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AAR is doing that which few dare to do...

T

tbetz

... they are trusting talent who knows he's on the way out to door to remain on the air; maybe for another five or six weeks!

Marc Maron reported today that despite his hopes, his contract expires Dec. 1, and that there are three likely possibilities: 1) That he leaves Morning Sedition after the Nov 31 show, 2) he sticks around for a couple of weeks in December to aid in the transition to his replacement, or 3) he says something really stupid in the meantime and gets yanked off the air unceremoniously.

As has been stated here many times, AAR isn't being run by radio people.

Can anyone think of a case where this sort of scenario didn't end up with possibility 3 occuring? Okay, maybe Howard Stern will remain on Infinity right up to the end of his contract (it remains to be seen), but I can't think of another case where management didn't act presumptively and pull the talent off-air as soon as they determined to can him.<P ID="signature">______________
also known as tombetz.</P>
 
Not that unusual

It all depends. I can think of examples both ways. It's hard to predict. At one point, it was almost automatic that if an on-air person was fired, quit or gave notice for a better job, he disappeared immediately. Now, it is not so automatic. Recently, in my market, a station changed formats and the air talent (and everybody else) knew the change was coming a month in advance. A few months earlier, another station flipped and the word was out a few days before hand. But another station flipped a few years ago during a staff meeting when everybody got the word and was escorted from the building.

Mark Maron's comments indicate it was AAR's decision not to renew his contract.

There is no indication (so far) Mark Reilly or Wayne Gellman will be leaving as well. It will be interesting to see if Mark Maron decides to file a racial discrimination complaint or lawsuit. Maron is White. Reilly and Gellman are Black. Maron mostly carried the show. Reilly adds little. Gellman detracts much.

Yes, AAR is not run by radio people or even good business people. No word so far of what will happen with the time slot. No build up for the new person or people (as Infinity has started promoting Howard's successors). Nothing to get attention for who or what is coming in December. Maybe AAR has no idea who or what is coming. Maybe Maron stays on the air because AAR has no replacement in place. Maybe they can't afford to keep paying him while they pay somebody else to do the show.

Meanwhile, the radio people who run progressive talk stations around the country may be taking a hard look at Bill Press. I'd rather see stations go local in morning drive, but IMHO if the choice is Press or Morning Sedition, Press is by far the superior product. What is not so certain is whether Jones syndication sales is now pushinging Press' show (or holding back in deference to AAR).

I've also heard Thom Hartmann's local Portland morning show and he and Hedi Tauber are very good in morning drive. In some ways the local show is better than Hartmann's syndicated show: He has a light touch. Does good interviews. And has a nice interaction with his cohost. AAR has Hartmann in the bullpen and this might be a good opportunity to get him in the game.

Now, let's see if AAR has the brains and the cajones to really revamp and rebuild morning drive, which so far has been the weakest link (at least since they canceled Unfiltered). Now if they can just get rid of Franken (maybe there is some other state besides Minnesota to which he can move and run for something).
 
Re: Not that unusual

Maron is White. Reilly and Gellman are Black.
> Maron mostly carried the show. Reilly adds little. Gellman
> detracts much.

Reilly and Gillman both cam from InnerCity station WLIB and both have long associations with Percy Sutton. Wayne Gillman is also a WBLS (the local FM) newsman.
>
Now if they can just get rid of Franken (maybe
> there is some other state besides Minnesota to which he can
> move and run for something).

Why? I happen to think Franken does the best show on Air America. To each his/her own. Franken is doing fairly well against his competition given the mostly poor signals and weak lead-ins he has.
 
Re: Not that unusual

> It all depends. I can think of examples both ways. It's
> hard to predict. At one point, it was almost automatic that
> if an on-air person was fired, quit or gave notice for a
> better job, he disappeared immediately. Now, it is not so
> automatic.

I'm very happy to be corrected. My sense (especially after I saw how Infinity flipped WCBS-FM) was that this sort of mistreatment was still common practice.<P ID="signature">______________
also known as tombetz.</P>
 
Re: Not that unusual

>
> I'm very happy to be corrected. My sense (especially after
> I saw how Infinity flipped WCBS-FM) was that this sort of
> mistreatment was still common practice.
>

It still not completely UNcommon, as you point out. Infinity missed an opportunity to give the oldies format a big send-off. People still would have complained and protested. But CBS-FM could have given themselves a few weeks of charging premium ad rates, like they are with Howard.

Reminds me: In the late 70's, WLS and WCFL were the two (head to head) big top 40 stations in Chicago. WCFL gave up the race and announced they were changing formats in advance. WLS bought a saturation ad schedule on WCFL reminding everybody where they could hear top 40 music after the flip.

Another class example of how to handle a change is Musicradio77's flip to Talkradio77. I still have have an aircheck of the final 40 or so minutes of the old WABC with Ron Lundy and Big Dan Ingram.
 
Re: Not that unusual

WSAI got a really nice send-off for its oldies format before the libtalk flip, including the very last morning drive show before Jerry Springer's first show at 9am.
 
It's about time AAR started shaking up the line-up. I haven't listened to Maron in while, but I never really liked him that much. He's a comedian and sometimes seems likes he's going for laughs instead of making points. The only changes AAR has made up to this point has been canning Liz Winstead (who was awful) and reassigning Chuck Dee. They were basically forced by Clear Channel to add to Jerry Springer. I like to see more shake-ups in line-up (e.g. Franken and Malloy) There's lots of talent in the wings. (e.g. Press, Hartmann, Miller, and Ward)

> ... they are trusting talent who knows he's on the way out
> to door to remain on the air; maybe for another five or six
> weeks!
>
> Marc Maron reported today that despite his hopes, his
> contract expires Dec. 1, and that there are three likely
> possibilities: 1) That he leaves Morning Sedition after the
> Nov 31 show, 2) he sticks around for a couple of weeks in
> December to aid in the transition to his replacement, or 3)
> he says something really stupid in the meantime and gets
> yanked off the air unceremoniously.
>
> As has been stated here many times, AAR isn't being run by
> radio people.
>
> Can anyone think of a case where this sort of scenario
> didn't end up with possibility 3 occuring? Okay, maybe
> Howard Stern will remain on Infinity right up to the end of
> his contract (it remains to be seen), but I can't think of
> another case where management didn't act presumptively and
> pull the talent off-air as soon as they determined to can
> him.
>
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To boldly go where no one has gone before

What are you smoking? "Forced by Clear Channel to add Jerry Springer?" Clear Channel let him get away. Jerry was already signing up stations on his own. If he had not signed over syndication rights to AAR, they would be dead in space.

And there is no reason for that "talent in the wings" to sign with AAR. Why you want those idiots to have a monopoly on progressive talk radio programming is beyond me. Also beyond me is why you all seem to think every progressive talk station must just march in lockstep with the same programs, at the same time, from the same distributor - and, god forbid, no local content.

Political types really don't get radio: Bernie Ward is on the number one station (by a WIDE margin) in the number five market. KGO is a class act with a nuclear signal that also pulls VERY strong numbers in several nearby markets. Bernie Ward reaches more people on KGO than Franken does in his dreams. KGO is not "the wings."

The sooner AAR rolls over and dies, and the sooner the real players in radio syndication take over and start producing good radio for progressive talk stations, the better for the future of the format.

Prediction: AAR will have nobody in place when Maron's contract expires. They will sputter along with "best of's" in December and then fill-in's and on-air auditions until sometime in the spring. Then they will hire someone with a unique combination of no talent and good connections.



> It's about time AAR started shaking up the line-up. I
> haven't listened to Maron in while, but I never really liked
> him that much. He's a comedian and sometimes seems likes
> he's going for laughs instead of making points. The only
> changes AAR has made up to this point has been canning Liz
> Winstead (who was awful) and reassigning Chuck Dee. They
> were basically forced by Clear Channel to add to Jerry
> Springer. I like to see more shake-ups in line-up (e.g.
> Franken and Malloy) There's lots of talent in the wings.
> (e.g. Press, Hartmann, Miller, and Ward)
>
 
The AAR "Dream Team"

> Political types really don't get radio: Bernie Ward is on
> the number one station (by a WIDE margin) in the number five
> market. KGO is a class act with a nuclear signal that also
> pulls VERY strong numbers in several nearby markets. Bernie
> Ward reaches more people on KGO than Franken does in his
> dreams. KGO is not "the wings."

Amen, brother. I just love it when people start ticking off the names of established local hosts and put them on their AAR Dream Team.

Bernie Ward has a pretty sizeable ego, but he's not about to abandon KGO for AAR. He's not stupid. He's been national before (weekends via ABC), and he knows that game. And there's no way on this earth ABC would let him do anything like that with AAR or any other syndicator without their approval.

It just is not happening. For that matter, KGO overnighter Ray Taliaferro, also mentioned on these lists, is not going this route as well. Same reasons. It is just Radio 101, really.

> The sooner AAR rolls over and dies, and the sooner the real
> players in radio syndication take over and start producing
> good radio for progressive talk stations, the better for the
> future of the format.

I don't know if AAR is going to "roll over and die", at least right now. Franken isn't going anywhere, unless he runs for the Senate, and that date is still a ways off. (2008? That means he'd have to abandon his radio post in 2007 or something.) Randi Rhodes isn't going away. Springer's there with the CC deal.

Anything outside that axis? Questionable. Maybe Malloy hangs in, because he's used to low-rent syndication networks (i.e. America), and even a hobbled AAR is a better deal for him than that...for one, it gets him 2 of his 3 hours in New York City, which he's never had before, and the full show in his home market of Atlanta.

Janeane Garofolo, now on "The West Wing", will likely bolt at some point to return to TV/movies. Sam Seder is actually not bad for a non-radio trained host, but if she goes, there goes "Majority Report", which already is not carried on many of the CC AAR affiliates (including my local one).

And as for Morning Problem...er...Sedition...

> Prediction: AAR will have nobody in place when Maron's
> contract expires. They will sputter along with "best of's"
> in December and then fill-in's and on-air auditions until
> sometime in the spring. Then they will hire someone with a
> unique combination of no talent and good connections.

I'd find it hard to dispute that prediction.

I've always said that they should decouple Morning Sedition or whatever they do in morning drive from the network, and produce a local morning show for WLIB alone. Maybe some of the affiliates in the region (New Haven, etc.) could carry it, but program the show for NYC. AAR has already put some investment into a local staff for 1190 - including a new GM and GSM - so it's not unthinkable.

-OA<P ID="signature">______________
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Re: Not that unusual

> Yes, AAR is not run by radio people or even good business
> people.

That's a stretch.

> Meanwhile, the radio people who run progressive talk
> stations around the country may be taking a hard look at
> Bill Press. I'd rather see stations go local in morning
> drive, but IMHO if the choice is Press or Morning Sedition,
> Press is by far the superior product. What is not so
> certain is whether Jones syndication sales is now pushinging
> Press' show (or holding back in deference to AAR).

I agree - Press has an excellent show.

> Now, let's see if AAR has the brains and the cajones to
> really revamp and rebuild morning drive, which so far has
> been the weakest link (at least since they canceled
> Unfiltered). Now if they can just get rid of Franken (maybe
> there is some other state besides Minnesota to which he can
> move and run for something).

OK - but *WHY* exactly do you want to see Franken leave? What is your point here? Franken has appreciable ratings for a national liberal show.
 
Re: The AAR "Dream Team"

Well, I keep hearing Franken isn't going anywhere until...
But his co-host has left and after a year and half, he still doesn't seem able to do something as basic as follow the clock.
He comes alive on remotes with an audience, but he seems to hate sitting in a studio and talking into his own headphones.
His resume suggests a limited attention span: Comedy writing. Franken & Davis. SNL. Politio-comedy book writing. Radio. ....
I don't know if he was ever serious about the Senate. I think he'd be terrible at everything associated with job except the Sunday Morning talk shows and coming into an almost empty chamber late in the day to stand-up routines for C-SPAN2.
My sense is he's thinking about life after radio.
Why else hire another host - already in the same time slot - to "wait in the wings.?" Why else would another host - already in the same time slot - sign with AAR, unless part of the deal was Franken's slot?

I say again, Jones Radio seems not to be trying too hard to get clearances for their own hosts (which means taking clearances away from AAR, which is also one of their ad rep clients). CC also seems to treat AAR gently, letting AAR syndicate Springer rather than Premiere. Last winter, Unfiltered was terminal and stations were defecting to Stephanie or Jerry. Another deal that makes no sense (except it saves AAR's bacon).

WLIB has almost no local content. Even the traffic reports come from Philly. God only knows where the news comes from. I doubt they will try anything much different. AAR still seems addicted to the idea that they are a "network" with a wall to wall program schedule - and stations exist only as repeaters for the network feed. And doing a competitive morning show in the New York market is not easy (how many different attempts did WABC make after Harry Harrison and before Curtis and Kuby, including Curtis and Lisa, and - gasp - Alan Colmes)?
 
AAR, Jones, and WLIB

> My sense is he's thinking about life after radio.
> Why else hire another host - already in the same time slot -
> to "wait in the wings.?" Why else would another host -
> already in the same time slot - sign with AAR, unless part
> of the deal was Franken's slot?

I don't doubt you, but I think he's gonna hang in there until he makes his decision about running for the Senate. He's already stated he's moving the show to Minnesota, and that'll probably buy him some time, as it'll be a new situation and he'll be at home.

If he doesn't run for the Senate, he may well decide to move on from the show as well. But I don't think that happens this year. You're right, though, it's hard to see the Hartmann deal in any other light. For one, there's a fairly limited market for liberal talk anyway, and nearly all of those stations are already carrying Franken.

> I say again, Jones Radio seems not to be trying too hard to
> get clearances for their own hosts (which means taking
> clearances away from AAR, which is also one of their ad rep
> clients).

Except that Jones has been very aggressive with Ed Schultz's show. It seems to be mostly Stephanie Miller getting the short end of that stick, as they aren't pushing her nearly as hard as "Big Eddie". Jones apparently has no problem selling him hard vs. AAR's Randi Rhodes.

> WLIB has almost no local content. Even the traffic reports
> come from Philly. God only knows where the news comes from.

The one time I've been within the WLIB signal recently, in afternoon drive, I heard AAR's news anchor doing a local newscast for NYC at the bottom of the hour. Why would the traffic reports come from Philly? NYC has a fully functioning Metro/Shadow operation, no?

> I doubt they will try anything much different. AAR still
> seems addicted to the idea that they are a "network" with a
> wall to wall program schedule - and stations exist only as
> repeaters for the network feed.

I understand that, but as I mentioned, they've hired a local management staff at WLIB, including a new GM and GSM. Why hire those folks if all you're going to do is repeat the national schedule?

It makes SENSE to do something NYC-centric in AM drive, if the station's going to "go to the next level". I agree it's difficult to gain foothold, but they have to try.

-OA<P ID="signature">______________
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WLIB and local content

Yes, Metro has a very full functioning NYC operation with over 30 radio clients in the tri-state area. I just read they also have an operation on Long Island, as well. WLIB/AAR gets their traffic reports from an outfit in Philly called "Traffic.com." From what I've been able to figure out, they are computer hardware and software company specializing in traffic data. They provide sensors and software to some state departments of transportation. According to their website, their major emphasis is on providing "on demand" or "custom" traffic reports via cell phones, pagers, GPS systems and their own website. They also provide animated traffic maps and graphics to TV stations. Radio appears to be something of an after-thought. They have only one radio client in New York, WLIB and one in Philly (last I heard).

From what I can piece together from various websites and postings here, mostly out of work Philly DJ's pre-record and feed traffic reports to WLIB. I flip back and forth between the WLIB reports and the reports on the Infinity all news stations from Metro: WLIB rattles off a lot of statistics and numbers. They often don't describe what's happening (which makes sense if they are out of town and can't look at the traffic cam monitors like the Metro reporters). They seem to miss some incidents (especially in Westchester County). Some of the WLIB reports are very brief (even in drive times). They sometimes mispronounce street and highway names. And I've heard them repeat reports (possibly an automation problem).

I suspect what we have here is another legacy of Evan Cohen and his network/repeater model, in which AAR stations would be leased and automated. Maybe the idea was to upload traffic reports for each city out of one location (like XM Radio does, and they are also a Traffic.com client). Now, with progressive talk stations operating as independent affiliates, they make their own arrangements for traffic reports (of course, Clear Channel has its own traffic service in most markets and they account for the biggest share of progressive talk stations).

I have read that outside of weekdays, AAR's newscasts are also out-sourced. AAR has started running quick local headlines on the half-hour during weekday morning and afternoon drive. Otherwise, AAR carries the newscasts fed to the network (although, from what I hear, almost all affiliates skip AAR's newscasts - so they might as well make them all local).

The only long-form local programming on WLIB is one hour (each) on Sunday morning with former Mayor Dinkens and the Rev Al Sharpton. Both are legacies from Inner City Broadcasting, the station owner. Sharpton has signed a syndication deal with Radio One, so his WLIB show may be discontinued.

I hope doing local sales leads to doing local programming, but I don't know how likely that is. I guess it partly depends on what kind of shape the company's finances are in right now.

WLIB did have a local audio stream at one point (very poor quality and unreliable at best) but it seems to have disappeared.


>
> The one time I've been within the WLIB signal recently, in
> afternoon drive, I heard AAR's news anchor doing a local
> newscast for NYC at the bottom of the hour. Why would the
> traffic reports come from Philly? NYC has a fully
> functioning Metro/Shadow operation, no?
>
> I understand that, but as I mentioned, they've hired a local
> management staff at WLIB, including a new GM and GSM. Why
> hire those folks if all you're going to do is repeat the
> national schedule?
>
> It makes SENSE to do something NYC-centric in AM drive, if
> the station's going to "go to the next level". I agree it's
> difficult to gain foothold, but they have to try.
>
> -OA
>
 
Re: WLIB and local content

WLIB is all local on the overnights. Gary Byrd still has a show. I will say this politics aside i can't stand Rush Limbaugh and don't see what people find entertaining about him. I do like Franken. he brings content to the discussion and backs up his points. If he makes mistakes he owns up to it. Unlike the guy with half his brain tied etc etc. I mean with all the troubles this administration is having and with the Republicans controling both houses and racking up record deficites, does it make sense to keep blaming Clinton?
 
Re: WLIB and local content

> WLIB/AAR gets their traffic reports from an outfit in Philly
> called "Traffic.com." From what I've been able to figure
> out, they are computer hardware and software company
> specializing in traffic data.

In the Houston market, Traffic Pulse (traffic.com) provides traffic reports to KPRC-TV and the Cox Radio cluster and traffic and news for KXYZ/Houston and KMNY/Dallas. They're no better or worse than Metro or CC's Total Traffic because they're all looking at the same speed sensors and traffic cameras from TxDOT.

Metro/Shadow has a bit of an advantage in New York because it has aircraft up in drive times. In other markets it's a more level playing field between the three traffic services.

I don't know who's doing AAR's weekend newscasts, but they're terrible.<P ID="signature">______________
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Re: To boldly go where no one has gone before

> What are you smoking? "Forced by Clear Channel to add Jerry
> Springer?" Clear Channel let him get away. Jerry was
> already signing up stations on his own. If he had not
> signed over syndication rights to AAR, they would be dead in
> space.

What stations had Jerry Springer signed up until he got the deal with AAR. His only stations were WCKY in Cincinnati and WTAM in Cleveland. Springer is buddies with top top CC execs. They basically told AAR to pick up Springer. They didn't "let him get away."

> And there is no reason for that "talent in the wings" to
> sign with AAR. Why you want those idiots to have a monopoly
> on progressive talk radio programming is beyond me. Also
> beyond me is why you all seem to think every progressive
> talk station must just march in lockstep with the same
> programs, at the same time, from the same distributor - and,
> god forbid, no local content.

Look AAR is tied at the hip with CC. For whatever, reason CC seems to like having AAR as syndication partner. There are 26 CC stations carrying AAR programming. More significantly, excluding WLIB in New York, 70% of AAR listeners are AAR on listening on a CC station.

> Political types really don't get radio: Bernie Ward is on
> the number one station (by a WIDE margin) in the number five
> market. KGO is a class act with a nuclear signal that also
> pulls VERY strong numbers in several nearby markets. Bernie
> Ward reaches more people on KGO than Franken does in his
> dreams. KGO is not "the wings."

What are you smoking. Bernie is great host. I understand he's getting a double digit share on KGO, that's at least 3 points better than KGO's average share. The only problem is from 10 pm - 1 am a 10 share equals about 0.5 rating. That means he reaching about 75,000 homes. Even with his mediocre 1.5 share, Franken, who has a great time period, reaches just over 1 million listeners per week.

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Re: WLIB and local content

> WLIB is all local on the overnights. Gary Byrd still has a
> show.

And...I can't remember the guy's name, but he has a "Dr." in front of his name and the show's called "Thinking It Through". Is he still doing that show in overnights?

The WLIB overnight programming, and the weekend programming mentioned above, is Inner City's contribution to the frequency. AAR doesn't produce any of it. And mwebster's right, I'd assume Rev. Al goes away after he starts up with the new Radio One venture.

I thought I'd heard that AAR was aiming to produce some local-to-WLIB weekend shows at some point. Maybe they'll do so in slots like that.

I wasn't aware that they were using Traffic Pulse/traffic.com, or that the operation was based in Philly. I'm surprised they don't at least have a body or two on the ground in NYC, but if WLIB is indeed their only client...

As far as traffic cam feeds, they CAN be transmitted over the Internet, ya know. :D But the other stuff is still there, mispronunciation, no planes, etc...

-OA<P ID="signature">______________
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> ... they are trusting talent who knows he's on the way out
> to door to remain on the air; maybe for another five or six
> weeks!
>
> Marc Maron reported today that despite his hopes, his
> contract expires Dec. 1, and that there are three likely
> possibilities: 1) That he leaves Morning Sedition after the
> Nov 31 show, 2) he sticks around for a couple of weeks in
> December to aid in the transition to his replacement, or 3)
> he says something really stupid in the meantime and gets
> yanked off the air unceremoniously.
>
> As has been stated here many times, AAR isn't being run by
> radio people.
>
> Can anyone think of a case where this sort of scenario
> didn't end up with possibility 3 occuring? Okay, maybe
> Howard Stern will remain on Infinity right up to the end of
> his contract (it remains to be seen), but I can't think of
> another case where management didn't act presumptively and
> pull the talent off-air as soon as they determined to can
> him.
>

That's what so great about progressive talk--that a good percentage of the talkers are not necessarily radio-savvy. Which makes them more genuine.

I don't think stand-up comics like Maron or Stephanie Miller, an attorney like Lionel, a comedy writer like Al Franken, or a longtime sports broadcaster like Ed Schultz ever envisioned they would be doing progressive talk 20 years ago.

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> That's what so great about progressive talk--that a good
> percentage of the talkers are not necessarily radio-savvy.
> Which makes them more genuine.

Oh, I'm not so sure. And I'm not so sure you're aware of some background, either...such as...

> I don't think stand-up comics like Maron or Stephanie
> Miller, an attorney like Lionel, a comedy writer like Al
> Franken, or a longtime sports broadcaster like Ed Schultz
> ever envisioned they would be doing progressive talk 20
> years ago.

Of the above list, Stephanie Miller, Lionel and Ed Schultz have extensive talk radio experience. Steph's been on Los Angeles talk radio on and off for the better part of the past decade, working at such big stations as KFI/640.

Lionel started his radio career after being spotted as a *caller* to talk WFLA/970 Tampa. He was given a show, and that was many years ago. Since then, Lionel has been heard on stations like WABC/770 New York City, arguably one of the most important talk radio stations in America.

"Big Eddie" had been doing an issues-oriented show on Clear Channel talk WFGO in Fargo, ND for years. His political bent, as well documented, eventually changed from right-leaning to left-leaning.

Now, there was really not any such thing as "progressive talk" 20 years ago, at least as we know it today. But all three have been doing talk radio for some time now.

And besides, folks that don't at least pick up the mechanics of how to do a radio show - at some point - are generally painful to listen to on the radio. Scores of folks have entered talk radio from other walks of life, but they usually get some seasoning and training before ending up on a national stage.

-OA<P ID="signature">______________
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Re: WLIB and local content

> WLIB/AAR gets their traffic reports from an outfit in Philly
> called "Traffic.com."

I didn't realize that 333 Meadowlands Parkway, Secaucus was now in "Philly." That's where the traffic.com reports for WLIB originate - right there by the old Z100 studios, with the WLIB towers right across the train tracks out back.<P ID="signature">______________
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