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A signal underneath the new station on 950 AM...

While Christmas music is playing, I hear very slightly underneath some sports talk. Any idea what station that could be? I don't think it would be something local, would it?
 
It depends upon your location relative to theirs! I'm at the South Jersey Coast. What skip I'll get at 6:38pm will be different that what you'll get in say Pottstown or Coatesville or Allentown. Where are you Youngin' Oldie?
 
amfmsw said:
It depends upon your location relative to theirs! I'm at the South Jersey Coast. What skip I'll get at 6:38pm will be different that what you'll get in say Pottstown or Coatesville or Allentown. Where are you Youngin' Oldie?

Trenton, NJ here.
 
Here from Brooklyn, NY on my HD Tuner, WKDN is loud and almost clear, but I do hear some talk barely in WKDN's signal which is in and out of HD (surprisingly WPEN gave the HD Transmitter to WKDN). There is a sports radio station in West Virginia on 950, WBES. Maybe that's the radio station behind WKDN.
 
AlNYRadio said:
Here from Brooklyn, NY on my HD Tuner, WKDN is loud and almost clear, but I do hear some talk barely in WKDN's signal which is in and out of HD (surprisingly WPEN gave the HD Transmitter to WKDN). There is a sports radio station in West Virginia on 950, WBES. Maybe that's the radio station behind WKDN.

I suspect that WBES is the one. Just after the WPEN signoff I was getting Fox Sports, which WBES carries. It faded before I could hear any local announcements.
 
Much depends on the time of day for the reception, especially in winter. When was it, Y.O. ?

If the issue was pure, natural reception, and if it was 3PM or later, WXGI Richmond is listed as Sports by Radio-Locator.

Another possibility is Charleston WV, WBES. They're right along that stretch of terrain on which so many AM stations travel during the mid-winter anomaly (nighttime skip in broad daylight).

And I realize that 920 Trenton is not listed as sports, but even the best radios get mixing spurs within the radio.
Perhaps apropos of not much, but in Eastern Queens we used to get WCBS 880 also on 850, though much weaker. As relative kids that confused us. The 'signal' turned out to be within the radios themselves (and they were pretty good radios). The math went 2 times 880, minus two times the 455 thing.
1760 munis 910.
850.

That 455 math doesn't work vis-a-vis 920 and 950, but if you're real close to WCHR's beam or to their towers, the effect might be similar; they could me mixing with a third station. And nowadays they use a different value from 455 kHz, so that would throw off the math. But that's a long shot.

The main possibility is WXGI Richmond, I'd say. One night they apparently forgot to power down and were solid on 950 for an hour. We live 90-100 miles north of Philadelphia ourselves.
 
When I got WKDN in New York City, it was about 11 AM when it's best. It works 24/7 where I have it.
 
Steve Green NEPA said:
Another possibility is Charleston WV, WBES. They're right along that stretch of terrain on which so many AM stations travel during the mid-winter anomaly (nighttime skip in broad daylight).

It's the season for that. Yesterday around 3 PM or so I pulled in KDKA, WTAM and WKBW, and even traces of WHK.
 
During afternoon Critical Hours(2 hrs. before sunset to sunset), my station, WVCH, takes a pounding from the740 on Long Island and 740 in Toronto.
You can hear the 3 carriers mixing together, causing a whooshing sound. It's very noticeable on a car radio. An extreme example can be found on 1520 kHz, where daytime WCHE gets clobbered by by WWKB. As it gets dark, Buffalo is also hammered by 2 stations on the international frequency of 1521 kHz. One is a 500 kW Radio China International outlet in Urumchi, China: the other is a 2000 kw monster in northwest Saudi Arabia. They produce a 1000 Hz beat note on 1520 that's so strong that WWKB is well nigh unlistenable some nights.
 
Christmas Day afternoon, I tuned into the "new" 950 for the first time. Heard a basketball game. Wondered "What...". Then moved from the dining room to the kitchen and started hearing the Christmas music. Newark, Delaware.
 
If you hear Spanish announcers, a ticking noise every second, and a Morse code beep at the top of every minute, that's Radio Reloj from Cuba. I've heard them underneath 570 WMCA and 950 WPEN (now WKDN) at night.
 
Radio Reloj(Radio Clock)stations are on many other frequencies as well. There's a Radio Rebelde on 710 thatclobbers WOR some nights.
 
Rick B. said:
Steve Green NEPA said:
Another possibility is Charleston WV, WBES. They're right along that stretch of terrain on which so many AM stations travel during the mid-winter anomaly (nighttime skip in broad daylight).

It's the season for that. Yesterday around 3 PM or so I pulled in KDKA, WTAM and WKBW, and even traces of WHK.


Traces of Cleveland 1420 on the eastern seaboard? Striking. In all my day, never could catch that.


DG02816 said:
During afternoon Critical Hours(2 hrs. before sunset to sunset), my station, WVCH, takes a pounding from the 740 on Long Island and 740 in Toronto.
You can hear the 3 carriers mixing together, causing a whooshing sound. It's very noticeable on a car radio. An extreme example can be found on 1520 kHz, where daytime WCHE gets clobbered by by WWKB. As it gets dark, Buffalo is also hammered by 2 stations on the international frequency of 1521 kHz. One is a 500 kW Radio China International outlet in Urumchi, China: the other is a 2000 kw monster in northwest Saudi Arabia. They produce a 1000 Hz beat note on 1520 that's so strong that WWKB is well nigh unlistenable some nights.


Dave, you've mentioned this before. That's astounding. So much for the North American Regional Broadcasting Agreement.
 
I've snagged the 'tick-tick' and time in the cars here at the coast day and night, and thought I was going nuts. I haven't heard that since I was a kid, calibrating radio ponters and dials with CHB Canada! Thanks.
 
Getting WHK in the Philadelphia area daytime seems unlikely. What about WCOJ? WHK would have to be pretty hot to come in over WHK. The daytime skywave has been hot this month though.
 
DanStrassberg said:
Sam Lit said:
Traces of Cleveland 1420 on the eastern seaboard? Striking. In all my day, never could catch that.

You sure the reference is to 1420? Aren't the WHK calls now on 1220 in Cleveland?

No, the WHK calls have bounced around the Cleveland dial (including a spell on 1220) but are now back on 1420. The 1220 is WHKW these days.

And yes, WHK 1420 is what I heard--not well, but it was distinguishable. I'm in the Trenton area and WCOJ is not a factor here; if I still lived where I used to in Cherry Hill the frequency probably would have been all WCOJ. (Just for fun I took a crack at 1420 a little while ago, closer to sunset; it was a battle between WACK Newark NY with Syracuse-Cincinnati basketball and WKCW Warrenton VA with "Our Lips Are Sealed" by the Go-Gos.)
 
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