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Afternoon replacement for Russ?

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AliceTheCook

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Let's continue this part of the thread. Infinity would be completely stupid to put a syndicated show on from 3-7 if RM goes to mornings. There's momentum there, and many people are already used to tuning into SOMETHING on KLLI at that time. A boring, non-local syndie show will only encourage the strong male listenership to go back to The Ticket. Moving P&K would only be a cop-out, and won't save the timeslot. The station should consider having Russ "anoint" someone as his afternoon successor (I'm sure that'd go over like a lead balloon if it were, say, DAN LEWIS???) Or maybe split up the pair and put Russ in mornings and JD Ryan in afternoons. Sure, Russ would have to break in a new "friend", but JD could probably keep the momentum going and save the afternoon ratings for KLLI. I see no reason to piss away that timeslot, especially considering how weak the rest of KLLI's schedule is.

But I have a strong feeling that Infinity will have KLLI play a tape-delay of Adam Carolla or one of their other Howard-substitutes from elsewhere, and let that fill the 3-7 slot. I just don't think Infinity will cough up the money for a local person to take that slot...they're still only concerned with cutting the fat and pumping up (perceived) stockholder value.
 
Alice.

KLLI would probably have gone to a talk morning/music rest of the day format a long time ago if the station wasn't locked into two very strong anchors (stern & russ). Now that Stern is leaving and say Russ moves to AM drive, the station will probably adopt some kind of rock format. Most likely an Eagle type format. Think about it.. it makes all the sense in the world. Those talk shows require a lot of bodies and financial commitments. The station could do music from 10a-6a with the amount of money they spend on P&K.

The void of a good rock station in Dallas leaves this door wide open.
 
> Alice.
>
> KLLI would probably have gone to a talk morning/music rest
> of the day format a long time ago if the station wasn't
> locked into two very strong anchors (stern & russ). Now
> that Stern is leaving and say Russ moves to AM drive, the
> station will probably adopt some kind of rock format. Most
> likely an Eagle type format. Think about it.. it makes all
> the sense in the world. Those talk shows require a lot of
> bodies and financial commitments. The station could do
> music from 10a-6a with the amount of money they spend on
> P&K.
>
> The void of a good rock station in Dallas leaves this door
> wide open.
>


I think it'd be a mistake to take Russ to the a.m. . Other than LMAO at watching Russ beat the hell out of Kraddick, I think Russ has more to lose than gain from moving from his afternoon spot. I already have my favorite morning stuff to listen to as I drive to work. Once I get to work, I can't listen any longer. But I listen to Russ on the way home and continue to listen once I'm there, because I can. It just seems to me that the best thing is to not fix it if it ain't broke. He's the king as he sits. Why take a gamble on something unknown? Stick some other syndicated show in the morning slot and leave Russ where he is.
 
> If Russ did go to mornings who would his competition be?
> The Morning Edge? Bo & Jim?


I hear Mr. Murrow will take over afternoons only after he submit's a demo.
>
 
> Let's continue this part of the thread. Infinity would be
> completely stupid to put a syndicated show on from 3-7 if RM
> goes to mornings. There's momentum there, and many people
> are already used to tuning into SOMETHING on KLLI at that
> time. A boring, non-local syndie show will only encourage
> the strong male listenership to go back to The Ticket.
> Moving P&K would only be a cop-out, and won't save the
> timeslot. The station should consider having Russ "anoint"
> someone as his afternoon successor (I'm sure that'd go over
> like a lead balloon if it were, say, DAN LEWIS???) Or maybe
> split up the pair and put Russ in mornings and JD Ryan in
> afternoons. Sure, Russ would have to break in a new
> "friend", but JD could probably keep the momentum going and
> save the afternoon ratings for KLLI. I see no reason to
> piss away that timeslot, especially considering how weak the
> rest of KLLI's schedule is.
>
> But I have a strong feeling that Infinity will have KLLI
> play a tape-delay of Adam Carolla or one of their other
> Howard-substitutes from elsewhere, and let that fill the 3-7
> slot. I just don't think Infinity will cough up the money
> for a local person to take that slot...they're still only
> concerned with cutting the fat and pumping up (perceived)
> stockholder value.
>
Just the suggestion that it would be viable to split Russ and JD up shows that you have little or no concept of what makes that show work. A good 90% of the show is based on the bond the two of them share. Take that away and you have very little to carry them through the daypart. Granted, Russ was able to make the show work when it was at KEGL. But that was on a music station and it didn't require the continuous on air banter that this one does.
Think about it Cookie. How much of the show consists of Russ picking on JD, his kids and his relationship with Joy? JD's sexual diviations? Russ' dating life? Their past adventures? They have worked together off and on for twenty years or more. What you suggest is pure drivel.
 
> If Russ did go to mornings who would his competition be?
> The Morning Edge? Bo & Jim?
>

I'm not saying that anyone would be better than Russ on Mornings, I'm saying that a lot of people already have their mornings lined up, and there's not as much time for folks to listen as there is in the afternoon slot. I, personally, would rather him stay on in the afternoons because that way I can hear most of the show, if he were on in the mornings, I'd get, maybe a half hour. I think there'd be a lot of people in the same boat. So, he may be #1 in the mornings but the sheer numbers would be lower and then you lose the massive afternoon audience to boot. He should stay where he has built his kingdom. There's been more than a few shows that crashed or dropped off after a big time slot move. Russ is the king of the afternoon drive. He ought to stay there
 
> If Russ did go to mornings who would his competition be?
> The Morning Edge? Bo & Jim?
>

Dude, what is his competition now?? Hannity? KTCK? I mean cumon. Seriously. The fact is, it doesnt matter where he is, he will be #1.
 
> > If Russ did go to mornings who would his competition be?
> > The Morning Edge? Bo & Jim?
>
>
> I hear Mr. Murrow will take over afternoons only after he
> submit's a demo.
> >
>
I luv this guy he hsa nothing to say... LIVE IT UP BIG GUY YOUR 15 MIN. OF FAME IS UP!\

I just coudle not help myself...

Now back to the business in hand I think KllI is holding a trump (your fired) Card. It is going to be mind blowing. May they will put Adam after Russ and give P/K the 3 to 7 shift. Who know I can't wait to see what happens....

HOW BOUT THOSE COWBOY'S hehehe


Peace <P ID="signature">______________
Sean Nizzle
The Sean Nizzle Show.</P>
 
You're absolutely right, Absolute (or is this Russ?) I do have no concept of what makes that show work. I don't listen to it. I'm only interested because this could cause another sorely-needed shakeup in the DFW radio landscape. But I'm amazed that the Russ fans on here haven't attacked you for saying that there'd be very little left if Russ and JD didn't have each other to play off of.

Sure, I more than understand the comraderie concept, and Russ does need a "foil" or a "mark" to make his show work (ala Howard with Jackie/Fred/Robin, etc.) But knowing how Infinity has made quick, ill-thought, inpulsive decisions in the past, I could definitely see them splitting the two of them up for the sake of saving the afternoon slot---unless you can name me a couple of others who could pick up the slack there and take over 3-7 seamlessly. No one comes to my mind offhand.

I agree with the poster who said to make the rest of the dayparts into an active rock format. The station got rave reviews from the Doc-programmed weekend music they once played. This could solve two problems at the station--get rid of the dead weight (P&K and the syndie shows) and bring an active rocker back to town without Infinity sacrificing an entire station to do it. KEGL, in their earliest days, played a 3-hr talk show in early afternoons ("Relationships" with Jim White, plus Russ doing a late-night talk show on Sundays later on) and kept a pop/rock format the rest of the day. The concept isn't new, just a little odd since block programming is usually only relegated to small town radio nowadays.

> Just the suggestion that it would be viable to split Russ
> and JD up shows that you have little or no concept of what
> makes that show work. A good 90% of the show is based on
> the bond the two of them share. Take that away and you have
> very little to carry them through the daypart. Granted,
> Russ was able to make the show work when it was at KEGL.
> But that was on a music station and it didn't require the
> continuous on air banter that this one does.
> Think about it Cookie. How much of the show consists of
> Russ picking on JD, his kids and his relationship with Joy?
> JD's sexual diviations? Russ' dating life? Their past
> adventures? They have worked together off and on for twenty
> years or more. What you suggest is pure drivel.
>
 
> > If Russ did go to mornings who would his competition be?
> > The Morning Edge? Bo & Jim?
>
>
> I hear Mr. Murrow will take over afternoons only after he
> submit's a demo.
> >
DUDE. I hear you are having a hard time trying to find a job in broadcasting. Could it be your uplifting and shining personality? Join a cruise line. I am sure you could get a job as a ship's anchor. The weight of your deflated ego makes you highly qualified.
 
Sorry Alice. You actually put up a good topic for conversation, but your posting caught me in a bad mood. I normally don't flame others that post on the board.

So let's run with your argument.

I think the reason the Russites didn't jump me is because as followers of the RMS, they may realize that he doesn't let just anyone get close to him. There have only been a few "inner-circle" types since he took over mornings after HS. Brad Baxter, Valerie DeOre (sp?), Dan Lewis and JD Ryan. Those were all people picked by Russ to be his staff. The one time management tried to force someone on him, the show suffered. I started listening to him during the early KEGL days, and it's been pretty clear that Russ does not play well with others.
Right now there is a pretty good mix of people on the show, so I don't think Russ would allow any kind of shake-up in personnel. I think over the last 2 or 3 years there have been enough of those for him.
And don't you think that his move to mornings would be enough of a shake-up?
Imagine being on a show that's held it's spot comfortably for years in mornings, and then suddenly an 800 pound gorilla drops in and sets up camp.
I'd be willing to bet that would be enough to make quite a few people rethink their morning strategies.

The most damaging quick, thoughtless and impulsive Infinity decision would be to move Dan & Tasos into a daily slot. They are far from being ready, and I don't know that they ever could be with Tasos in the picture. I still maintain that Dan could do a better show if he dumped that guy and found a co-host that can string two thoughts together.

Now here's the thing that will get me attacked.
Ready? I'm not sure that I can go along with Pugs and Kelly getting the axe.
Granted, their show isn't anything to write home about. But there have been improvements since Gavin came to the station, and I think that with some restructuring they could be even better. I agree that Pug's voice is grating and Kelly has to be one of the three stupidest functioning vegetables on the face of the earth. But they do have some merit. Mainly, I'm willing to bet that they work faily cheap, but manage to make it up in appearance fees. Russ and his people barely go anywhere and there has to be a live, local show to sell. I've been to a couple of their appearances and they really do pack them in. Advertisers must love them. And since radio is still a business, when you come down to it, a cheap show that makes a bunch of cash is worth it's weight in gold.



> You're absolutely right, Absolute (or is this Russ?) I do
> have no concept of what makes that show work. I don't
> listen to it. I'm only interested because this could cause
> another sorely-needed shakeup in the DFW radio landscape.
> But I'm amazed that the Russ fans on here haven't attacked
> you for saying that there'd be very little left if Russ and
> JD didn't have each other to play off of.
>
> Sure, I more than understand the comraderie concept, and
> Russ does need a "foil" or a "mark" to make his show work
> (ala Howard with Jackie/Fred/Robin, etc.) But knowing how
> Infinity has made quick, ill-thought, inpulsive decisions in
> the past, I could definitely see them splitting the two of
> them up for the sake of saving the afternoon slot---unless
> you can name me a couple of others who could pick up the
> slack there and take over 3-7 seamlessly. No one comes to
> my mind offhand.
>
> I agree with the poster who said to make the rest of the
> dayparts into an active rock format. The station got rave
> reviews from the Doc-programmed weekend music they once
> played. This could solve two problems at the station--get
> rid of the dead weight (P&K and the syndie shows) and bring
> an active rocker back to town without Infinity sacrificing
> an entire station to do it. KEGL, in their earliest days,
> played a 3-hr talk show in early afternoons ("Relationships"
> with Jim White, plus Russ doing a late-night talk show on
> Sundays later on) and kept a pop/rock format the rest of the
> day. The concept isn't new, just a little odd since block
> programming is usually only relegated to small town radio
> nowadays.
>
 
>
> I hear Mr. Murrow will take over afternoons only after he
> submit's a demo.
> >
>

Let's hear yours first.
 
Excelent points, AbTru... and I must agree with you - though I don't want to - about P&K... Especially considering that they do work comparatively cheap. As much money as the RMS is rumored to be offered, Infinity would have a hard time doing worse when it comes to numbers... both ratings and dollars.

I whole-heartedly agree with you about Dan & Anastasios... I think there's potential, but it is nowhere near refined enough to handle daily.<P ID="signature">______________
"Is all that we see or seem
But a dream within a dream?"
Edgar Allen Poe</P>
 
Keep in mind that the RMS was able to do something no one else thought possible... he was able to get ratings post-Stern. He also had ratings pre-Stern on KLLI.

My prediction is that the RMS will see a bit of a drop in TSL, but that the numbers will be better than expected. I see KDGE and KDBN losing quite a few listeners to the RMS.<P ID="signature">______________
"Is all that we see or seem
But a dream within a dream?"
Edgar Allen Poe</P>
 
> > > If Russ did go to mornings who would his competition be?
>
> > > The Morning Edge? Bo & Jim?
> >
> >
> > I hear Mr. Murrow will take over afternoons only after he
> > submit's a demo.
> > >
> DUDE. I hear you are having a hard time trying to find a job
> in broadcasting. Could it be your uplifting and shining
> personality? Join a cruise line. I am sure you could get a
> job as a ship's anchor. The weight of your deflated ego
> makes you highly qualified.

FYI....I work at Infinity in promotions and from what others have told me about your writing style you seem to be the infamous one who slams Kurt Johnson and Russ martian er Martin :)
>
 
> > > > If Russ did go to mornings who would his competition
> be?
> >
> > > > The Morning Edge? Bo & Jim?
> > >
> > >
> > > I hear Mr. Murrow will take over afternoons only after
> he
> > > submit's a demo.
> > > >
> > DUDE. I hear you are having a hard time trying to find a
> job
> > in broadcasting. Could it be your uplifting and shining
> > personality? Join a cruise line. I am sure you could get a
>
> > job as a ship's anchor. The weight of your deflated ego
> > makes you highly qualified.
>
> FYI....I work at Infinity in promotions and from what others
> have told me about your writing style you seem to be the
> infamous one who slams Kurt Johnson and Russ martian er
> Martin :)
> >
>
DUDE. There you go again. You don't work in promotions. You have been trying to "kiss up" to Kirk in hopes of landing a gig at KVIL. They neeed help true,but Smokey is not that desperate. They don't want a former Ranch Hand. KJ is laughing at you.
 
> > > > > If Russ did go to mornings who would his competition
>
> > be?
> > >
> > > > > The Morning Edge? Bo & Jim?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I hear Mr. Murrow will take over afternoons only after
>
> > he
> > > > submit's a demo.
> > > > >
> > > DUDE. I hear you are having a hard time trying to find a
>
> > job
> > > in broadcasting. Could it be your uplifting and shining
> > > personality? Join a cruise line. I am sure you could get
> a
> >
> > > job as a ship's anchor. The weight of your deflated ego
> > > makes you highly qualified.
> >
> > FYI....I work at Infinity in promotions and from what
> others
> > have told me about your writing style you seem to be the
> > infamous one who slams Kurt Johnson and Russ martian er
> > Martin :)
> > >
> >
> DUDE. There you go again. You don't work in promotions. You
> have been trying to "kiss up" to Kirk in hopes of landing a
> gig at KVIL. They neeed help true,but Smokey is not that
> desperate. They don't want a former Ranch Hand. KJ is
> laughing at you.

Boy you really ARE on crack. You must have gotten canned or turned down on the ranch. Glad you live for my latest post though. Better take a bath, it's been 5 day's since you been in the shower.
>
 
> > > > > If Russ did go to mornings who would his competition
>
> > be?
> > >
> > > > > The Morning Edge? Bo & Jim?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I hear Mr. Murrow will take over afternoons only after
>
> > he
> > > > submit's a demo.
> > > > >
> > > DUDE. I hear you are having a hard time trying to find a
>
> > job
> > > in broadcasting. Could it be your uplifting and shining
> > > personality? Join a cruise line. I am sure you could get
> a
> >
> > > job as a ship's anchor. The weight of your deflated ego
> > > makes you highly qualified.
> >
> > FYI....I work at Infinity in promotions and from what
> others
> > have told me about your writing style you seem to be the
> > infamous one who slams Kurt Johnson and Russ martian er
> > Martin :)
> > >
> >
> DUDE. There you go again. You don't work in promotions. You
> have been trying to "kiss up" to Kirk in hopes of landing a
> gig at KVIL. They neeed help true,but Smokey is not that
> desperate. They don't want a former Ranch Hand. KJ is
> laughing at you.
>

BTW...how do you know Kurt is laffing at me. Do you work close by with someone close to him? Hummm
 
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