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Advice for a home studio mic purchase

I've got the opportunity to upgrade my home studio microphone, and when it comes to what to buy, I'm completely stumped. I'll be doing VO work, some voicetracking for a radio station and a little narration. I'm working on a ~$300 budget. I was previously using an Audio-Technica AT2020, which worked pretty well as a starter mic.

Here's what I'm considering so far:
Rode NTG-1 or NTG-2
Rode Procaster
Audio-Technica AT4040
Audio-Technica AT2035

Who's got some advice or experience with these? Any I should add or take away from this list? Thanks in advance!
 
Oh boy! Can I "go to school on your dime"?

I also have an AT2020. Something I said in these forums a few years back comes back in a tag line now and then: Why would I buy a $450 microphone when I have an $89.95 voice!

After listening to all the chatter by folks who are veteran mic-pickers, I get the idea there is no ONE BEST CHOICE that applies to everyone. One of the mics on your list might make you sound so much better, and that same mic might be less suited for me than what I have.

But... a good mic conversation is always enjoyable.

And, for the sake of this conversation, let me share "my little learning event" of this week. I am revamping my home studio. I want to start doing narrations. My layout includes a non-adjustable stand-up mic mount. For narrations I may find that I want to sit. In reading a lot of sites with helpful hints I was somewhat amused about people giving advice about "sound proofing" everything in the vicinity of your mic. And pictures in their YouTube tutorials showed them draping fabric with all the acoustic qualities of a table cloth on their desk and anything hear the mic. And I sit here, all pumped up with self-wisdom muttering: "Hey you dummies, you do that to keep the papers quiet and you turn the pages and other mechanical actions. That won't change your acoustics. You need to look at the WHOLE ROOM for acoustics."

So I jerry-rigged my mic down to a temporary sit-down level which put it side by side with my monitors and some other hard surface objects. Holy Cow, Batman! They made a believer out of me!!! I have spent my week-end building some acoustic treatments to make a sit-down operation work! I should know sometime tomorrow if I have conquered the beast.

So, I assume two things. A new mic needs to be compatible with your voice tonality. A new mic needs to be compatible with the acoustics of your room. I hope you can purchase from a vendor who will let you return the product if you get less than a happy-face result from the mic you select.
 
Some great points, my friend! So far I've been pretty pleased with Amazon.com though next time I may try Sweetwater — seems like they have good prices and service.
 
Goat Rodeo Cowboy said:
A new mic needs to be compatible with your voice tonality. I hope you can purchase from a vendor who will let you return the product if you get less than a happy-face result from the mic you select.

Key sentence about vocal tone. One idea...if you have a local studio with a deep mic closet, spend the bucks to book a session to test possible mic options in a studio setting. And find a way to use your home studio pre in that test session.

As for vendors, Sweetwater is the top of my list. Second place is B&H Photo Video Pro Audio.
 
I'm generally leaning toward the Rode options I listed because I know they are well-made microphones, and also because my studio setting is somewhat variable in terms of acoustic surroundings. I am renting an apartment for the time being and can't really do treatment to eliminate room tone as good as it would be done in a more permanent location, so what I think would suit me better is either a midrange shotgun mic like the NTG-1 or 2, or a well-made dynamic mic like the Procaster. I included the two Audio-Technica mics simply because I appreciated the value of the AT2020 and figure that their higher-priced mics deserve a look, though I feel that a traditional condenser would require more room treatment.
 
In that space, you'll benefit from the tight pattern on the shotguns. Anyone with thoughts on the AT 8035?
 
I know it's not on your list, but did you consider something like a Hiel PR-30? I've been real pleased with the ones I've installed and they sound pretty good when processed. I've seen them for under $300 as well.
 
Bill DeFelice said:
I know it's not on your list, but did you consider something like a Hiel PR-30? I've been real pleased with the ones I've installed and they sound pretty good when processed. I've seen them for under $300 as well.

I saw it the other day, and I had previously considered a PR-40 before establishing a $300-and-under price tag. How does it sound compared to the PR-40?
 
@whitfm: I can't say as I've never auditioned the 40. I too had a budget for the first studio I used the PR-30 mics in and that was why I picked them. I had used the with both DBX 286a processors and a few others which I can't recall the brand/model. I was more than happy with it and it saved a bit of change when compared to the price of the PR-40.
 
Whitfm,

I have the Rode NTG1 shotgun. It's just OK, a bit boxy sounding and a bit dull. It's no Sennheiser 416, which I also have.
My main mic is a Neumann TLM-193, as a point off reference.

A new favorite is the Electro Voice RE-320. To my ear it fixes what was lacking on the RE-20. Full, clear, and slightly hotter output, and $100 less than an RE-20. I recommend it!
 
surfdude said:
Whitfm,

I have the Rode NTG1 shotgun. It's just OK, a bit boxy sounding and a bit dull. It's no Sennheiser 416, which I also have.
My main mic is a Neumann TLM-193, as a point off reference.

A new favorite is the Electro Voice RE-320. To my ear it fixes what was lacking on the RE-20. Full, clear, and slightly hotter output, and $100 less than an RE-20. I recommend it!

Thanks for your suggestion. I love Electro Voice mics, so that's one I'll put on my list as well.
 
I think at this point what I'm wondering about more than anything is the type of microphone I need. The voice-over people I've worked with generally use condenser mics, one uses a Sennheiser 416, so given that fact I initially looked more at shotgun mics. A couple of you who have responded really favor dynamic mics like the Heil PR-30 and the RE320, both of which are excellent as far as I can tell.

At this particular moment, all of my VO stuff is done for radio stations, but I am also exploring an opportunity for some voice-overs for a mid-market TV station. If I was just doing radio only, I'd probably get the RE320 or the Rode Procaster and be done with it. One thing I do like about both of those mics is that they handle plosives very well. But given the room treatment situation, I still wonder if a shotgun pickup pattern is my best bet. Any more thoughts?
 
I have a slightly caustic observation about voice-over mics and facilities. A person with a decent voice working in a decent room using a garden variety decent mic can produce content that is equal to or exceeds most of the programming content on most radio stations.

I have looked at radio voice-over folks web pages for years and saw a pattern. Now that I am also looking at the promotional material and web sites of the folks who do narration work... as in audio books and video documentaries, the pattern becomes even more obvious. Voice-over people focusing on broadcast production buy gear that is "eye candy" to their prospective customers. It's kind of like a business man making sure he joins the right country club when he moves into a new town.

Buy the mic that will impress your customers. When you post your picture on your website, be sure the mic is turned so they can see the brand and the model. Your next step is to make sure you have a pre-amp and/or audio processor that is also socially proper and list them along with your personal credentials in your sales and promotional material.

I have no doubt that their quality-price ration is great, but if I am marketing myself as a broadcast voice, the last thing I want in my picture or listed in my bio is a Heil mic.
 
Goat Rodeo Cowboy said:
I get the idea there is no ONE BEST CHOICE that applies to everyone. One of the mics on your list might make you sound so much better, and that same mic might be less suited for me than what I have.

A station for whom I worked used to have Nuemann U-87's in all the prod rooms, for those rooms and for all the voice talent they were great mics...except for one guy. The properties of the U-87 raised the lower mid range of his voice and made his voice sound muddy. I then tried a series of different mics until I got to a cheap, beat up Sennheiser MD421- he sounded great on that mic.

Similarly my previous studio was on the 6th floor of a highrise with floor to ceiling windows, and no soundproofing- zero, zilch and a room about the size of a semi trailer. In that room I used an RE20 - no processing and I got a very nice sound out of it- when they finally moved me into a real studio the RE20 sounded horrible- I switched to a Rode Broadcaster with a Symetrix 528E and all's right with the world.

I've found that while my current setup is good, I prefer a U-87- I have yet to find a mic that suits me better. But I also don;t have a picture of my mic on my website :)
 
surfdude said:
A new favorite is the Electro Voice RE-320. To my ear it fixes what was lacking on the RE-20. Full, clear, and slightly hotter output, and $100 less than an RE-20. I recommend it!

I've had the opportunity over the last couple of days to listen to about a dozen different recordings with the RE320, along with A/B comparisons of it against an RE20, RE27 and a Shure SM7B. I gotta tell ya, you might just be on to something with this RE320 suggestion. Sounds really close to a condenser thanks to a nice bump in the highs.
 
whitfm said:
I've had the opportunity over the last couple of days to listen to about a dozen different recordings with the RE320, along with A/B comparisons of it against an RE20, RE27 and a Shure SM7B. I gotta tell ya, you might just be on to something with this RE320 suggestion.

It looks like you are doing a great job of working your way through this "decision tree". When you pointed out that you are an apartment dweller, it reminded me of years gone by when people were so generous with their advice on how I should live my life and build my career, but they didn't seem to comprehend the circumstances I had to work with.

I listen to the sound of radio today, sometimes with puzzlement. Why? Who comes up with these bright ideas? Then reality drips on my head like the gutter at my front door that I need to get up there and repair. Radio stations are often "living in rented space" that limits their ability to renovate the space. Just like many of the young talents that provide the voice sounds of the industry, operating budgets limit the scope of programming and the scope of their facility. Maybe all of this is well and appropriate. Radio is driven to reach and market to a youthful audience and the listeners face some of these same limitations in their own lives, so the sound of radio of today is created by people and facilities who identify with the listeners who tend to deal with some of these same limitations on space and personal development. Maybe the sound of radio indeed speaks to it's audience in subliminal ways!

The RE-320 may be the right hardware for what you are doing.

On the other hand, I possess a very small and modest piece of property. I can put nail-holes in the wall if I want to. And I possess a small and modest assortment of woodworking tools, and have a space where they can sleep. I aspire to narrate audio books and I am having to try and wrap my brain around the circumstances and mental processes of people who are listeners to audio books rather than the radio. I suspect it is fair to say they are seeking a few minutes with a sound that is quite different than what they will hear in the morning when they turn on their radio. So my equation is circular. The mic has to fit my voice. I shall bend and shape the room and "put make-up on the pig" so that the room supports the voice and the mic. And when I "slide down into the cockpit" in this space, my voice needs to return the favors and see what it can do to meet the mic half-way, and meet the room half-way. And at the end of the day, it becomes a space where Barney Fife meets Shelby Foote!

I shudder to think what it would have done to my bank account if I had hired a contractor and gone with him to Guitar Center or somewhere they sell those factory made acoustic panels and turned him loose. But I can also tell you that Southern Living is probably not going to send a photographer out to capture what I have done.

I have two more small panels to complete and then maybe I can send you a picture or two of something you might be able to plagiarize for use in an apartment setting.

Whatever mic you select, I join in with others who wait to read your final decision, and maybe you can post an A/B recording demonstration.
 
Goat Rodeo Cowboy said:
I shudder to think what it would have done to my bank account if I had hired a contractor and gone with him to Guitar Center or somewhere they sell those factory made acoustic panels and turned him loose. But I can also tell you that Southern Living is probably not going to send a photographer out to capture what I have done.

I have two more small panels to complete and then maybe I can send you a picture or two of something you might be able to plagiarize for use in an apartment setting.

Whatever mic you select, I join in with others who wait to read your final decision, and maybe you can post an A/B recording demonstration.

Thank you very much for your encouragement! I would definitely be interested in how you work things out. I've seen what Guitar Center is asking for some of their acoustic foam and room treatments, and it is insane. Some of the small sound reflection filters that attach to a mic stand caught my eye, but at their prices it would be cheaper to build one using some kind of hard cardboard or plastic as a backing. Maybe even attaching foam to something like those three-panel storyboards that kids use for class projects and whatnot.

What I had been using to begin with was an Audio-Technica AT2020. I thought for the price it was an excellent deal, had good fidelity but did need some TLC once I got the audio piped into Audition. And of course, being a condenser it picked up plenty of room noise. My family was very gracious this year and wanted to get me something as an "upgrade," which turned out to be a Shure SM58 -- a fine microphone for live voice and on-location remote broadcasts, but in a studio setting on voice is somewhat challenging due to its proximity effect.

Anyway, we'll see how things go soon. It still may be a couple of weeks before I'm able to make a purchase, but the list is growing shorter!
 
I finally got the chance on Saturday to go to a store two hours away from my home and test-drive the two mics that I was seriously considering: the AKG C214 and Electro-Voice RE320. I took the others off my list, because I do agree with GRC's observation that "it's kind of like a businessman making sure he joins the right country club when he moves into a new town." Impressing my customers/clients may not be my end goal, but I would agree that using equipment with name recognition does make it easier for a potential customer to know what to expect out of your work.

We hooked the two mics into a Focusrite preamp connected into an iMac running a DAW program that I had never seen before (not GarageBand or Logic Pro). I first demoed the RE320. I am glad that surfdude mentioned it because that may be the best deal Electro-Voice has going right now. Using the standard "flat" EQ switch option, the lows were warm and full and the highs were silky without overemphasis. It had a very well-balanced sound for spoken-word use. I did not test the "kick drum" setting, though I've read a couple of radio people who say they like that setting because it creates a beefier sound. I didn't use it with a pop filter or windscreen, and unlike some reviews I read which said that it didn't need one, I think that it does. I ran it through my regular plosive test ("Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers"), and while there were plosives they were also controlled and could be easily avoided with the most basic of pop filters.

Next was the C214. I got the impression that it would be an excellent mic for music vocals, female voice-overs or narration. That mic is HOT and the sound is quite bright, perhaps brighter than any other mic I've ever used out of the box. As such, it picked up a tremendous amount of room tone, so you'd want to use that type of mic in a well-treated studio setting. Compared to the most basic of condensers that I've used (the AT2020), the C214 had a sound that seemed delicate if not downright fragile. Needless to say this is not a mic for beginners. On the other hand, I'm a broadcaster first and we have a tendency to belt things out, so maybe it's me! I liked the idea of the C214 because I do enjoy a nice airy sound, but it seems like it would be better to save up and get the C414 instead for its adjustable pickup pattern and high-pass filter options.

So, after endless days of reading, making lists and after having the opportunity to test my finalists, I'm picking the Electro-Voice RE320. I'm getting a couple of quotes on the mic first to find the lowest price, but hopefully in a couple of days we'll have everything set up and kicking.

I also want to say thanks to everyone who replied and shared thoughts and opinions on this topic. This is something that obviously gets discussed and debated endlessly here, so I was grateful to have access to so many diverse views on my particular situation.
 
Good for you for testing the mics. You can never go wrong with an RE20 or RE320. They travel well, too.
The RE320 has a more condenser-like sound than the RE20, without picking up too much room noise.

I think everyone sells them for $299. EV doesn't let retailers discount.

Enjoy it when you get it!
 
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