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Air America / 1270

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shawnaga

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I remember a month or two back there was talk of 1270 going over to Air America.

Whatever happened with that? There's no mention of Buffalo listed on AA's affiliate page.
 
> I remember a month or two back there was talk of 1270 going
> over to Air America.
>
> Whatever happened with that? There's no mention of Buffalo
> listed on AA's affiliate page.

It appeared to be premature. After one of 1270's brokered program buyers contacted AAR (after learning about it right on this board), the AAR folks removed the station from their "coming soon" banner.

There's been no word since.

-OA<P ID="signature">______________
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> > I remember a month or two back there was talk of 1270
> going
> > over to Air America.
> >
> > Whatever happened with that? There's no mention of
> Buffalo
> > listed on AA's affiliate page.
>
> It appeared to be premature. After one of 1270's brokered
> program buyers contacted AAR (after learning about it right
> on this board), the AAR folks removed the station from their
> "coming soon" banner.
>
> There's been no word since.
>
> -OA
>
<font face="times new roman" size="3" color="660033">
Somethin' fishy goin' on here.

A poster with one post to his/her name, registered 1/31/06 asks a loaded question. Makes me think, "hmmmmm, set-up!"

As OA notes, "one of 1270's brokered ... buyers contacted AAR."

Could it be the "brokered program buyers" ("SECOND PARTY") didn't know what may have been going on? That perhaps, AAR had a contract with another broker ("THIRD PARTY") and THIRD PARTY didn't tell AAR to keep the lid on the deal until all the T's were crossed?

Could it be that AAR jumped the gun and did a major "oooops!" when "SECOND PARTY" inquired as to WHLD's listing on the AAR website.

Yessir.

"There's something happening here... what it is ain't exactly clear..."</font>
<hr>
Ain't intrigue fun, boys 'n girls?
 
> "There's something happening here... what it is ain't
> exactly clear..."
>
> Ain't intrigue fun, boys 'n girls?
>

nothing intriguing about my question... I generally post at The Southern Ontario/WNY Radio-TV Forum at http://members2.boardhost.com/scrapbook. I live in the Toronto area, and you'll find that I've been involved with that board for, well, years.

Just figured that I'd ask Buffalo people a question they could probably better answer than asking it there.

Kind regards,

Brent Taylor
[email protected]
 
> Just figured that I'd ask Buffalo people a question.
> Kind regards,
>
> Brent Taylor
> [email protected]
>
He's telling the truth folks. Good posting, and welcome to the Buffalo/Rochester board.
Thank-you for posting here.
Feel free to also visit the Toronto and Canada radio info boards to discuss Toronto and Canada related topics too. Your input is gold, but if, by chance, you do plan on adding to the Toronto Jack Chat...you may want to visit the VH board...someone is already encouraging input there instead of the Toronto board...

Links:

Toronto board: http://www.radio-info.com/mods/posts?Board=toronto

Canada board: http://www.radio-info.com/mods/posts?Board=canada

Variety hits board: http://www.radio-info.com/mods/posts?Board=variety

And ofcorse...indeed feel more than free to post your Buffalo/Rochester related topics here any time.
Sorry for the comments people are making regarding your posting, but there's been some strange things going on here before.
Thank-you also for helping keep the credibility of this board in good shape. (along with many others who already were...)
<P ID="signature">______________
"If you never say NO, How much is your YES worth?"
</P>
 
> > Just figured that I'd ask Buffalo people a question.
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Brent Taylor
> > [email protected]
> >
> He's telling the truth folks. Good posting, and welcome to
> the Buffalo/Rochester board.
> Thank-you for posting here.
> Feel free to also visit the Toronto and Canada radio info
> boards to discuss Toronto and Canada related topics too.
> Your input is gold, but if, by chance, you do plan on
> adding to the Toronto Jack Chat...you may want to visit the
> VH board...someone is already encouraging input there
> instead of the Toronto board...
>
> Links:
>
> Toronto board:
> http://www.radio-info.com/mods/posts?Board=toronto
>
> Canada board:
> http://www.radio-info.com/mods/posts?Board=canada
>
> Variety hits board:
> http://www.radio-info.com/mods/posts?Board=variety
>
> And ofcorse...indeed feel more than free to post your
> Buffalo/Rochester related topics here any time.
> Sorry for the comments people are making regarding your
> posting, but there's been some strange things going on here
> before.
> Thank-you also for helping keep the credibility of this
> board in good shape. (along with many others who already
> were...)
>
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Thanks for the invitation to Toronto, but I find the topics often uninspiring. Yes, I check it and have on occasion posted there, but I tend NOT to read the "hi tek posts cuz ur spelling, sentnce n wrd construxun is maddning." To a traditionalist like me, it's nonsense.

Additionally, I'm not interested in reading about dance, hip-hop and CanCon CHR. Nothin' personal. I don't read Soldier Of Fortune, either. Conversely, I don't expect too many posters from the Toronto board to find interest in some of the minutia discussed herein. (I mean really, do you guys care as much about discussing WYSL, Avon as much as WE do? Because we DO.)

I do listen to Canadian stations for the "international point of view" and I like CanCon (believe it or not, I'm listening to Blue Rodeo's "Diamond Mine" as I post this.) Furthermore, if my crew and I are working in the northtowns, we often listen to Q-107 or CFNY.

I'm not ripping your views or your 'tude... I'm simply stating for the record what forums (fora) I like to read and WHY I don't enjoy reading others. And don't get me wrong, I enjoy a good scrum, which is why I also read and post of the Syracuse-Utica board, one of the most volatile boards on site.

Here, I find reading articulate opinions and views from guys like Roxalot, Fybush, Giardina, Old Akronite, Debaser, Savage, Bob Smith, PickleReport, MidnightSkulker and even Element9 to be informative and stimulating.</font>
 
> Thanks for the invitation to Toronto, but I find the topics
> often uninspiring. Yes, I check it and have on occasion
> posted there, but I tend NOT to read the "hi tek posts cuz
> ur spelling, sentnce n wrd construxun is maddning." To a
> traditionalist like me, it's nonsense.
>
> Additionally, I'm not interested in reading about dance,
> hip-hop and CanCon CHR. Nothin' personal. I don't read
> Soldier Of Fortune, either. Conversely, I don't expect too
> many posters from the Toronto board to find interest in some
> of the minutia discussed herein. (I mean really, do you guys
> care as much about discussing WYSL, Avon as much as WE do?
> Because we DO.)
>
> I do listen to Canadian stations for the "international
> point of view" and I like CanCon (believe it or not, I'm
> listening to Blue Rodeo's "Diamond Mine" as I post this.)
> Furthermore, if my crew and I are working in the northtowns,
> we often listen to Q-107 or CFNY.
>
> I'm not ripping your views or your 'tude... I'm simply
> stating for the record what forums (fora) I like to read and
> WHY I don't enjoy reading others. And don't get me wrong, I
> enjoy a good scrum, which is why I also read and post of the
> Syracuse-Utica board, one of the most volatile boards on
> site.
>
> Here, I find reading articulate opinions and views from guys
> like Roxalot, Fybush, Giardina, Old Akronite, Debaser,
> Savage, Bob Smith, PickleReport, MidnightSkulker and even
> Element9 to be informative and stimulating.

--> I dont think anyone really cares if you read the Canandian boards or not, but it does seem to me you're trying to dodge the issue from your "conspiracy" theory about AA radio and an innocent question from Shawnaga with follow-up from Old Akronite. Who knows why there was a minor mixup between 1270 and AA radio. Who cares. Just don't jump the gun and start up rumors and gossip unless you know the whole scoop. Now, go stand in the corner. :)
 
> ur spelling, sentnce n wrd construxun is maddning." To a
> traditionalist like me, it's nonsense.
That's YOUR not ur and word not wrd...this isn't MSN Messenger.
None of that is going on on the Toronto or Canada boards.
You must have a good imagination.
Blame Quebec. Canada decided to spell center Centre to make them happy.
In french center is actually pronounced "Son tre" with a slight roll of the tongue on the "tre" part. I don't like spelling it centre any more than you do.

Color colour is another story...drives me nuts too...why Canada needs an extra u, I have no idea.
I was merely inviting someone claiming to be from Toronto to this board...someone you aparantly know very little about and should back off.<P ID="signature">______________
"If you never say NO, How much is your YES worth?"
</P>
 
>> ur spelling, sentnce n wrd construxun is maddning." To a
>> traditionalist like me, it's nonsense.
>> That's YOUR not ur and word not wrd...this isn't MSN
>> Messenger.

>> None of that is going on on the Toronto or Canada boards.
>> You must have a good imagination.

<font face="times new roman" size="3" color=660033">
Excuse me. I've seen enough of it, especially from the nouveau auteurs on a number of boards, including Toronto, to know it's not my imagination.</font>

>> Blame Quebec. Canada decided to spell center Centre to make
>> them happy. In french center is actually pronounced "Son tre" with a
>> slight roll of the tongue on the "tre" part. I don't like
>> spelling it centre any more than you do.

<font face="times new roman" size="3" color=660033">
Blame no one... except those too lazy to check their spelling and take the time to write coherent English.</font>

> I was merely inviting someone claiming to be from Toronto to
> this board...someone you aparantly<sup>1</sup> know very little about
> and should back off.
>
<font face="times new roman" size="3" color=660033">Yezi, I was attempting to be polite, but (sic) aparantly<sup>1</sup> your spelling sucks. As does your grammar and syntax. Apparently you don't pay attention to these little things. It has nothing to do with la langue Francaise, center, centre; color, couleur ou colour.

I'm not the language police and god knows I've made my share of gaffes, but really, dude... when you post here, bring you "A" game. Ehh?

Faites attention à votre écriture, mon ami!
<hr>
Man!

One guy tells me to go to the corner, the other tells me to back off. It's like a freakin' hockey game. So here I am, in the penalty box serving five minutes for bruising a few egos.

Regarding WHLD and Air America? It'll be a nice little experiment if it ever happens. I'm no fan of WBEN, but if anybody has plans to take them on, they better have their act together because Entercom doesn't take kindly to poaching.

It takes lots of money, talented people and hard work to compete with an established station. Look at what's going on at The Lake, which targeted 97 Rock. Pfffft!

As to the assertion of "starting rumors," my initial post was based on what appeared in a full-blown <u>thread</u> on this board in early December.

My comments regarding WHLD in this thread comprise a hypothesis based on information and opinions presented in the December thread.

Hypothesis: "A concession made for the sake of argument." It has nothing to do with "starting rumors."

Yezi, you should know how <u>hypothesis</u> is used on this board.</font>
 
> Regarding WHLD and Air America? It'll be a nice little
> experiment if it ever happens. I'm no fan of WBEN, but if
> anybody has plans to take them on, they better have their
> act together because Entercom doesn't take kindly to
> poaching.

Thanks to Air America's blunder (listing WHLD on their web site as an affiliate), WBEN put itself in a better position to hold off the competition by hiring a guy like Ron Dobson. Even if addressing Dr. Laura's price tag and sagging product was a primary reason to hire Dobson, Tim Wenger has made a good move by taking away a potential hire for this new venture (assuming it materializes).

No matter how careful the planning may be in Buffalo, Air America at the national level has not been known for its sharp business skills.
 
I'm not the one putting rumour in a sentance here, that was someone else.

> Excuse me. I've seen enough of it, especially from the
> nouveau auteurs on a number of boards, including Toronto, to
> know it's not my imagination.

What's an auteurs? This isn't the amazing race, and it's the CN tower, NOT la tour CN in Toronto.
French is not the first language.
>
> >> Blame Quebec.

> Blame no one... except those too lazy to check their
> spelling and take the time to write coherent English.

THE ROGERS CENTRE is right next to the CN tower...not the Rogers Center.
If you insist it should be Center, not centre, I'm with you on that.
I still didn't spell that wrong though. Centre IS the correct spelling in Canada. (unfortunantly)

> when you post here, bring you
> "A" game. Ehh?

What the hell are you talking about? and YES IT IS BEEN not bin' so stuff it!
(although, respectfully, I do accept both without fuss)

It's also isn't, or aren't, not Aint or ain't...but let's not go there.

> Faites attention à votre écriture, mon ami!
Say that in english. Quit stereotyping Canadians. Just because Quebec speaks french, doesn't mean the rest of Canada has to.

Oh, by the way, if you ever do visit Toronto and see a sign on a door that says "Please Keep door close" please feel free to just stand there.
I'll see if I can get the attention of the owner of that door to fix the sign.
Adding the D would be smart!
You can actually enjoy the rest of your visit without alarming concercern that the door won't be "Close".
Gawd, I hate that missing d too eh...careful! The door is also wet paint by the way...(???? It is? I would have left the door open to dry properly, but anyway...)
<P ID="signature">______________
"If you never say NO, How much is your YES worth?"
</P>
 
> > Regarding WHLD and Air America? It'll be a nice little
> > experiment if it ever happens. I'm no fan of WBEN, but if
> > anybody has plans to take them on, they better have their
> > act together because Entercom doesn't take kindly to
> > poaching.
>
> Thanks to Air America's blunder (listing WHLD on their web
> site as an affiliate), WBEN put itself in a better position
> to hold off the competition by hiring a guy like Ron Dobson.
> Even if addressing Dr. Laura's price tag and sagging
> product was a primary reason to hire Dobson, Tim Wenger has
> made a good move by taking away a potential hire for this
> new venture (assuming it materializes).
>
> No matter how careful the planning may be in Buffalo, Air
> America at the national level has not been known for its
> sharp business skills.
>

Skulker! Thanks for a well-reasoned, on-topic articulate post. You're quite right; WBEN adding Dobson goes a long way to minimizing the "threat" of Air America, whether it shows up on 1270, 1520, 1440 or the frequency of their choice. Going up against Entercom with AAR is a daunting task.
 
Fatuous

You sir, are not worth the time to fence with, Air America, radio or otherwise. Subtlety, nuance, logic and reason are lost on you.

I'm certainly no Hemingway, in fact, I'm quite plebeian, but writing (and posting on these boards) is an art, requiring skill, patience and practice. You can improve your skills by reading other literature. I suggest you begin with "My Weekly Reader" and progress to USA Today. Someday, you'll be able to pick up The Buffalo News and read Jeff Simon's bloviated screeds and make sense of them.

See. That's nuance. A touch of sarcasm. Nothing personal. Jeff Simon's actually a fine writer, but he persists in trying to impress people with his perspicacity.

Reading and responding to your posts is an exercise in exasperation. As far as I'm concerned, your posts are now consigned to Ignoristan. AMF!

BTW, don't try looking up Ignoristan in the Rand-McNally Atlas.
 
AAR(P)

> Going up against Entercom with AAR is a daunting task.

Going up against WGKT with AAR is a daunting task. The computer-in-a-closet is a LOT more entertaining.

And that's not necessarily praise for WGKT.
 
Re: AAR(P)

> > Going up against Entercom with AAR is a daunting task.
>
> Going up against WGKT with AAR is a daunting task. The
> computer-in-a-closet is a LOT more entertaining.
>
> And that's not necessarily praise for WGKT.
>

Well, too each his/her own. As a proud liberal progressive I find AAR quite entertaining. In most cities there is, at most, one full service station with a news dept and local/syndicated talk that gets decent to good ratings(though top heavy demographics) - most other AM stations run out of closet, as you put it. AAR provides a small audience but loyal audience at little cost...not bad for your average 1kw, high end of the dial AM with nothing lose. I don't have documentation on this, but I have heard AAR audiences skew lower. AAR has a definite cult following here in Rochester and would get the same in Buffalo.

Actually, WROC's non AAR Mary Miller show is my favorite - very funny stuff. Their other non AAR personality, Ed Schultz, also is great. ROC isn't doing any worse than they did with right wing talk. If they did a little promotion - maybe some small ads in the weekly alt newspaper and some AAR bumper stickers, more people might know about them.

AAR is up to 87 stations and growing. They will probably continue to grow as a satellite format of choice for downtrodden AM stations.
 
Re: Fatuous

Well Yikr, what a fine mess you've gotten yourself into.
Mike has a good point about spelling, but he should respect the fact that you at least know the difference between two, too, and to.
I also see that you know the difference between their there and they're, so there is hope for you yet bud.
Get a dictionary and read it some time. I trust you know I mean this as a friend.
 
Re: AAR(P)

I was just hoping, in asking, that there was some chance that AAR might grace the area - I'm all for more talk, and less Dr.Laura/Rush/George Noori/All the other usual suspects.

1270 doesn't have that great a signal up here, but it's better than nothing. Heck, 1520 gets splattered by 1540 CHIN up here, but if you orient the radio the right way, it's sorta listenable. And you can even listen to Joey in the middle of the night.

Though nothing, in my opinion, beats Ramblin' Lou.

Given that we can't even pick up WECK up here, can someone tell me what happened there? Just curious.




> Well, too each his/her own. As a proud liberal progressive
> I find AAR quite entertaining. In most cities there is, at
> most, one full service station with a news dept and
> local/syndicated talk that gets decent to good
> ratings(though top heavy demographics) - most other AM
> stations run out of closet, as you put it. AAR provides a
> small audience but loyal audience at little cost...not bad
> for your average 1kw, high end of the dial AM with nothing
> lose. I don't have documentation on this, but I have heard
> AAR audiences skew lower. AAR has a definite cult following
> here in Rochester and would get the same in Buffalo.
>
> Actually, WROC's non AAR Mary Miller show is my favorite -
> very funny stuff. Their other non AAR personality, Ed
> Schultz, also is great. ROC isn't doing any worse than they
> did with right wing talk. If they did a little promotion -
> maybe some small ads in the weekly alt newspaper and some
> AAR bumper stickers, more people might know about them.
>
> AAR is up to 87 stations and growing. They will probably
> continue to grow as a satellite format of choice for
> downtrodden AM stations.
>
 
Re: Fatuous

When the landlord knocks on my door and says "I'd like to know a new word please" instead of "Your rent is due" I'll take you more seriously. (sometimes I just love being so "Unreal"...lol! thanks for the instigation)

The problem is

1) Almost 2 years of my posting, and only now Mike R., you choose to whine.

2) People can still post. I don't buy that no one is posting because I post on the Toronto and Canada boards.
People still post here.

Sounds like your real issue is with the very idea that I chose a creative name for posting.
That indeed was a deliberate act, with a long story behind it...and yes, you could do better to appreciate the good points, like the very fact that I at least know the difference between Your, and You're. (to use another example that hasn't already come to my defence...Thanks radio_friend...I'll try to spell better one of theese days...lol!) <P ID="signature">______________
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