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I know its just 12+ but I'm still surprised at the showing by KPTK. My question
is, how high will it go?
is, how high will it go?
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> I know its just 12+ but I'm still surprised at the showing
> by KPTK. My question
> is, how high will it go?
Looking at the latest Arbitron ratings (for whatever they're worth...)
KPTK will continue to get higher as the current administration's popularity gets lower. KTTH lost some too, even conservatives are getting disgusted with the current administration and want coherent answers, not double talk or more spin.
It's just a sign of the times...RANDI RHODES RULES!!!
Too much interference from the top is ruining The Buzz. Filling BJ's slot with syndicated crap is going to be the death of KQBZ. Personally, I think that may be the goal. Entercom has been wanting a music format on 100.7 for a long time...
I'm hoping either KPLZ or KLSY will switch. This little battle between Marc Kaye and Kent Phillips is killing both stations.
KNDD is sinking, largely because of tha faux alternative track "Sugar, We're Going Down" Fall Out Boy, which KNDD played into the ground this year.
And what would Jesus do about KCMS? Where's KCIS?, KGNW?, KKOL? Or KLFE? Start praying...hard....
>
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> by KPTK. My question
> is, how high will it go?
Looking at the latest Arbitron ratings (for whatever they're worth...)
KPTK will continue to get higher as the current administration's popularity gets lower. KTTH lost some too, even conservatives are getting disgusted with the current administration and want coherent answers, not double talk or more spin.
It's just a sign of the times...RANDI RHODES RULES!!!
Too much interference from the top is ruining The Buzz. Filling BJ's slot with syndicated crap is going to be the death of KQBZ. Personally, I think that may be the goal. Entercom has been wanting a music format on 100.7 for a long time...
I'm hoping either KPLZ or KLSY will switch. This little battle between Marc Kaye and Kent Phillips is killing both stations.
KNDD is sinking, largely because of tha faux alternative track "Sugar, We're Going Down" Fall Out Boy, which KNDD played into the ground this year.
And what would Jesus do about KCMS? Where's KCIS?, KGNW?, KKOL? Or KLFE? Start praying...hard....
>
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OttoM
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> I'm hoping either KPLZ or KLSY will switch. This little
> battle between Marc Kaye and Kent Phillips is killing both
> stations.
Better lay off that wacky tobakky, Lar. It's really clouding your judgement.
KPLZ change formats? Only if Gene Autry comes back from the great ranch in the sky.
> battle between Marc Kaye and Kent Phillips is killing both
> stations.
Better lay off that wacky tobakky, Lar. It's really clouding your judgement.
KPLZ change formats? Only if Gene Autry comes back from the great ranch in the sky.
KPLZ
> > I'm hoping either KPLZ or KLSY will switch. This little
> > battle between Marc Kaye and Kent Phillips is killing both
>
> > stations.
>
> Better lay off that wacky tobakky, Lar. It's really clouding
> your judgement.
>
> KPLZ change formats? Only if Gene Autry comes back from the
> great ranch in the sky.
KPLZ has changed formats since it's beginnings in 1978 (from CHR to AC to CHR to AC again.) Only the call letters and frequency have stayed the same.
Maybe it's time for another swing back to CHR....
>
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> > I'm hoping either KPLZ or KLSY will switch. This little
> > battle between Marc Kaye and Kent Phillips is killing both
>
> > stations.
>
> Better lay off that wacky tobakky, Lar. It's really clouding
> your judgement.
>
> KPLZ change formats? Only if Gene Autry comes back from the
> great ranch in the sky.
KPLZ has changed formats since it's beginnings in 1978 (from CHR to AC to CHR to AC again.) Only the call letters and frequency have stayed the same.
Maybe it's time for another swing back to CHR....
>
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> KPLZ change formats? Only if Gene Autry comes back from the
> great ranch in the sky.
Oh please...(a Christmas wish)... let it be so... Wouldn't it be great to hear another station like KVI? The real KVI again? No Kirby, No Carlson, just the likes of Hardwick, Cliff Murphy and Jack Morton... Oh wait! I'm awake now! just dozed off there for a second... Sorry?
> great ranch in the sky.
Oh please...(a Christmas wish)... let it be so... Wouldn't it be great to hear another station like KVI? The real KVI again? No Kirby, No Carlson, just the likes of Hardwick, Cliff Murphy and Jack Morton... Oh wait! I'm awake now! just dozed off there for a second... Sorry?
Re: KPLZ
> KPLZ has changed formats since it's beginnings in 1978 (from
> CHR to AC to CHR to AC again.) Only the call letters and
> frequency have stayed the same.
> Maybe it's time for another swing back to CHR....
When it launched, it was the FM/kvi; leaning into CHR territory as an adult AC. Ironically, at the time, AM/kvi was a powerhouse in town. I always wondered what would have happened had the heritage stations at the time staked out some territory on FM and carried the audiences with them, evolving over time as fringes of the audience die off. In the end, nearly everyone jumped into the AC game on the FM dial and it took forever for Top-40 to land on FM (O'Shea spotted that hole a long time ago when KUBE was launched). What if KJR had been smart enough to establish a beachhead on FM --- what if full-service KVI actually DID become "the FM KVI" in the mid-70's. In both cases it would have changed the landscape to where we may never have seen a "KLASSY" or a "KUBE" launch because there would have been no "hole" for the formats as those two originally launched. Same story had KMPS launched with a vengence on FM at the time it launched on AM (Sept 1975); though in that case it probably would have only made KRPM think twice about their evolution.
Personally...I always thought the station really cooked as "K-PLUS" with the "hot hits" jingle imaging and so forth. Too bad the market at the time couldn't sustain all the players (KYYX had fallen, KUBE was launching, KNBQ was an also-ran, KING and KJR on their last breath, etc.).
> KPLZ has changed formats since it's beginnings in 1978 (from
> CHR to AC to CHR to AC again.) Only the call letters and
> frequency have stayed the same.
> Maybe it's time for another swing back to CHR....
When it launched, it was the FM/kvi; leaning into CHR territory as an adult AC. Ironically, at the time, AM/kvi was a powerhouse in town. I always wondered what would have happened had the heritage stations at the time staked out some territory on FM and carried the audiences with them, evolving over time as fringes of the audience die off. In the end, nearly everyone jumped into the AC game on the FM dial and it took forever for Top-40 to land on FM (O'Shea spotted that hole a long time ago when KUBE was launched). What if KJR had been smart enough to establish a beachhead on FM --- what if full-service KVI actually DID become "the FM KVI" in the mid-70's. In both cases it would have changed the landscape to where we may never have seen a "KLASSY" or a "KUBE" launch because there would have been no "hole" for the formats as those two originally launched. Same story had KMPS launched with a vengence on FM at the time it launched on AM (Sept 1975); though in that case it probably would have only made KRPM think twice about their evolution.
Personally...I always thought the station really cooked as "K-PLUS" with the "hot hits" jingle imaging and so forth. Too bad the market at the time couldn't sustain all the players (KYYX had fallen, KUBE was launching, KNBQ was an also-ran, KING and KJR on their last breath, etc.).
Re: KPLZ
> > KPLZ has changed formats since it's beginnings in 1978
> (from
> > CHR to AC to CHR to AC again.) Only the call letters and
> > frequency have stayed the same.
> > Maybe it's time for another swing back to CHR....
>
> When it launched, it was the FM/kvi; leaning into CHR
> territory as an adult AC. Ironically, at the time, AM/kvi
> was a powerhouse in town. I always wondered what would have
> happened had the heritage stations at the time staked out
> some territory on FM and carried the audiences with them,
> evolving over time as fringes of the audience die off. In
> the end, nearly everyone jumped into the AC game on the FM
> dial and it took forever for Top-40 to land on FM (O'Shea
> spotted that hole a long time ago when KUBE was launched).
> What if KJR had been smart enough to establish a beachhead
> on FM --- what if full-service KVI actually DID become "the
> FM KVI" in the mid-70's. In both cases it would have
> changed the landscape to where we may never have seen a
> "KLASSY" or a "KUBE" launch because there would have been no
> "hole" for the formats as those two originally launched.
> Same story had KMPS launched with a vengence on FM at the
> time it launched on AM (Sept 1975); though in that case it
> probably would have only made KRPM think twice about their
> evolution.
>
> Personally...I always thought the station really cooked as
> "K-PLUS" with the "hot hits" jingle imaging and so forth.
> Too bad the market at the time couldn't sustain all the
> players (KYYX had fallen, KUBE was launching, KNBQ was an
> also-ran, KING and KJR on their last breath, etc.).
KNBQ I think started the CHR format in the Northwest on FM as "Super Q" in early 1981 with KUBE following shortly after (KNBQ even ran spots highlighting this as stations like KUBE and KPLZ began taking over. KNBQ was all the rage with young people before KUBE even came into the picture.) The FM KVI was mostly disco that became K-Plus 101. Then, as AC "The Music Magazine" when the disco backlash hit. Then back to CHR in late 1983 as K-Plus FM, Z-101.5, then just "KPLZ" before becoming AC "Star 101.5" in 1994.
In the '80s, most of we would call "AC" today was CHR fodder (Gloria Estefan, Michael Bolton, etc...)
Northwest CHR stations of the '80s:
FM
89.5 KNHC (Not technically a CHR, but much of what they played first later became CHR hits nevertheless.)
90.9 KVTI (April 1988 - Present, picking up KNBQ's south end audience after 97.3 went oldies)
92.9 KISM (1984 - 1992)
93.3 KUBE (was mainstream CHR until August, 1991)
96.5 KYYX (until September 1982 and back again in early 1984 before giving up the ghost as they were playing stuff like Pat Benatar and other mainstream Top 40 acts. Much of the modern rock KYYX played was pretty much mainstream CHR by this time anyway, Duran Duran, The Fixx etc. Even Michael Jackson and "Weird" Al Yankovic was played...)
97.3 KNBQ (until March 1988)
101.5 KPLZ (1983 - 1994)
104.3 KNWR (a sleepy automated Bellingham CHR until October, 1989)
106.9 KHIT (July 4, 1984 - September 4, 1987)
AM
730 CKLG (until 1992 when it became Hot AC/Talk)
1410 CFUN (until September 1982)
>
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> > KPLZ has changed formats since it's beginnings in 1978
> (from
> > CHR to AC to CHR to AC again.) Only the call letters and
> > frequency have stayed the same.
> > Maybe it's time for another swing back to CHR....
>
> When it launched, it was the FM/kvi; leaning into CHR
> territory as an adult AC. Ironically, at the time, AM/kvi
> was a powerhouse in town. I always wondered what would have
> happened had the heritage stations at the time staked out
> some territory on FM and carried the audiences with them,
> evolving over time as fringes of the audience die off. In
> the end, nearly everyone jumped into the AC game on the FM
> dial and it took forever for Top-40 to land on FM (O'Shea
> spotted that hole a long time ago when KUBE was launched).
> What if KJR had been smart enough to establish a beachhead
> on FM --- what if full-service KVI actually DID become "the
> FM KVI" in the mid-70's. In both cases it would have
> changed the landscape to where we may never have seen a
> "KLASSY" or a "KUBE" launch because there would have been no
> "hole" for the formats as those two originally launched.
> Same story had KMPS launched with a vengence on FM at the
> time it launched on AM (Sept 1975); though in that case it
> probably would have only made KRPM think twice about their
> evolution.
>
> Personally...I always thought the station really cooked as
> "K-PLUS" with the "hot hits" jingle imaging and so forth.
> Too bad the market at the time couldn't sustain all the
> players (KYYX had fallen, KUBE was launching, KNBQ was an
> also-ran, KING and KJR on their last breath, etc.).
KNBQ I think started the CHR format in the Northwest on FM as "Super Q" in early 1981 with KUBE following shortly after (KNBQ even ran spots highlighting this as stations like KUBE and KPLZ began taking over. KNBQ was all the rage with young people before KUBE even came into the picture.) The FM KVI was mostly disco that became K-Plus 101. Then, as AC "The Music Magazine" when the disco backlash hit. Then back to CHR in late 1983 as K-Plus FM, Z-101.5, then just "KPLZ" before becoming AC "Star 101.5" in 1994.
In the '80s, most of we would call "AC" today was CHR fodder (Gloria Estefan, Michael Bolton, etc...)
Northwest CHR stations of the '80s:
FM
89.5 KNHC (Not technically a CHR, but much of what they played first later became CHR hits nevertheless.)
90.9 KVTI (April 1988 - Present, picking up KNBQ's south end audience after 97.3 went oldies)
92.9 KISM (1984 - 1992)
93.3 KUBE (was mainstream CHR until August, 1991)
96.5 KYYX (until September 1982 and back again in early 1984 before giving up the ghost as they were playing stuff like Pat Benatar and other mainstream Top 40 acts. Much of the modern rock KYYX played was pretty much mainstream CHR by this time anyway, Duran Duran, The Fixx etc. Even Michael Jackson and "Weird" Al Yankovic was played...)
97.3 KNBQ (until March 1988)
101.5 KPLZ (1983 - 1994)
104.3 KNWR (a sleepy automated Bellingham CHR until October, 1989)
106.9 KHIT (July 4, 1984 - September 4, 1987)
AM
730 CKLG (until 1992 when it became Hot AC/Talk)
1410 CFUN (until September 1982)
>
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Hardwick
> > KPLZ change formats? Only if Gene Autry comes back from
> the
> > great ranch in the sky.
>
> Oh please...(a Christmas wish)... let it be so... Wouldn't
> it be great to hear another station like KVI? The real KVI
> again? No Kirby, No Carlson, just the likes of Hardwick,
> Cliff Murphy and Jack Morton... Oh wait! I'm awake now!
> just dozed off there for a second... Sorry?
I knew Hardwick and he was always a constant source of inspiration. I still miss him. Back in 1985, he hosted "Softcast" on KXA, a program when he broadcast actual freeware computer programs over the radio that computer users recorded onto cassette (back when software programs rarely went over 720kb), perhaps the first downloading program of it's kind anywhere. In fact, the very first use of the term "download" I ever heard was on that show.
He was an innovative man far ahead of his time. If only he could see where computers have gone now....
>
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> > KPLZ change formats? Only if Gene Autry comes back from
> the
> > great ranch in the sky.
>
> Oh please...(a Christmas wish)... let it be so... Wouldn't
> it be great to hear another station like KVI? The real KVI
> again? No Kirby, No Carlson, just the likes of Hardwick,
> Cliff Murphy and Jack Morton... Oh wait! I'm awake now!
> just dozed off there for a second... Sorry?
I knew Hardwick and he was always a constant source of inspiration. I still miss him. Back in 1985, he hosted "Softcast" on KXA, a program when he broadcast actual freeware computer programs over the radio that computer users recorded onto cassette (back when software programs rarely went over 720kb), perhaps the first downloading program of it's kind anywhere. In fact, the very first use of the term "download" I ever heard was on that show.
He was an innovative man far ahead of his time. If only he could see where computers have gone now....
>
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Re: KNBQ (the first one)
> KNBQ I think started the CHR format in the Northwest on FM
> as "Super Q" in early 1981 with KUBE following shortly after
I had just left KNBQ before they took a stab at doing CHR for real. They were KTNT-FM for a long time, and then separated the identity with new calls (early 1970's, I believe). It was automated ... and when I was part of the mess, it was run by a rather interesting brain trust (still owned by the News Tribune, so they had some $$ behind them).
GM at the time was a sales person who hit a career high with that GM appointment. He brought in the best possible talent he could find as the PD (read "someone who would kiss his ???") -- specifically, the guy who used to be all-nite jock for KISW. That means the approach was very m-e-l-----l-----o-----w. No talking over the music, no upbeat presentation ... just dish out Top 40 music with an AOR attitude. Uh-huh. Very frustrating to have worked for some awesome radio stations and then be in the presence of complete dullness in a somewhat forced mentorship.
Meanwhile, they began thinking about taking the whole game seriously -- and built actual REAL studios which would house live jocks. That's about the time I got bagged (serious attitude problem ... go figure), and not too long after I left they turned the mother into a REAL radio station (with a new management regime, including eventually, Gary Bryan as PD and Jack Bankson as GM). Wish I had seen that future in the tea leaves; but at the time I couldn't muster enough respect for the moron we had as the PD to even go in there every day. I was young --- but already loaded with attitude. He called me in to "discipline me" one day .. and said I would have 2 weeks to come up with better attitude and that I had to show at least 50% improvement. I asked if I could simply achieve 50% with expectation I would have to kiss his ass using BOTH lips. At that point, my two week "opportunity" vanished immediately; but there was never any question that it was worth it.
Some talented people spent time at that facility & frequency. I was just sorry those guys weren't among them.
> KNBQ I think started the CHR format in the Northwest on FM
> as "Super Q" in early 1981 with KUBE following shortly after
I had just left KNBQ before they took a stab at doing CHR for real. They were KTNT-FM for a long time, and then separated the identity with new calls (early 1970's, I believe). It was automated ... and when I was part of the mess, it was run by a rather interesting brain trust (still owned by the News Tribune, so they had some $$ behind them).
GM at the time was a sales person who hit a career high with that GM appointment. He brought in the best possible talent he could find as the PD (read "someone who would kiss his ???") -- specifically, the guy who used to be all-nite jock for KISW. That means the approach was very m-e-l-----l-----o-----w. No talking over the music, no upbeat presentation ... just dish out Top 40 music with an AOR attitude. Uh-huh. Very frustrating to have worked for some awesome radio stations and then be in the presence of complete dullness in a somewhat forced mentorship.
Meanwhile, they began thinking about taking the whole game seriously -- and built actual REAL studios which would house live jocks. That's about the time I got bagged (serious attitude problem ... go figure), and not too long after I left they turned the mother into a REAL radio station (with a new management regime, including eventually, Gary Bryan as PD and Jack Bankson as GM). Wish I had seen that future in the tea leaves; but at the time I couldn't muster enough respect for the moron we had as the PD to even go in there every day. I was young --- but already loaded with attitude. He called me in to "discipline me" one day .. and said I would have 2 weeks to come up with better attitude and that I had to show at least 50% improvement. I asked if I could simply achieve 50% with expectation I would have to kiss his ass using BOTH lips. At that point, my two week "opportunity" vanished immediately; but there was never any question that it was worth it.
Some talented people spent time at that facility & frequency. I was just sorry those guys weren't among them.
>
>
> KPTK will continue to get higher as the current
> administration's popularity gets lower. KTTH lost some too,
> even conservatives are getting disgusted with the current
> administration and want coherent answers, not double talk or
> more spin.
>
> It's just a sign of the times...RANDI RHODES RULES!!!
WELL SAID, LARRY! I LOVE RANDI! AND STEPHANIE MILLER IS THE QUEEN OF THE MORNING NOW TOO. AT LEAST I HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE WHEN R&M GO AWAY!
> Too much interference from the top is ruining The Buzz.
> Filling BJ's slot with syndicated crap is going to be the
> death of KQBZ. Personally, I think that may be the goal.
> Entercom has been wanting a music format on 100.7 for a long
> time...
I HATE THE IDEA OF FM TALK GOING AWAY IN SEATTLE. THAT SAID, THIS STATION HAS SUCKED FOR A LONG TIME. THEY NEED TO WIDEN OUT THEIR PROSPECTIVE AUDIENCE BEYOND THE MULLET/CAMARO CROWD.
> I'm hoping either KPLZ or KLSY will switch. This little
> battle between Marc Kaye and Kent Phillips is killing both
> stations.
>
> KNDD is sinking, largely because of tha faux alternative
> track "Sugar, We're Going Down" Fall Out Boy, which KNDD
> played into the ground this year.
>
> And what would Jesus do about KCMS? Where's KCIS?, KGNW?,
> KKOL? Or KLFE? Start praying...hard....
>
>
> >
>
>
> KPTK will continue to get higher as the current
> administration's popularity gets lower. KTTH lost some too,
> even conservatives are getting disgusted with the current
> administration and want coherent answers, not double talk or
> more spin.
>
> It's just a sign of the times...RANDI RHODES RULES!!!
WELL SAID, LARRY! I LOVE RANDI! AND STEPHANIE MILLER IS THE QUEEN OF THE MORNING NOW TOO. AT LEAST I HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE WHEN R&M GO AWAY!
> Too much interference from the top is ruining The Buzz.
> Filling BJ's slot with syndicated crap is going to be the
> death of KQBZ. Personally, I think that may be the goal.
> Entercom has been wanting a music format on 100.7 for a long
> time...
I HATE THE IDEA OF FM TALK GOING AWAY IN SEATTLE. THAT SAID, THIS STATION HAS SUCKED FOR A LONG TIME. THEY NEED TO WIDEN OUT THEIR PROSPECTIVE AUDIENCE BEYOND THE MULLET/CAMARO CROWD.
> I'm hoping either KPLZ or KLSY will switch. This little
> battle between Marc Kaye and Kent Phillips is killing both
> stations.
>
> KNDD is sinking, largely because of tha faux alternative
> track "Sugar, We're Going Down" Fall Out Boy, which KNDD
> played into the ground this year.
>
> And what would Jesus do about KCMS? Where's KCIS?, KGNW?,
> KKOL? Or KLFE? Start praying...hard....
>
>
> >
>
> I know its just 12+ but I'm still surprised at the showing
> by KPTK. My question
> is, how high will it go?
>
It's a different story 25-54...KQBZ is over a full share higher than KPTK. I think the station has potential but it still has a long way to go before they're a serious contender.
> by KPTK. My question
> is, how high will it go?
>
It's a different story 25-54...KQBZ is over a full share higher than KPTK. I think the station has potential but it still has a long way to go before they're a serious contender.
Re: KNBQ (the first one)
> > KNBQ I think started the CHR format in the Northwest on FM
>
> > as "Super Q" in early 1981 with KUBE following shortly
> after
>
> I had just left KNBQ before they took a stab at doing CHR
> for real. They were KTNT-FM for a long time, and then
> separated the identity with new calls (early 1970's, I
> believe). It was automated ... and when I was part of the
> mess, it was run by a rather interesting brain trust (still
> owned by the News Tribune, so they had some $$ behind them).
>
>
> GM at the time was a sales person who hit a career high with
> that GM appointment. He brought in the best possible talent
> he could find as the PD (read "someone who would kiss his
> ???") -- specifically, the guy who used to be all-nite jock
> for KISW. That means the approach was very
> m-e-l-----l-----o-----w. No talking over the music, no
> upbeat presentation ... just dish out Top 40 music with an
> AOR attitude. Uh-huh.
I knew 97.3 sounded like a rock station with a almost interchangable jocks with KZOK when I first noticed it. Then somewhere around the end of 1980-early '81, they picked up the tempo.
The KNBQ I remember the most had Sean Lynch, Dancin' Danny Wright, Ron Harris, Beau "Rockin'" Roberts.
Very frustrating to have worked for
> some awesome radio stations and then be in the presence of
> complete dullness in a somewhat forced mentorship.
>
> Meanwhile, they began thinking about taking the whole game
> seriously -- and built actual REAL studios which would house
> live jocks. That's about the time I got bagged (serious
> attitude problem ... go figure), and not too long after I
> left they turned the mother into a REAL radio station (with
> a new management regime, including eventually, Gary Bryan as
> PD and Jack Bankson as GM). Wish I had seen that future in
> the tea leaves; but at the time I couldn't muster enough
> respect for the moron we had as the PD to even go in there
> every day. I was young --- but already loaded with
> attitude. He called me in to "discipline me" one day .. and
> said I would have 2 weeks to come up with better attitude
> and that I had to show at least 50% improvement. I asked if
> I could simply achieve 50% with expectation I would have to
> kiss his ass using BOTH lips. At that point, my two week
> "opportunity" vanished immediately; but there was never any
> question that it was worth it.
I've had to talk back to some of my PDs, not out of attitude necessarily (but they hired me KNOWING that came with the package), but if they hired me expecting me to deliver as promised, then don't micro-manage me or contradict yourself in front of my face and let me do my job. Which is to serve and entertain (and maybe have a little fun) to the very best of my abilities-of which they also hired me knowing of. That isn't asking for much.
And usually the only thing that wasn't working was the music. Listeners heard that more than they heard me-music isn't just the wallpaper behind the jock, it's just as important. I'm not going to shovel Celine Dion's latest piece of overplayed crap down the throats of people who wanted to hear Sublime (and it wasn't just my ratings going down, being the overnight guy. Everybody else suffered-but HOW DARE WE EVEN QUESTION THE PD?!) That was 1998 I may add.
If the kids wanted to hear that, then the kids should get what they want. They're the ones in the end, who are paying the station's bills. Not the PD who wants a more "sophisticated" demographic/presentation to match his/her fantasy lifestyle. My job was to serve them the best way I knew how (and friendly, permitted peeks into their own personal CD wallets helped, which a lot of young people carry with them.) A great indicator from street level just who's listening to what - you'd be surprised how much indie label stuff in whatever genre you find in them these days that do not get played on commercial radio.
It's that personal contact and relation to your listener's music that's missing in a lot of radio. These days, people can get their music anywhere. It is better in the long run to pay attention at that level than numbers on paper alone. You might even see a jump in numbers if you let your jocks follow their instincts, rather than just what the radio s--t sheets say what's hot now. Which is often outdated by the time this info gets to them. You can see that painfully on KMTT, KISW, KNDD and KUBE...
>
> Some talented people spent time at that facility &
> frequency. I was just sorry those guys weren't among them.
>
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> > KNBQ I think started the CHR format in the Northwest on FM
>
> > as "Super Q" in early 1981 with KUBE following shortly
> after
>
> I had just left KNBQ before they took a stab at doing CHR
> for real. They were KTNT-FM for a long time, and then
> separated the identity with new calls (early 1970's, I
> believe). It was automated ... and when I was part of the
> mess, it was run by a rather interesting brain trust (still
> owned by the News Tribune, so they had some $$ behind them).
>
>
> GM at the time was a sales person who hit a career high with
> that GM appointment. He brought in the best possible talent
> he could find as the PD (read "someone who would kiss his
> ???") -- specifically, the guy who used to be all-nite jock
> for KISW. That means the approach was very
> m-e-l-----l-----o-----w. No talking over the music, no
> upbeat presentation ... just dish out Top 40 music with an
> AOR attitude. Uh-huh.
I knew 97.3 sounded like a rock station with a almost interchangable jocks with KZOK when I first noticed it. Then somewhere around the end of 1980-early '81, they picked up the tempo.
The KNBQ I remember the most had Sean Lynch, Dancin' Danny Wright, Ron Harris, Beau "Rockin'" Roberts.
Very frustrating to have worked for
> some awesome radio stations and then be in the presence of
> complete dullness in a somewhat forced mentorship.
>
> Meanwhile, they began thinking about taking the whole game
> seriously -- and built actual REAL studios which would house
> live jocks. That's about the time I got bagged (serious
> attitude problem ... go figure), and not too long after I
> left they turned the mother into a REAL radio station (with
> a new management regime, including eventually, Gary Bryan as
> PD and Jack Bankson as GM). Wish I had seen that future in
> the tea leaves; but at the time I couldn't muster enough
> respect for the moron we had as the PD to even go in there
> every day. I was young --- but already loaded with
> attitude. He called me in to "discipline me" one day .. and
> said I would have 2 weeks to come up with better attitude
> and that I had to show at least 50% improvement. I asked if
> I could simply achieve 50% with expectation I would have to
> kiss his ass using BOTH lips. At that point, my two week
> "opportunity" vanished immediately; but there was never any
> question that it was worth it.
I've had to talk back to some of my PDs, not out of attitude necessarily (but they hired me KNOWING that came with the package), but if they hired me expecting me to deliver as promised, then don't micro-manage me or contradict yourself in front of my face and let me do my job. Which is to serve and entertain (and maybe have a little fun) to the very best of my abilities-of which they also hired me knowing of. That isn't asking for much.
And usually the only thing that wasn't working was the music. Listeners heard that more than they heard me-music isn't just the wallpaper behind the jock, it's just as important. I'm not going to shovel Celine Dion's latest piece of overplayed crap down the throats of people who wanted to hear Sublime (and it wasn't just my ratings going down, being the overnight guy. Everybody else suffered-but HOW DARE WE EVEN QUESTION THE PD?!) That was 1998 I may add.
If the kids wanted to hear that, then the kids should get what they want. They're the ones in the end, who are paying the station's bills. Not the PD who wants a more "sophisticated" demographic/presentation to match his/her fantasy lifestyle. My job was to serve them the best way I knew how (and friendly, permitted peeks into their own personal CD wallets helped, which a lot of young people carry with them.) A great indicator from street level just who's listening to what - you'd be surprised how much indie label stuff in whatever genre you find in them these days that do not get played on commercial radio.
It's that personal contact and relation to your listener's music that's missing in a lot of radio. These days, people can get their music anywhere. It is better in the long run to pay attention at that level than numbers on paper alone. You might even see a jump in numbers if you let your jocks follow their instincts, rather than just what the radio s--t sheets say what's hot now. Which is often outdated by the time this info gets to them. You can see that painfully on KMTT, KISW, KNDD and KUBE...
>
> Some talented people spent time at that facility &
> frequency. I was just sorry those guys weren't among them.
>
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