San Francisco in 1993 when I heard KITS (Live 105) play Radiohead's "Creep" - the unexpurgated version. Afterwards, Steve Masters went into a riff on the fact that they played the version that we might call here the "trucking special" version rather the "very special" sanitized version.
R.E.M.'s "What's The Frequency Kenneth" ends with the line-- "Don't F*** With Me". It's kind of garbled, but stations played that unedited.

There are many examples, but we were never playing songs for shock value just because of a profanity. If the song fit the format, we played it. Maybe times were different then. Listeners nor advertisers ever complained...
 
R.E.M.'s "What's The Frequency Kenneth" ends with the line-- "Don't F*** With Me". It's kind of garbled, but stations played that unedited.

There are many examples, but we were never playing songs for shock value just because of a profanity. If the song fit the format, we played it. Maybe times were different then. Listeners nor advertisers ever complained...
The point is that the "F" word was one of the known "dirty words" the would cause the FCC to take action. The reason why nothing happened, in all likelihood, is that nobody filed a complaint. The FCC does not and did not monitor every station and every song for profanities.

Beyond that, you do not know that stations did not play songs with profanities for either shock value or to establish credibility among their target audience by being perceived as the station that played the "real versions" of those songs.

The issue is not whether listeners or advertisers complain to the station. That can be filed under the "So What?" category. It's about whether a listener, one of the protect-the-morals-of-the-nation groups or even another station taped the incident and filed a proper FCC complaint. In the cases you mention, it is obvious that nobody did.
 
The point is that the "F" word was one of the known "dirty words" the would cause the FCC to take action. The reason why nothing happened, in all likelihood, is that nobody filed a complaint. The FCC does not and did not monitor every station and every song for profanities.

Beyond that, you do not know that stations did not play songs with profanities for either shock value or to establish credibility among their target audience by being perceived as the station that played the "real versions" of those songs.

The issue is not whether listeners or advertisers complain to the station. That can be filed under the "So What?" category. It's about whether a listener, one of the protect-the-morals-of-the-nation groups or even another station taped the incident and filed a proper FCC complaint. In the cases you mention, it is obvious that nobody did.
I suppose nobody ever did. I also worked at a station that would not play "edited" versions of songs. We only played full length album versions. In the case of "Who Are You", we simply did not play it. We had 15 other Who songs that were equally good without the F word. We just played those instead.

Considering how decorum has disappeared in society, it seems absurd that anyone would be offended by profanities in music...
 
Lyric content in rock radio mattered during a brief period when parents of teens were listening, heard what they considered to be offensive, and complained. Once we got past that point (as rock became very much an 18+ and then a 25+ format), that wasn't an issue, and the people who listened to stations that played songs like the unedited "Money", "Who Are You" or "Jet Airliner" were extremely unlikely to complain.
 
Considering how decorum has disappeared in society, it seems absurd that anyone would be offended by profanities in music...
But, unless the Commission makes a new ruling, the current standards apply.
 
Guess it depends. Gene Autry had the highest-billing radio station in America in 1979---KMPC, Los Angeles. $14 million in advertising (about $66 million adjusted for inflation). He employed just under 300 people. So, was he greedy or was he helping all those people feed, clothe, house and educate their families in addition to providing news, entertainment, traffic and sports to the community his station served?

Is the guy who took in less money and could only afford a skeleton staff somehow better?
Was Gene just in the right place right time. Would he be able to have that same success today.
 
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