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Additional Frequency For Overcomer Ministry/Bro. Stair via Bulgaria

From Spaceline Bulgaria owners:

As of 1 May 2023, The Overcomer Ministry moved to a new frequency 15400 kHz via Shortwave Airtime - Space Line Ltd. Bulgaria , every day, 1500-1800 UTC.
Reception reports at [email protected]

Right now, 15400 is slated to be on these 3 hours a day.
 
From Spaceline Bulgaria owners:

As of 1 May 2023, The Overcomer Ministry moved to a new frequency 15400 kHz via Shortwave Airtime - Space Line Ltd. Bulgaria , every day, 1500-1800 UTC.
Reception reports at [email protected]

Right now, 15400 is slated to be on these 3 hours a day.
Where does that ministry come up with the money for all those short wave broadcasts that have fewer and fewer listeners?
 
Where does that ministry come up with the money for all those short wave broadcasts that have fewer and fewer listeners?

Dont know, i dont ask.

KSKO has benefitted greatly from the generosity of Spaceline and a benefactor which has put us on shortwave mondays on 5900 at 2100UTC, when i lease additional time for special programming.. so i try not to criticize.
 
Where does that ministry come up with the money for all those short wave broadcasts that have fewer and fewer listeners?
Brother Stair is dead, so perhaps it's a legacy he left to the ministry. They did seem to appear on a bunch of US domestic AMs (mostly Birach blocktimers) shortly after he carked it, which suggests a sudden uptick in airtime spending commensurate with something like that happening.

The idea that asking "where's the money coming from?" is "criticism" is odd. The Bulgarian operator will take the money if Overcomer is offering - no criticism of them at all. It's natural to be critical of Overcomer's "programming", though.
 
If you listen to the Bro. Stair program, it's cheaply produced, so all the money related to the broadcast obviously goes to the SW and MW stations.

And there are people who call into the message recorder (many of them broadcast on the program) and they say they listen on SW.

Asking where they get their money would be similar to asking where EMF gets their money, or any other religious broadcast program. They all purchase blocks of time on religious radio stations across the US, not just Bro. Stair. The money must be available from somewhere to support the shows.

And where does Supreme Master TV get their income to cover all of their broadcasts -- TV and satellite as well as SW?

The money is obviously coming in from somewhere. Probably dedicated people who have the means to donate.
 
I can't imagine who listens, especially overseas.
Same here, except a lot of people in Asia and Africa still use SW as a mass medium. The BBC and VOA each designate a couple hours in English to West Africa alone.

On some national religious broadcasts I've heard on local radio there are references to overseas listeners. The Through The Bible program frequently references overseas listeners in places like Iran and Pakistan -- although the net, or satellite, is often mentioned as a source, I've heard SW mentioned as well. Religious broadcasters like AWR and TWR both seem to believe SW is effective for getting 'the message' to Asia and Africa.

So who knows, really?
 
Same here, except a lot of people in Asia and Africa still use SW as a mass medium. The BBC and VOA each designate a couple hours in English to West Africa alone.

On some national religious broadcasts I've heard on local radio there are references to overseas listeners. The Through The Bible program frequently references overseas listeners in places like Iran and Pakistan -- although the net, or satellite, is often mentioned as a source, I've heard SW mentioned as well. Religious broadcasters like AWR and TWR both seem to believe SW is effective for getting 'the message' to Asia and Africa.

So who knows, really?
Africa has very little Shortwave left, and other than China, not much remaining of importance in Asia.

If you look at Ghana, Burkina Faso, Congo, Central African Republic, Burundi and Angola (6 I picked at random from Africa) there are no SW stations in any of them any more.

And, of course, how many people in any of those nations would understand Brother Stair's English, anyway?
 
Same here, except a lot of people in Asia and Africa still use SW as a mass medium. The BBC and VOA each designate a couple hours in English to West Africa alone.

On some national religious broadcasts I've heard on local radio there are references to overseas listeners. The Through The Bible program frequently references overseas listeners in places like Iran and Pakistan -- although the net, or satellite, is often mentioned as a source, I've heard SW mentioned as well. Religious broadcasters like AWR and TWR both seem to believe SW is effective for getting 'the message' to Asia and Africa.

So who knows, really?
Where I previously lived in the UK, I was able to receive Through the Bible as well as (joy of joys) Focus on the Family and various other US based religious programming on an LPFM station. These shows are largely syndicated via local FMs in different countries rather than listened to widely on shortwave. I understand that these shows pay-to-play on the stations where they appear. AWR is on DAB in London.

Most African countries are FM-only nowadays, they don't even have AMs let alone SW. In a resource-constrained environment like, say, Burundi there's just not the money there to keep aged AM equipment on the air when it's not needed. FM is simpler to engineer, smaller antennas, and the receivers cost a few dollars and/or are built into the cheap mobile phones in use in African countries. Where SW does exist, you often find China hanging around in the background, like in Mali where China funds a Malian SW transmitter which carries both Malian radio and CRI.
 
Where SW does exist, you often find China hanging around in the background, like in Mali where China funds a Malian SW transmitter which carries both Malian radio and CRI.
China also recently installed a new 50kw shortwave transmitter in the Congo Republic (Brazzaville) to replace an ancient unit that had been out of service for a number of years. Operating on 6115 kHz the new unit is intended to provide the national radio network to areas outside the reach of FM. Numerous reports of it being heard in Europe.
If you look at Ghana, Burkina Faso, Congo, Central African Republic, Burundi and Angola (6 I picked at random from Africa) there are no SW stations in any of them any more.
Angolan National Radio has been heard by SWDXers on 4950 kHz as recently as 2021, but I don’t recall any reports of it lately. Is it listed in the 2023 WRTH? (I haven’t gotten around to ordering a copy.)
 
While I'm sure a lot of Africans benefit from the religious programs (and so do the missionaries from this country who go to Africa and spread love to those who need it the most), Brother Stair is not one of those. He was a kook, a crazy guy, compared to some of the other religious programs on FM radio here, like Focus on the Family, or David Jeremiah's Turning Point. How does anyone in rural Chad or Angola benefit from his crazy rants and screaming? It's a WASTE of electricity that could be used for TWR or AWR instead.
 
While I'm sure a lot of Africans benefit from the religious programs (and so do the missionaries from this country who go to Africa and spread love to those who need it the most), Brother Stair is not one of those. He was a kook, a crazy guy, compared to some of the other religious programs on FM radio here, like Focus on the Family, or David Jeremiah's Turning Point. How does anyone in rural Chad or Angola benefit from his crazy rants and screaming? It's a WASTE of electricity that could be used for TWR or AWR instead.

Spaceline Bulgaria will run whatever theyre paid to. They are an independently owned broadcaster that leases time..... and if TWR or AWR wanted to air their programs, they would.... TWR has some of its own transmission facilities in Africa and they along with AWR rent time from Nauen, Issoudun and Moosbruun, mainly... with a few religious entities leasing form Lampertheim.
 
I think some of you may be missing my previous point. SW reaches into Asia, Africa and similar areas of the world where billions of people live, and operations like TWR and AWR and the VOA and DW and BBC and Radio France Int'l and several others wouldn't bother devoting hours of broadcasting to those regions on SW if there were zero listeners. And obviously some of their justification for using SW is that it can't be easily geofenced by unfriendly governments, and then there is the issue of Soft Power and reaching a potential audience, which comes into play whenever international, government backed broadcasters are involved..

A lot of the countries in Africa and Asia have repressive regimes, and overseas information and SW is one way for people to get information, be it news or otherwise (or, in the case of religious broadcasters, a religion frowned upon by the state). Many may not be using the SW services. But they're there, in case someone chooses to listen.

And, of course, it doesn't mean a lot of people are listening. But someone is obviously listening. The BBC famously pulled its North American SW services because they determined that the small listenership on SW in NA was not worth the expense of using SW to cover this part of the world. They have shown that they are well aware of potential audiences (or lack thereof), and apparently must get enough feedback from listeners in regions like Burma, Iran, Sudan, and West Africa to determine that SW is reaching people. They still devote two full hours, in English, to West Africa, nearly every night.

And sure, Africa has FM. In the cities. And yes, there are millions in the cities like Lagos and Accra and Kinshasa but there are millions more in the countryside. South Africa even has nationwide coverage of their national networks on FM (installed during the apartheid era). But it's arguably the most developed country on the continent. Millions of people in Africa and Asia live in rural areas, probably beyond the reach of the FM stations in the cities. I'm sure the issues of terrain shadows, poor or marginal FM coverage, and similar factors come into play in Africa and Asia as much as they do here in the US and Canada.

RE: Brother Stair. Yes, he was a kook. But his ministry feels the "need" to get the "word" of the "last day prophet" to the world. So, if they have the money, they'll broadcast to the world in whichever way they can. To them it's potential reach. A lot of more mainstream Christian evangelical broadcasters have the same thought on SW and other ways to get their message to the Mideast, Central and South Asia, Africa, and the like. To them it's the "potential audience" thing, something BigA mentioned in another thread where he was talking about the ability of sports talk stations to survive on low ratings -- in that case, advertisers go on the "potential reach" of the sports network, and the potential demos they are trying to reach.

The principle appears to be much the same with the religious SW broadcasters, and probably some of the governmental SW broadcasters as well -- the principles of potential reach, and Soft Power -- something the Chinese are definitely aware of. I think those in the VOA are aware of the concept as well. Every time I hear VOA's broadcast to Africa there is a brief and to-the-point "Opinion of the United States Government" broadcast on it. I doubt any FM or MW station in Africa would allow that to be broadcast. And internet streams from the VOA might be blocked in some African and Asian countries.

And I'm sure there are some people who do give feedback to the SW stations. When the stations get zero feedback, and the budgets start getting thin, then you'll see less SW broadcasts to the Fourth World. It's already decreased since the early 2010s. Ministries and governments have to check their budgets as much as commercial broadcasters have to.
 
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While I'm sure a lot of Africans benefit from the religious programs (and so do the missionaries from this country who go to Africa and spread love to those who need it the most),
But if missionaries go to African nations, they generally have to teach and preach in local languages and dialects, not English.
Brother Stair is not one of those.
Totally agree.
He was a kook, a crazy guy, compared to some of the other religious programs on FM radio here, like Focus on the Family, or David Jeremiah's Turning Point. How does anyone in rural Chad or Angola benefit from his crazy rants and screaming? It's a WASTE of electricity that could be used for TWR or AWR instead.
Assuming that there is a large base of potential listeners who understand either British or American English.
 
I think some of you may be missing my previous point. SW reaches into Asia, Africa and similar areas of the world where billions of people live, and operations like TWR and AWR and the VOA and DW and BBC and Radio France Int'l and several others wouldn't bother devoting hours of broadcasting to those regions on SW if there were zero listeners.
But all of those have cut way back on SW broadcasts in more recent years as they understand that nearly nobody listens to SW any longer. Most of those that you mention are government sponsored, and inertia keeps them going beyond their real end of life.
And obviously some of their justification for using SW is that it can't be easily geofenced by unfriendly governments, and then there is the issue of Soft Power and reaching a potential audience, which comes into play whenever international, government backed broadcasters are involved..
Again, the near total absence of affordable SW radios in any of those locations makes the reach of such stations zooming in fast on "zero".
A lot of the countries in Africa and Asia have repressive regimes, and overseas information and SW is one way for people to get information, be it news or otherwise (or, in the case of religious broadcasters, a religion frowned upon by the state). Many may not be using the SW services. But they're there, in case someone chooses to listen.
If they could find and afford a radio.
And, of course, it doesn't mean a lot of people are listening. But someone is obviously listening. The BBC famously pulled its North American SW services because they determined that the small listenership on SW in NA was not worth the expense of using SW to cover this part of the world. They have shown that they are well aware of potential audiences (or lack thereof), and apparently must get enough feedback from listeners in regions like Burma, Iran, Sudan, and West Africa to determine that SW is reaching people. They still devote two full hours, in English, to West Africa, nearly every night.
But they have the facilities and, up to now, the budget. But as their SW facilities age, none are being upgraded or replaced. This is like an old car that you keep as long as it runs but never replace.
And sure, Africa has FM. In the cities. And yes, there are millions in the cities like Lagos and Accra and Kinshasa but there are millions more in the countryside.
And even the smallest towns have FMs, often more than they can support. Closer to home, Port-au-Prince has about 50 FMs. Tiny towns in the mountain areas have five or six, many of them unlicensed. Same is true in much of Africa and many places like Indonesia, Myanmar and the like.
South Africa even has nationwide coverage of their national networks on FM (installed during the apartheid era). But it's arguably the most developed country on the continent. Millions of people in Africa and Asia live in rural areas, probably beyond the reach of the FM stations in the cities.
But they are close enough to towns and smaller cities that all have FM.
I'm sure the issues of terrain shadows, poor or marginal FM coverage, and similar factors come into play in Africa and Asia as much as they do here in the US and Canada.
But it is a minor factor. Those nations would not have closed their government operated AM stations if this were significant.
The principle appears to be much the same with the religious SW broadcasters, and probably some of the governmental SW broadcasters as well -- the principles of potential reach, and Soft Power -- something the Chinese are definitely aware of. I think those in the VOA are aware of the concept as well.
But the VOA is taking a much more new media approach. They stream, and in some nations they buy time on one of the less successful FM operations.
Every time I hear VOA's broadcast to Africa there is a brief and to-the-point "Opinion of the United States Government" broadcast on it. I doubt any FM or MW station in Africa would allow that to be broadcast. And internet streams from the VOA might be blocked in some African and Asian countries.
The local VOA broadcasts (and they go back to the 50's providing taped shows to local radio via the US Embassy offices all over the world) are either run free or paid in many places. For a while, I had an FM that ran French, British, German, Italian, British, Spanish and US embassy shows prior to 6 PM and did classical music 6 to Midnight and made good money.
 
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