About the CW Plus....

[Iowan]

According to one source, the Quad Cities market (which are parts of western Illinois and eastern Iowa) are the ninety-seventh DMA this year! Here's my question: If the market in question sinks below the one-hundred line, will the TV station KGCW have to convert to the CW Plus schedule?

 

[azumanga]

I don't think so -- if the market with a regular CW station sinks below 100 or a market with a CW+ station rises above 100, nothing should happen. There are a few markets that are like this; in Boise, there's even a station (KNIN) that carries regular CW on its main feed and CW+ on digital.

 

[Iowan]

Wait a minute--so Boise has two CW stations (this KNIN and the CW Plus)? Is that legal? Of course, in the second half of the 1980s and up 'til around 1994, the Quad Cities had two Fox stations: KLJB in Davenport and KJMH in Burlington (now "The Quad Cities' CW"). In that case, here's my idea: Since Quad Citians get CW proggramming on KLJB-DT, then let CW Plus air there (on KLJB-DT) while KGCW serves as "Burlington's CW"? Personally, I think that would make sense....

 

[Kent]

Wait a minute--so Boise has two CW stations (this KNIN and the CW Plus)? Is that legal?

Legal? Certainly! There's no law, at least that I'm aware of, against a network airing on multiple stations in a single market. I don't see how you could lose your license or go to jail for it! There could be contractual issues with a network airing on two stations in the same market, but it's a non-issue in Boise since the two CW stations are co-owned.

Of course, in the second half of the 1980s and up 'til around 1994, the Quad Cities had two Fox stations: KLJB in Davenport and KJMH in Burlington (now "The Quad Cities' CW"). In that case, here's my idea: Since Quad Citians get CW proggramming on KLJB-DT, then let CW Plus air there (on KLJB-DT) while KGCW serves as "Burlington's CW"? Personally, I think that would make sense....

Grand Rapids has two ABC affiliates in WZZM 13 and WOTV 41.

 

[azumanga]

Grand Rapids has two ABC affiliates in WZZM 13 and WOTV 41.

What's interesting about that is that WZZM serves Grand Rapids and the norther part of the market, while WOTV serves Battle Creek, Kalamazoo and the southern part of the market. But what's even more interesting is that, in the last few years, both stations were claiming Grand Rapids as that city's ABC affiliate (in part due to LIN, owner of NBC affil WOOD, also owning WOTV)

In the Tampa Bay area, that market also has two ABC stations, WFTS in Tampa and WWSB in Sarasota -- even though each other's transmitters are only about 20 miles apart, they generally keep to their own areas.

 

[anotherguyTN]

In the Birmingham area ABC is carried by WCFT 33 in Tucscaloosa and WJSU 40 in Anniston. Here is a link to their website: http://www.abc3340.com/

 

[Garrett]

According to one source, the Quad Cities market (which are parts of western Illinois and eastern Iowa) are the ninety-seventh DMA this year! Here's my question: If the market in question sinks below the one-hundred line, will the TV station KGCW have to convert to the CW Plus schedule?

I thought 100+ was just a name, I didn't think it signaled any kind of contractual "you must carry in full if you are below 100." In fact, the CW in Lubbock carries 100+ only during the day, but goes to the all shopping network overnight.

 

[TexasTom]

Wait a minute--so Boise has two CW stations (this KNIN and the CW Plus)? Is that legal?

It's not really a separate station. KNIN's analog signal (channel 9) and digital 9.1 are The CW programming combined with KNIN's local programming schedule, and digital 9.2 carries the CW Plus service.

 

[azumanga]

In the Birmingham area ABC is carried by WCFT 33 in Tucscaloosa and WJSU 40 in Anniston.

Though unlike Tampa Bay and Grand Rapids, they're both the same station. If they were still separate CBS affiliates serving their own communities, it might be different.

 

[JeeperOne]

Hi everyone:

Wait a minute--so Boise has two CW stations (this KNIN and the CW Plus)? Is that legal?

It's not really a separate station. KNIN's analog signal (channel 9) and digital 9.1 are The CW programming combined with KNIN's local programming schedule, and digital 9.2 carries the CW Plus service.

Doesn't KNIN carry the NBC WeatherPlus service? If so, I would think that would be on Digital 9.2 instead of the CW 100+ and CW network programming would air on a secondary basis to the NBC schedule (Like late at night after NBC late night or something like that).

Thoughts?

Cheers

 

[dhett]

Doesn't KNIN carry the NBC WeatherPlus service? If so, I would think that would be on Digital 9.2 instead of the CW 100+ and CW network programming would air on a secondary basis to the NBC schedule (Like late at night after NBC late night or something like that).

Why would a CW affiliate (KNIN) carry NBC WeatherPlus on a subchannel, when the market has an NBC affiliate (KTVB)?

 

[Iowan]

Re: About KNIN Boise--how about "My K9 TV" instead?

I just checked out knin.com (there's no weather channel), and now I really think both KNIN and KNIN-DT being the CW is really absurd--especially since the main frequency only airs CW programming from 7 P.M. to 9 P.M. Monday thru Friday and Sunday from 6 P.M. thru 9 P.M., pre-empting The CW Daytime and Kids WB. Here's a better idea: Since Boise has no My Network TV station (according to wikipedia.org), CW Plus should just air on KNIN-DT while channel nine airs programming from My Network TV....

 

[Morgan Wick]

KNIN showing CW Plus on digital while being a mainline CW affiliate goes back to the days when KNIN was a UPN affiliate and the digital channel was WB 100+. That probably also explains why the main channel doesn't clear the entire schedule (it only clears the hours UPN programmed). Does My Network TV have a service similar to CW Plus, and if so, can stations program over it? I'm sure they don't want to forfeit locally-programmed space on their schedule or have to program an entire other station.

Grand Rapids has two ABC affiliates in WZZM 13 and WOTV 41.

What's interesting about that is that WZZM serves Grand Rapids and the norther part of the market, while WOTV serves Battle Creek, Kalamazoo and the southern part of the market. But what's even more interesting is that, in the last few years, both stations were claiming Grand Rapids as that city's ABC affiliate (in part due to LIN, owner of NBC affil WOOD, also owning WOTV)

In the Tampa Bay area, that market also has two ABC stations, WFTS in Tampa and WWSB in Sarasota -- even though each other's transmitters are only about 20 miles apart, they generally keep to their own areas.

I read on Wikipedia that the main reason WZZM doesn't serve points further south is that its channel assignment is too close to some station in I think Toledo. That problem will go away when the switch to digital occurs, so theoretically WZZM could move further south and make WOTV really redundant. WOTV's news is basically a simulcast of WOOD's if I recall, and it's a UHF station and I think 'ZZM is on channel 13. Maybe then WOTV could become the area's CW affiliate (it's on digital right now).