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AAR TRAFFIC PROVIDER ALSO LOOKING FOR CASH

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Air America Radio are not the only ones seeking cash. AAR's revenue short-falls have reportedly sent them to their backers at least twice. Now the company that AAR hired to provide traffic for their one operated station is going to the bank.

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Traffic.com Arranges $12M Loan Deal
An SEC 8-K filing by TRAFFIC.COM says that the traffic service has entered a $12 million loan agreement with SQUARE 1 BANK. The agreement is for two years ending AUGUST 27, 2008 and can be terminated by TRAFFIC.COM on 30 days' notice; the rate is prime plus 0.5%, and the bank is taking warrants for over 26,000 shares of the company at $4.60/share exercisable through 2013.

Traffic.com is a self-described "technology company" whose main business is providing highway sensors to government transportation departments. They also create graphics software and computer-generated maps for TV traffic reports. In addition, they provide traffic reports and data to some radio broadcasters, including Air America Radio, but trail far behind Metro Network's Shadow Traffic and Clear Channel's Total Traffic. The company has resorted to various cost-cutting measures including centralizing some of its traffic reporting functions for different cities in suburban Philadelphia.
 
What exactly does this have to do with AAR specifically?

Nothing. It's just an excuse for Flintstone to launch yet another thread.
 
fred flintstone said:
Air America Radio are not the only ones seeking cash. AAR's revenue short-falls have reportedly sent them to their backers at least twice. Now the company that AAR hired to provide traffic for their one operated station is going to the bank.

Wow... this was your lamest post so far this year. Gumby could not have made a stretch like this. And I thought your childish AAR bashing days were behind you.

Shame.
 
Dear Phil,

Sorry you're disappointed. This time I'm bashing the traffic service. Since Newstalk 950, WROC, does not use it, I can see that this might seem a less pressing issue to you. And for all I know, you may not commute by car so traffic reports are a moot point for you. Many others, however, find them THE most important feature on early morning (and late afternon) radio.

Also less pressing to you would be the issues of: Dumping Jerry for Sam Seder (WROC carries Steph), moving Rachel to early evening (WROC carries Randi delayed in early evening after Big Ed), and the firing of Mike Malloy and (reportedly) replacing him with Laura Flanders in late night (WROC carries Lionel).

The selection of this traffic provider also says something about AAR's concern for the quality of their on-air product, their willingness to compromise quality for money and their regard for those in the audience who depend on traffic reports. In particular, morning drive is prime time in radio. Good traffic reports are ESSENTIAL to many listeners. The New York market has two excellent all news stations, a news-talk public radio station, other talk stations plus all the music stations which get traffic reports from Shadow Traffic; all it takes is one bad traffic report - or break lights ahead - to cost AAR (or any station) listeners when traffic reports lack quality or credibility.

PS: Ah, more mischief from Radio Reactionary. He doesn't start threads; he just picks at threads.
In Pittsburgh, KDKA uses Shadow and WPGB uses Clear Channel's Total Traffic. So you don't need to worry, unless you go to KQV which, last time I checked, used PennDOT (and I know you don't approve of socialism).
 
fred flintstone said:
Sorry you're disappointed. This time I'm bashing the traffic service. Since Newstalk 950, WROC, does not use it, I can see that this might seem a less pressing issue to you. And for all I know, you may not commute by car so traffic reports are a moot point for you. Many others, however, find them THE most important feature on early morning (and late afternon) radio.

What does this have to do with Air America Radio? This would be like saying, "Head On" has dropped their spots on Air America because of lack of cash and saying "AAR SPONSOR RUNNING OUT OF MONEY." AAR has little/nothing to do with the subject at hand.

The selection of this traffic provider also says something about AAR's concern for the quality of their on-air product, their willingness to compromise quality for money and their regard for those in the audience who depend on traffic reports. In particular, morning drive is prime time in radio. Good traffic reports are ESSENTIAL to many listeners. The New York market has two excellent all news stations, a news-talk public radio station, other talk stations plus all the music stations which get traffic reports from Shadow Traffic; all it takes is one bad traffic report - or break lights ahead - to cost AAR (or any station) listeners when traffic reports lack quality or credibility.

Traffic reports are the responsibility of the local affiliate. AAR does not own any station they are on. If you have a problem with a station's traffic reports, take it up with the station, not AAR!

This was a cheap slam at AAR for no reason.
 
Many others, however, find them THE most important feature on early morning (and late afternon) radio.

Yes, and no. Yes, getting traffic information is important, but no, it's not so important that most listeners will listen to a radio program that they otherwise don't like just because the traffic coverage is better. It's like weather forecasts. As long as a station has weather forecasts, listeners don't much care who has generated them. Hell, it's almost like time checks in AM drive time. No one cares if a morning man is using a Timex or a Rolex to determine the time, so long as he says the time every now and then.

Besides, traffic reports are the responsibilities of local stations that carry AAR, not AAR itself. So why include AAR in the title of this thread when AAR has nothing to do with traffic reports?
 
Phillip Dampier said:
Traffic reports are the responsibility of the local affiliate. AAR does not own any station they are on.

To be fair, it is my understanding that AAR contracted with Trafffic.com to provide traffic and weather for its leased-time portion of the WLIB broadcast day, and continues to do so for its portion of the WWRL broadcast day... but it sounds to me like a pure barter deal.
 
Phillip Dampier said:
Traffic reports are the responsibility of the local affiliate. AAR does not own any station they are on. If you have a problem with a station's traffic reports, take it up with the station, not AAR!

They don't own any; they operate (lease) one: WWRL. AAR brought over its traffic provider from WLIB, including during the local morning. WWRL had been using Metro's Shadow Traffic.
 
They don't own any; they operate (lease) one: WWRL. AAR brought over its traffic provider from WLIB, including during the local morning. WWRL had been using Metro's Shadow Traffic.

And what brand of clocks do they use for on-air time checks? That's just as important as where they get traffic reports.
 
Radio_Realist said:
And what brand of clocks do they use for on-air time checks? That's just as important as where they get traffic reports.

They are not big on time checks. But the automation often seems screwed up. Bad clocks could account for some of that. Also mistakes by the other traffic department - the ones who make entries into the automation logs.

OK, you all don't care about traffic reports. I get it. Apparently, neither does AAR.
As long as car radios have push buttons, it's easy to switch to the traffic reports.
Probably people don't bother to record that in their diaries, so AAR does not have to worry until PPMs roll out in New York. And who knows if they'll still be operating a station then anyway.
But like their XM deal and shafting of Sirius subscribers, the traffic deal is likely just about money. Listener be damned.
AAR's WLIB/WWRL traffic provider has been reporting losses and now takes out a big loan.
Their top management is military lifers, a good choice for a company that depends on government contracts for its sensor business (its primary line of business).
And maybe you don't care if employees complain about a company's discriminatory personnel practices either.
Maybe you are not concerned with whether it is seemly for a liberal/progressive talk network to be in business certain individuals or companies or engaging in certain practices.
The problem with claiming to be a "good guy" is then you have to act like one.
 
FightingIrish said:
QUICK! Z-100's losing money!!! They use Traffic.com!!!

Z-100 is a Clear Channel station and uses the company's own traffic service. Clear Channel dropped Traffic.com several years ago.
 
I think this is perfectly relevant to AAR simply for the fact they are on an AAR Affiliate. Doesn't matter if AAR doesn't own ther station, they contorl the programming.

Thanks Fred.
 
fred flintstone said:
FightingIrish said:
QUICK! Z-100's losing money!!! They use Traffic.com!!!

Z-100 is a Clear Channel station and uses the company's own traffic service. Clear Channel dropped Traffic.com several years ago.

That's sarcasm, in case you couldn't figure it out. I don't live in NYC, so I have no idea who uses what traffic service.
 
OK, you all don't care about traffic reports. I get it. Apparently, neither does AAR.

Wrong. When we're driving in our own cars during rush hour, we do care a great deal about getting a traffic report. We just don't much care what the source of that report is. That's the point you keep missing. There are something where the brand name matters. There are some things where the brand name doesn't. Traffic information is a generic commodity. Listeners don't much care what brand of traffic report they get, so long as they get a report.

Since the concept of "brand name" versus generic is so important regarding other aspects of news/talk radio, maybe you should learn more about the concept.
 
TRAFFIC REPORTS ARE NOT CREATED EQUAL

Radio_Realist said:
OK, you all don't care about traffic reports. I get it. Apparently, neither does AAR.

Wrong. When we're driving in our own cars during rush hour, we do care a great deal about getting a traffic report. We just don't much care what the source of that report is. That's the point you keep missing. There are something where the brand name matters. There are some things where the brand name doesn't. Traffic information is a generic commodity. Listeners don't much care what brand of traffic report they get, so long as they get a report.

Since the concept of "brand name" versus generic is so important regarding other aspects of news/talk radio, maybe you should learn more about the concept.

Now we are getting someplace.

Traffic reports on most stations are "store brands." Most stations put their own name on traffic reports ("In the W*** traffic center..."). You are correct, listeners don't care much about the source of the reports. They do care whether the reports they hear are timely and accurate. Since the station is putting it's own name on the traffic reports, they SHOULD care about whom they select as traffic provider.

Traffic reports are NOT generic in that they are not all created equal. Traffic reports are a product, not a commodity.

This board includes radio insiders (as well as fans). Insiders also have an interest in who provides what programming service to whom - and what their track records are.

AAR has an LMA in one market. They had planned to have more. The cellar-dweller traffic provider reportedly offered them a better deal with piece of the commercial revenue action from traffic reports. To keep costs down, this traffic provider arranged to have one announcer, working from the company website, pre-record traffic reports for (originally four) different markets, in which stations would be automated. The Traffic.com (then called "Mobility Technologies") computer set-up and the AAR automation systems required reports to be in the can at least eight minutes before air time (since multiple stations would be running reports at the same time, as a practical matter reports would be in the can even earlier). Fortunately for the quality of traffic reporting on WLIB (and now WWRL), Clear Channel decided to operate KPOJ as a radio station - not a repeater - using their own service and LMA's in Chicago and LA were terminated during the first month. That left Traffic.com's Philadelphia announcers feeding reports for New York only, still pre-recorded from out of town.

AAR could have had Shadow Traffic - with experienced local traffic reporters (who can pronounce street names correctly and know alternate routes), aircraft, mobile units and banks of live traffic cams enabling them to describe what is happening - but they opted for a tiny piece of additional revenue over quality. And Shadow could have provided live reports, as they do for other automated stations.

But, instead, AAR's one remaining "operated but not owned" station has traffic reports from a company that has been losing money, borrowing money and cutting corners in various ways but will share traffic spot revenue. This company which apparently believes, rightly or wrongly, that "the deal" is more important to broadcasters than the quality of the report listeners hear.

This is typical of AAR. One minute they throw money away on high-priced "names" and fancy facilities. Then they turn around and make "screw the listener" deals with XM Radio or Traffic.com - or fire a host ostensibly to save a few bucks.

AAR listeners in New York mostly don't know and don't care about any of this. They just know what they hear.
 
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