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ABC Cancels 3 Shows

About "Pushing Daisies"...My Favorite Show In Years ...


According to ABC President Bryan Fuller, "It's very likely that Pushing Daisies will end after episode 13, Which is a cliffhanger. But we are talking to DC Comics about doing comic books that will wrap up our storylines, and I already have a pitch for a [big-screen] movie ready to go."
ABC intends to air the remaining Daisies episodes that have been shot, either in the current Wednesday at 8
p.m. timeslot or in another spot.
 
"Flushing Daisies" 'LOST' (pun intended) me after the first 15 minutes of episode one. Apparently others felt the same way.

For a creative owner, Disney, to have this millstone of a network is beyond belief. With NBC and Fox in the tank and CBS showing little besides gun-waving copper shows ABC should have had no problems running away with the audience this year. Instead they can't make even a ground-breaking fantasy work. Unbelievable!

My network scorecard:

ABC: 1 (+ NCAA football on Saturdays)
NBC: 0
Fox: 0
CBS: 3

Newton Minnow would be turning over in his grave. WAIT! He's not dead yet! Sorry Newt.
 
Wait...Bryan Fuller was promoted to ABC President? How does Anne Sweeney (president of Disney-ABC Television Group) feel about that?

Thought Fuller was the Exec. Producer of "Daisies".
 
I don't know where I've been. I have never heard of any of these shows. If it's not on one of the History or Discovery channels, I don't watch it.
 
johnnyu said:
I don't know where I've been. I have never heard of any of these shows. If it's not on one of the History or Discovery channels, I don't watch it.

You're not alone johnny! And, I doubt that either of us are "old" either. The trouble is that network TV no longer tries to be a crowdpleaser - it falls all over itself to program to the 18-35 crowd (realistically the cutoff seems to be 30). Most of whom just aren't watching that much TV anymore. That leaves those of us who are north of 35 to feel as if we've been tossed into TV's dustbin. Even if we're really not that old.

I've heard of Pushing Daisies only from billboard and bus ads. Looked like a really dumb concept and I had no desire to waste an hour on it. As for the other two, never heard of 'em.

Just gave Life on Mars a try last night (357 channels and nothing on). It's an odd show, but it tries to be well done. I may try it again after its hiatus in January. But it is no crowdpleaser either. I just find the concept interesting.
 
BRNout said:
[The trouble is that network TV no longer tries to be a crowdpleaser - it falls all over itself to program to the 18-35 crowd (realistically the cutoff seems to be 30). Most of whom just aren't watching that much TV anymore.

Except that they are still watching TV. There's not been a stastically significant drop-off in viewers in that age range. They may be watching different shows, but they most certainly still are watching TV.
 
BRNout said:
You're not alone johnny! And, I doubt that either of us are "old" either. The trouble is that network TV no longer tries to be a crowdpleaser - it falls all over itself to program to the 18-35 crowd (realistically the cutoff seems to be 30).

Under the threat of being Nielson-slapped by The Old Gringo, my household has two in the 18-35 range and two over 40. The two younger ones watch virtually no TV at all. The younger-older one (female) watches nothing but network stuff (but only about 3 shows per week). The oldest one (ahem) watches 3 network shows per week, college football on Saturdays and everything else on cable/sat. If the network's advertising rates depended upon us they'd go broke (and may do so anyway).

Fox and NBC are SOL. ABC has one show and CBS three.
 
imhomerjay said:
BRNout said:
[The trouble is that network TV no longer tries to be a crowdpleaser - it falls all over itself to program to the 18-35 crowd (realistically the cutoff seems to be 30). Most of whom just aren't watching that much TV anymore.
Except that they are still watching TV. There's not been a stastically significant drop-off in viewers in that age range. They may be watching different shows, but they most certainly still are watching TV.
In my opinion, and I'll be 42 in Janurary, network television needs to get back to sitcoms, and ones that the whole family can watch without being embarassed. NBC has "Earl" which is somewhat funny if it weren't too R rated, and "Kath and Kim" is just weird (do we really want to watch a show with a whiney brat?). NBC should take note that their highest ratings came primarily from a good-hearted, but somewhat goofy governor from Alaska. If you look back on the history of highly rated TV shows, more often than not, the central characters were lovable. Why else would we waste our time with anything else?
 
Great idea about more family friendly sitcoms. I miss the old TGIF on ABC on Friday nights. Not everyone goes out on Friday nights. I like how FOX is at least trying to cater to families on Friday nights by moving 5th Grader and Lyrics to that night.
 
Finke should keep her 'unwatchable' comment about Eli Stone to herself. I grew to like it thanks to it following Lost on Thursday nights last season, and I followed the show's move to Tuesday nights this fall.

I also watched Pushing Daisies, which was innovative, though with an annoying tendency of getting too cute. I mostly watched because I really like Chi McBride--and NBC's Knight Rider turned out to be horrible.

Now I've got no reason to watch ABC except for Lost, the occasional Saturday Night Football game, and a few interesting NBA matchups.
 
Agreed re Eli Stone. I enjoy the story line; more times than not, it's uplifting, and I like the characters. As for the other two, no loss for us.

ABC is down to Lost and nothing else at our house (the overbearing politics of Boston Legal lost us years ago).
 
Nate Wesley said:
Finke should keep her 'unwatchable' comment about Eli Stone to herself. I grew to like it thanks to it following Lost on Thursday nights last season, and I followed the show's move to Tuesday nights this fall.

I also watched Pushing Daisies, which was innovative, though with an annoying tendency of getting too cute. I mostly watched because I really like Chi McBride--and NBC's Knight Rider turned out to be horrible.

Now I've got no reason to watch ABC except for Lost, the occasional Saturday Night Football game, and a few interesting NBA matchups.

I too, am disappointed about the cancellation of Pushing Daisies. It most definitely was very innovative, but it wasn't everybody's cup of tea. I hope Bryan Fuller tries again. I loved his earlier show, Dead Like Me. Both shows had their plugs pulled too early, in my opinion.

After last night's Oklahoma-Texas Tech massacre, maybe ABC might want to re-think about Saturday Night College Football. Talk about ratings-killers!

(singing) Boomer Sooner, Boomer Sooner.....
 
Personally, if it wasn't for last year's writer's strike, Daisies and Stone would still have a fighting chance today. But while the writers struck and the new episodes went dry, viewers moved on.
 
jsu5381m said:
Great idea about more family friendly sitcoms. I miss the old TGIF on ABC on Friday nights. Not everyone goes out on Friday nights. I like how FOX is at least trying to cater to families on Friday nights by moving 5th Grader and Lyrics to that night.

I caught Pushing Up Daisies 3 times, and liked it. It was a clever concept, and the staging of the show was very creative. The problem with high concept shows like this - at least for me - is that there is never a hook to get the viewer emotionally involved, or to get them to come back to watch subsequent episodes.

If I was around the house, and not busy doing something else, I would watch the show, but didn't care at all if I missed it...not even enough to DVR it.

I had the same problem with Arrested Development on Fox.
 
azumanga said:
Personally, if it wasn't for last year's writer's strike, Daisies and Stone would still have a fighting chance today. But while the writers struck and the new episodes went dry, viewers moved on.

No doubt the strike had something to do with it but consider '24' which was also affected by the strike and isn't back on in regular schedule even now. It developed a following (for some unknown reason) and people are waiting for it to come back on again despite the long layoff.

My guess is that if the above three shows had developed a similar following they would still be on the schedule strike or no strike.
 
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