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AAR/1190 WLIB asking for donations

I'm curious; do you call what Jerry Lewis does begging? What about the benefit concerts for the victims of Hurricane Katrina? Do you call that begging too?

Your thread title is a lie. 1190 WLIB has nothing to do with this. That was just your way of getting this post on the NY board.
 
> Is Air America Radio having cash flow problems? And if
> operating capital dries up will Inner-City Broadcasting pull
> the plug on the 1190 WLIB tennant?
>
> One sign of a possible budget crunch: AAR is asking
> listeners to send money. NPR does it. Soupy Sales did it.
> Now AAR's CEO is begging. See the link below.
>
htt> p://www.radio-info.com/mods/board?Post=545947&Board=newstalk
>
Sounds like they're taking a page out of the Bill O'Reilly songbook.
 
Re: AAR Asking For Donations

Air America has few listeners. Agencies don't buy time on stations with no audience. The well-heeled Democrats who buy the time and pay the salaries are tired of funding a sinking ship.
 
Re: AAR Asking For Donations

Unfortunately for the Democrats, your statement is on point ON ALL OBSERVATIONS. Even though Franken said he had no money in it.

> Air America has few listeners. Agencies don't buy time on
> stations with no audience. The well-heeled Democrats who buy
> the time and pay the salaries are tired of funding a sinking
> ship.
>
 
I beg to differ

> I'm curious; do you call what Jerry Lewis does begging?
> What about the benefit concerts for the victims of Hurricane
> Katrina? Do you call that begging too?

Jerry Lewis: Absolutely. Begging of the most shameless and tasteless kind. I did not see the hurricane benefits. Also NPR/PBS pledge drives qualify as begathons in my book.

BEG v. 1. to ask for as a charity; 2a. to ask earnestly for (ENTREAT)
b. to require as necessary or appropriate.

>
> Your thread title is a lie. 1190 WLIB has nothing to do
> with this. That was just your way of getting this post on
> the NY board.
>

WLIB is Air America Radio. AAR controls it. There is no separate local operation (as say with CBS Radio and Newsradio 88). And if this "campaign" does indicate a cash flow problem, what happens to AAR's LMA with ICBC? We know what happened during the last cash crunch. It is a legitimate local New York radio question. So is: If the rent is overdue and ICBC evicts AAR, then what? Caribbean again? (They were doing better with that format.)
WLIB becomes an independent progressive talk station taking some AAR programming? Given that AAR appears to do better as a syndicator than a "network" with LMA's, maybe AAR might do better if WLIB (the only remaining LMA) were an independent affiliate (even if AAR does not get clearance for all shows in New York).

Also note Inner City Broadcasting has dropped progressive talk/AAR from its Charleston station and has cut AAR's time on its Philly station (mixed AAR, urban talk, religion, gospel).
 
Re: I beg to differ

> Jerry Lewis: Absolutely. Begging of the most shameless and
> tasteless kind. I did not see the hurricane benefits. Also
> NPR/PBS pledge drives qualify as begathons in my book.
>

With that opinion than you must consider everything begging. Anyone who solicits money is a beggar. Companies who solicit your money through advertising goods is also begging. When you go look for a job, you are begging. When you ask for help for something, you are begging. When you pray to G-d, you are begging. Everything you ask someone for something that's begging too. You have probably begged for things many times in your life. How shameless and tasteless does that make you?


> WLIB is Air America Radio. AAR controls it. There is no
> separate local operation (as say with CBS Radio and
> Newsradio 88). And if this "campaign" does indicate a cash
> flow problem, what happens to AAR's LMA with ICBC? We know
> what happened during the last cash crunch. It is a
> legitimate local New York radio question. So is: If the
> rent is overdue and ICBC evicts AAR, then what? Caribbean
> again? (They were doing better with that format.)
> WLIB becomes an independent progressive talk station taking
> some AAR programming? Given that AAR appears to do better
> as a syndicator than a "network" with LMA's, maybe AAR might
> do better if WLIB (the only remaining LMA) were an
> independent affiliate (even if AAR does not get clearance
> for all shows in New York).
>
> Also note Inner City Broadcasting has dropped progressive
> talk/AAR from its Charleston station and has cut AAR's time
> on its Philly station (mixed AAR, urban talk, religion,
> gospel).
>

AAR and WLIB are to separate entities. AAR does not control WLIB. They have a contract with them. That's all. WLIB is not asking for donations. They have no involvement with it. Your title is a lie.
 
Re: I beg to differ

> > Jerry Lewis: Absolutely. Begging of the most shameless
> and
> > tasteless kind. I did not see the hurricane benefits.
> Also
> > NPR/PBS pledge drives qualify as begathons in my book.
> >
>
> With that opinion than you must consider everything begging.
> Anyone who solicits money is a beggar. Companies who
> solicit your money through advertising goods is also
> begging. When you go look for a job, you are begging. When
> you ask for help for something, you are begging. When you
> pray to G-d, you are begging. Everything you ask someone
> for something that's begging too. You have probably begged
> for things many times in your life. How shameless and
> tasteless does that make you?
>
>
> > WLIB is Air America Radio. AAR controls it. There is no
> > separate local operation (as say with CBS Radio and
> > Newsradio 88). And if this "campaign" does indicate a
> cash
> > flow problem, what happens to AAR's LMA with ICBC? We
> know
> > what happened during the last cash crunch. It is a
> > legitimate local New York radio question. So is: If the
> > rent is overdue and ICBC evicts AAR, then what? Caribbean
>
> > again? (They were doing better with that format.)
> > WLIB becomes an independent progressive talk station
> taking
> > some AAR programming? Given that AAR appears to do better
>
> > as a syndicator than a "network" with LMA's, maybe AAR
> might
> > do better if WLIB (the only remaining LMA) were an
> > independent affiliate (even if AAR does not get clearance
> > for all shows in New York).
> >
> > Also note Inner City Broadcasting has dropped progressive
> > talk/AAR from its Charleston station and has cut AAR's
> time
> > on its Philly station (mixed AAR, urban talk, religion,
> > gospel).
> >
>
> AAR and WLIB are to separate entities. AAR does not control
> WLIB. They have a contract with them. That's all. WLIB is
> not asking for donations. They have no involvement with it.
> Your title is a lie.
>


GAWD I am so tired of things people disagree with being called called LIES. It gets OLD.

He did put AAR/WLIB on the title. WLIB plays AAR does it not? Must we pick nits like this? Sheeeesh
 
Re: I beg to differ

>
> GAWD I am so tired of things people disagree with being
> called called LIES. It gets OLD.
>
> He did put AAR/WLIB on the title. WLIB plays AAR does it
> not? Must we pick nits like this? Sheeeesh
>


WLIB has nothing to do with any fundrasing that AAR is doing. What you call nitpicking I call keeping the facts straight. But maybe accuracy doesn't mean anything anymore?
 
Re: I beg to differ

Inner City's WHAT 1340 AM in Philly did not carry Air America Radio 24/7. They didn't even carry it the majority of the day like WLIB does. So I don't know what they could've cut.
 
Re: I beg to differ

> Inner City's WHAT 1340 AM in Philly did not carry Air
> America Radio 24/7. They didn't even carry it the majority
> of the day like WLIB does. So I don't know what they
> could've cut.
>
Reportedly, they have part of cut Randi Rhodes' time to take Travis Smiley.
 
Re: I beg to differ

> > > Jerry Lewis: Absolutely. Begging of the most shameless
> > and
> > > tasteless kind. I did not see the hurricane benefits.
> > Also
> > > NPR/PBS pledge drives qualify as begathons in my book.
> > >
> >
> > With that opinion than you must consider everything
> begging.
> > Anyone who solicits money is a beggar. Companies who
> > solicit your money through advertising goods is also
> > begging. When you go look for a job, you are begging.
> When
> > you ask for help for something, you are begging. When you
>
> > pray to G-d, you are begging. Everything you ask someone
> > for something that's begging too. You have probably
> begged
> > for things many times in your life. How shameless and
> > tasteless does that make you?
> >
> >
> > > WLIB is Air America Radio. AAR controls it. There is
> no
> > > separate local operation (as say with CBS Radio and
> > > Newsradio 88). And if this "campaign" does indicate a
> > cash
> > > flow problem, what happens to AAR's LMA with ICBC? We
> > know
> > > what happened during the last cash crunch. It is a
> > > legitimate local New York radio question. So is: If the
>
> > > rent is overdue and ICBC evicts AAR, then what?
> Caribbean
> >
> > > again? (They were doing better with that format.)
> > > WLIB becomes an independent progressive talk station
> > taking
> > > some AAR programming? Given that AAR appears to do
> better
> >
> > > as a syndicator than a "network" with LMA's, maybe AAR
> > might
> > > do better if WLIB (the only remaining LMA) were an
> > > independent affiliate (even if AAR does not get
> clearance
> > > for all shows in New York).
> > >
> > > Also note Inner City Broadcasting has dropped
> progressive
> > > talk/AAR from its Charleston station and has cut AAR's
> > time
> > > on its Philly station (mixed AAR, urban talk, religion,
> > > gospel).
> > >
> >
> > AAR and WLIB are to separate entities. AAR does not
> control
> > WLIB. They have a contract with them. That's all. WLIB
> is
> > not asking for donations. They have no involvement with
> it.
> > Your title is a lie.
> >
>
>
> GAWD I am so tired of things people disagree with being
> called called LIES. It gets OLD.
>
> He did put AAR/WLIB on the title. WLIB plays AAR does it
> not? Must we pick nits like this? Sheeeesh
>
Apparently, so.
This is why I never bothered with the debate union at my high school.<P ID="signature">______________

Canada TV and College Radio</P>
 
Re: AAR Asking For Donations

> One of the key problems Air America has had from its outset is its stuck on (usually) the weakest signals in the markets that carry it..Portland seems to be the one market where it does well from a ratings standpoint..and if you can't here the programming to begin with, advertisers have no reason to buy time..

Does Air America have any FM affliates? Would that help it to some degree?

If you look at the Air America Website, its doing nothing different from what NPR stations do every Spring and Fall..and NPR in most cases recieve some funding from state general funds or cash from various universities where it has FM singals..

>
 
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