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ABC Radio just can't learn their lesson with Davis

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Mark Davis back in syndication??? Paaaa-leeeze.

Ya know, ABC Radio already gave Mark Davis his shot at national syndication, and the moron failed miserably. A mere 8 months into it, with hardly an affiliate to speak of, ABC dropped his show in mid-2003. Why they think it'd be worth another shot is beyond me. There's nothing new and compelling there, and the election's LONG over...as evidenced by WBAP's drop from #2 to #5 in one of the first full views of their post-election performance.

Obviously, ABC is looking for something to combat Limbaugh with, since most conservative talk stations (even ABC's O&O's) program Limbaugh and ABC's Hannity as a one-two punch, cutting ABC out of half the action. But sheesh, DAVIS IS NOT THE ANSWER. A guy that calls himself a newspaper columnist, but gets exposure only on the op/ed page (where ANYONE with a typewriter can get published,) and I won't even mention his philandering escapades and wife-dumping episodes, and all the while, preaching to the masses like an innocent angel. Bush bless him.

>>ABC Radio Networks announced an exclusive multi-year agreement with talk-show personality Mark Davis to syndicate nationally “The Mark Davis Show” to radio outlets across the country. The show will run from 12 Noon - 2 pm ET with a tentative launch date around Labor Day.
 
> Mark Davis back in syndication??? Paaaa-leeeze.
>
> Ya know, ABC Radio already gave Mark Davis his shot at
> national syndication, and the moron failed miserably. A
> mere 8 months into it, with hardly an affiliate to speak of,
> ABC dropped his show in mid-2003. >

Davis said on this morning's show that his sunday ABC show ran for six years and he wanted out after tiring of working six days a week and due to the birth of his son.
 
> > Mark Davis back in syndication??? Paaaa-leeeze.
> >
> > Ya know, ABC Radio already gave Mark Davis his shot at
> > national syndication, and the moron failed miserably. A
> > mere 8 months into it, with hardly an affiliate to speak
> of,
> > ABC dropped his show in mid-2003. >
>
> Davis said on this morning's show that his sunday ABC show
> ran for six years and he wanted out after tiring of working
> six days a week and due to the birth of his son.
>

You're right, I forgot about his weekend effort. The show I was talking about was a daily one before, and looks to be a daily one again.
 
> > > Mark Davis back in syndication??? Paaaa-leeeze.
> > >
> > > Ya know, ABC Radio already gave Mark Davis his shot at
> > > national syndication, and the moron failed miserably. A
>
> > > mere 8 months into it, with hardly an affiliate to speak
>
> > of,
> > > ABC dropped his show in mid-2003. >
> >
> > Davis said on this morning's show that his sunday ABC show
>
> > ran for six years and he wanted out after tiring of
> working
> > six days a week and due to the birth of his son.
> >
>
> You're right, I forgot about his weekend effort. The show I
> was talking about was a daily one before, and looks to be a
> daily one again.
>

I was unaware he ever had a daily syndicated show. When was that?
 
I heard Mark on Sean Hannity yesterday, mentioning his new radio deal, as Sean brought his Barnstorming FreakShow of Political Pornography (title courtesy of
Bill Moyers) to Southfork ranch. He sounded good, doing a bit of a rant
about conservatives vs liberals. BUT I wonder if the following bit from
RadioEqualizer's blog refers to him...? (blog entry wondering if "talk radio
is adrift")

>>A longtime Dallas-Fort Worth talk show host, who built his reputation on conservative issues and once had a national program, spent an entire segment playing board games on-air with other staffers
 
Good lord how many talk shows of one political persuasion must there be? It's kinda like the housing boom. sooner or later it will collapse.Yeah I know the talk shows have been going very strong for at least 10 years,but it has reached it's peak. 'Liberal bashing" "Republicans are the new religion,etc. is showing signs of getting stale instead of talking about bonafide issues(some do but on a limited scale). Too bad instead of instead of increasing the quagmire of Talk,they can't use the same resources and actually develop a good News department that could be syndicated.
 
Okay folks, with a network time slot of 11AM to 1PM Central, does Mark Davis then do 9 to 11 locally, and WBAP carries Rush live? Or is Davis out the door, to concentrate on the national show?
 
> Okay folks, with a network time slot of 11AM to 1PM Central,
> does Mark Davis then do 9 to 11 locally, and WBAP carries
> Rush live? Or is Davis out the door, to concentrate on the
> national show?
>
Mark will stay. WBAP will not let him go at all.They will probably work it so the 2nd hour locally is his first hour nationally.Mark is WBAP's cash cow and he knows it.
 
> Okay folks, with a network time slot of 11AM to 1PM Central,
> does Mark Davis then do 9 to 11 locally, and WBAP carries
> Rush live? Or is Davis out the door, to concentrate on the
> national show?
>

Mark said on the show this morning that he'll do the local show from 9 til 11 then two hours national from 11 til 1. He says WBAP will carry the first 45 minutes of his national show in the 11 oclock hr then go to Paul Harvey. WBAP won't carry hour two of the national show. Rush and Hannity remain where they are.
 
> > Okay folks, with a network time slot of 11AM to 1PM
> Central,
> > does Mark Davis then do 9 to 11 locally, and WBAP carries
> > Rush live? Or is Davis out the door, to concentrate on
> the
> > national show?
> >
> Mark will stay. WBAP will not let him go at all.They will
> probably work it so the 2nd hour locally is his first hour
> nationally.Mark is WBAP's cash cow and he knows it.
>
I think their looking for an "radio heir apparent" for rush, as he's lost alot of steam over the past couple of years. Mark seems to be the ideal choice, as he does attract a younger audience than El Rushbo and isnt dependent on prescription drugs to get through his airshift.
 
> > > Okay folks, with a network time slot of 11AM to 1PM
> > Central,
> > > does Mark Davis then do 9 to 11 locally, and WBAP
> carries
> > > Rush live? Or is Davis out the door, to concentrate on
> > the
> > > national show?
> > >
> > Mark will stay. WBAP will not let him go at all.They will
> > probably work it so the 2nd hour locally is his first hour
>
> > nationally.Mark is WBAP's cash cow and he knows it.
> >
> I think their looking for an "radio heir apparent" for rush,
> as he's lost alot of steam over the past couple of years.
> Mark seems to be the ideal choice, as he does attract a
> younger audience than El Rushbo and isnt dependent on
> prescription drugs to get through his airshift.
>

I hadn't heard that Mark got his national show until these postings, but personally "More power to him".
Right now his show is my favorite talk program in Dallas. Syndicated or otherwise. He's educated, but not so much so that he talks down to people. He obviously has fun with his topics and audience. And right or wrong on a subject, he almost always makes the show compelling and well worth listening to.
He doesn't harp endlessly on the same crap day after day, and though a little trite from time to time, he makes for good radio.
I guess I can understand why all the "straight, serious political talk lovers" hate him.
Kudos to you Mark. Don't screw it up.
 
> > > Okay folks, with a network time slot of 11AM to 1PM
> > Central,
> > > does Mark Davis then do 9 to 11 locally, and WBAP
> carries
> > > Rush live? Or is Davis out the door, to concentrate on
> > the
> > > national show?
> > >
> > Mark will stay. WBAP will not let him go at all.They will
> > probably work it so the 2nd hour locally is his first hour
>
> > nationally.Mark is WBAP's cash cow and he knows it.
> >
> I think their looking for an "radio heir apparent" for rush,
> as he's lost alot of steam over the past couple of years.
> Mark seems to be the ideal choice, as he does attract a
> younger audience than El Rushbo and isnt dependent on
> prescription drugs to get through his airshift.
>

LOL!

Nothing like the 'three martini lunch' and 'six pack before breakfast'
ritual of the radio biz eh slambang?

What was Imus's daily drug intake again?

Did Stern ever totally give up the 'coke' parties?

Puh-leeze, let him who is with sin cast the first stone ...

_Jim
 
> Mark said on the show this morning that he'll do the local
> show from 9 til 11 then two hours national from 11 til 1.
> He says WBAP will carry the first 45 minutes of his national
> show in the 11 oclock hr then go to Paul Harvey. WBAP won't
> carry hour two of the national show. Rush and Hannity
> remain where they are.


Did hear him say he would start at 8 for the local show? He did say the show would be on at 9am west coast time.
 
Clearance is the issue.. not the host.

There are a couple of factual errors with your post.

For one thing, Davis' Sunday talk show was on for several years -- not 8 months.

Second, Davis is a newspaper columnist. He is paid by The Dallas Morning News to write a column for their paper. The Fort Worth Star Telegram employed him in the same capacity for something like 8 years before he started with the News last year.

The success of syndicating his show on a Monday through Friday basis is debatable. Davis is the top local radio talk show host in the DFW market. It seems somewhat logical that someone in that position might find success in more than one market. I think his show is best when he talks about local issues -- and things that aren't necessarily political.

I think the biggest problem ABC will have with this is clearing the program on enough stations. There is a huge glut of syndicated talk on the market. Unless ABC makes their O&O stations clear the show, they'll have a hard time finding good stations to run it.
 
>
> You're right, I forgot about his weekend effort. The show I
> was talking about was a daily one before, and looks to be a
> daily one again.
>

Umm.. Mark has NEVER had a daily nationally syndicated talk show. The only national show he's ever had was the sunday program.

???
 
Re: Clearance is the issue.. not the host.

> There are a couple of factual errors with your post.
>
> For one thing, Davis' Sunday talk show was on for several
> years -- not 8 months.
>

It was a Sunday show, used as filler on most stations.

> Second, Davis is a newspaper columnist. He is paid by The
> Dallas Morning News to write a column for their paper. The
> Fort Worth Star Telegram employed him in the same capacity
> for something like 8 years before he started with the News
> last year.
>

So what?

> The success of syndicating his show on a Monday through
> Friday basis is debatable. Davis is the top local radio
> talk show host in the DFW market. It seems somewhat logical
> that someone in that position might find success in more
> than one market. I think his show is best when he talks
> about local issues -- and things that aren't necessarily
> political.
>

It's not "logical", he couldn't do it before. Take Rush away from BAP, what happens to Davis's numbers?

> I think the biggest problem ABC will have with this is
> clearing the program on enough stations. There is a huge
> glut of syndicated talk on the market. Unless ABC makes
> their O&O stations clear the show, they'll have a hard time
> finding good stations to run it.
>

Now you're on track. Nowhere for this to go.
 
> > Mark said on the show this morning that he'll do the local
>
> > show from 9 til 11 then two hours national from 11 til 1.
>
> > He says WBAP will carry the first 45 minutes of his
> national
> > show in the 11 oclock hr then go to Paul Harvey. WBAP
> won't
> > carry hour two of the national show. Rush and Hannity
> > remain where they are.
>
>
> Did hear him say he would start at 8 for the local show? He
> did say the show would be on at 9am west coast time.
>

11 AM CST = 9 AM west coast doesn't it?
 
Re: Clearance is the issue.. not the host.

> Davis is a newspaper columnist. He is paid by The
> Dallas Morning News to write a column for their paper. The
> Fort Worth Star Telegram employed him in the same capacity
> for something like 8 years before he started with the News
> last year.
>
Davis' writing style is horrible. He was given a slot in the
Fort Worth Star Telegram only because Disney owned the paper at
the time.
 
Making this Crystal Clear: Mark dropped network; network didn't drop Mark

> It's not "logical", he [Mark] couldn't do it before.

I would like further amplification of this aspect, as I, too,
recall Davis explaining <u>why he dropped</u> doing his Sunday broadcasts
(translating: Mark dropped the network, the network didn't drop Mark).

As near as I can tell, there is something in the water lately or we
have a lot of idealogically-driven 'memories' being created in contradiction
to reality and the actual facts surrounding events.

Regards, _Jim
 
Re: Making this Crystal Clear: Mark dropped network; network didn't drop Mark

THE network dropped Mark, Not enough stations cleared the showon sunday due to ...football..basketball. Mark would not admit the Net cancelled him and he said it to save face. ..The absolute truth.The absolute truth was also he had a new relationship and wanted time with his children. Therefore he told the truth NOT the WHOLE truth.
 
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