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AIR AMERICA MOVES

jkb said:
Did they even have 1 minority host???

Tis better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

On day one, AAR had Mark Riley and Chuck D every morning.

Riley has stayed throughout, and Chuck D still does a weekend show with Gia'na Garel.

AAR just recently added a Saturday afternoon program with Rev. Dr. James Forbes, Jr. of New York's Riverside Church.

But let's face it, you don't really care whether AAR has any black talent; you were just looking for an opportunity to slam them for no particular reason. You weren't about to let your abject ignorance of their programming stop you.
 
Scribbler said:
tombetz said:
jayedwards said:
Has a deal been officially announced between WLIB-Inner City radio and Randy Michaels? (for lib talk on am1190) (for Sept. 1 )

A promo announcing the change aired just a few minutes ago on WLIB.

I've been listening to WLIB for more than a hour and haven't heard any such promo. What did it say? Seems strange that they would be promoting a change of stations that won't happen for another four weeks.

They are quickies, pushing the number 1600. They've been running them all day.
 
Remember WWRL Was "100% Pure Soul"

kfsr said:
WWRL in spite of all of its changes, was a black radio station, is a black radio station, and has never made itself particularly accessible to white people. Now Air America arrives to chase Black Adults off of yet another radio station.

Let's hope they bury the call letters...because WWRL by any other format is a Black radio station.

Let me explain something. Air America is moving to WWRL, I would like to hold off for a second that WWRL was a radio station that played classic R&B oldies where they used the slogan as "100% Pure Soul". That brings back those memories. That was in the mid or late 90's where WWRL was a classic R&B station. I missed that station so much.
 
AIR AMERICA MOVES .... I'm confused!

kfsr said:
WWRL in spite of all of its changes, was a black radio station, is a black radio station, and has never made itself particularly accessible to white people. Now Air America arrives to chase Black Adults off of yet another radio station.

What is this "has never made itself particularly accessible to white people" crap.... used in reference to two different stations today.

Aren't honkies allowed to listen?

Does the PD steal white folks' tuning dials or car radio push-buttons to keep the stations inaccessible?

Are black stations supposed to be exempt from flips? Some new kind of affirmative action?

I'm confused about this "accessible" stuff. please explain.

73s
 
This injection of race into a radio format is a circus side show event. When AAR is involved, it seems people who have a problem with the libtalk concept will pull out all of the stops in an effort to attack it.

Ultimately, all this means is that the format changed stations in the market. Big deal. It happens every single day. If WCBS-FM dropped its old oldies format or even a news simulcast for R&B favorites, does that mean they ruined it for white people? I didn't realize there is an advocacy for apartheid radio in the nation's number one market! Are African-American audiences forbidden to listen to AAR? Let me read the tea leaves to suggest that the African American audience is going to find more to agree with on WWRL with Chuck D on AAR than they are listening to Rush, Sean, or Mr. Savage.

The only relevant news here is that AAR will remain on the air in NYC. This, despite the dozens of reports of AAR's imminent demise by folks like Bill O'Reilly and an unemployed former right wing radio host who is trying to bootstrap his career by running an Attack AAR Blog who have suggested AAR is dead on the vine... in 2004, 2005, and now 2006.
 
I want to jump back on and clarify my statement about what makes a radio station accessible to a group of people. An old line traditional African American community radio station, and by this we're not talking about WRKS and WBLS, talks almost exclusively to it's own constituency. I'm refering to radio stations such as WWRL, WLIB, and WHAT in Philadelphia. Their mission for decades has been to serve the wants needs and desires of the city's black community...and there's nothing wrong with that. As they shed their music programming, those station addreessed those needs by increasing talk programming, aimed at their original core of listeners...people who grew up having WWRL, WLIB and WHAT as members of their family. Sure, they never asked any white listeners to shut the radio off, but the race rhetoric and angst increased, making the station inaccessible to the people to whom the rhetoric and angst was directed. Plus, those stations were so well known by name for the audience they served, many non-blacks just never sampled them thinking there was nothing directed at them. WWRL, in my opinion, is a very good sounding broad based urban issues talk radio station, which no longer shows up in the book, because WWRL has never gone out of it's "community" to tell it's potential audience of people from all races and backgrounds that they should listen.

When was the last time you saw WWRL do anything that built cume?

It's a station that plays to the people who haven't found a good enough reason to leave it. Liberal talk with white hosts alienates the radio station's core of Black listeners. Of course it can be argued that WWRL has little or nothing left to lose, but it's a very good sounding and focused radio station that will be lost.
 
Re: Remember WWRL Was "100% Pure Soul"

disney fanatic said:
kfsr said:
WWRL in spite of all of its changes, was a black radio station, is a black radio station, and has never made itself particularly accessible to white people. Now Air America arrives to chase Black Adults off of yet another radio station.

Let's hope they bury the call letters...because WWRL by any other format is a Black radio station.

Let me explain something. Air America is moving to WWRL, I would like to hold off for a second that WWRL was a radio station that played classic R&B oldies where they used the slogan as "100% Pure Soul". That brings back those memories. That was in the mid or late 90's where WWRL was a classic R&B station. I missed that station so much.

Okay, I'll veer off topic because anytime AAR is mentioned, it becomes a 'monkeys throwing feces' fest.

I agree with you. I miss music on AM. A station here in town was classic R&B until a year or two ago, when they went urban talk. Sure, FM has the clarity suited for music, but AM has the warmth.

I got a little warm and fuzzy the other day going through some old airchecks of AM Top 40 stations. That stuff was ALIVE! Now radio seems to be a pristine hard drive cranking out voicetracks and badly compressed hits. Hell, most of the music recorded today sounds so muddy it may as well have been recorded in mono.

But I'm going off track here. You all may now continue flinging the feces.
 
kfsr said:
Liberal talk with white hosts alienates the radio station's core of Black listeners.

Duuuuuh. Has any station ever flipped without alienating core listeners?

Are black listeners supposed to be exempt from being alienated by a flip? I don't think congress has passed a law protecting them from that yet.

I can't think of any flip more alienating and offensive than classical WTMI's flip on 12/31/01 to become Party 93.1, starting with "Shut The **** Up And Dance" (in Miami).

I may not care for AAR, but alienating core listeners is not a valid argument against them.

Now flipping oldies WWKB to become AAR, in a market that already has a libtalk station (Buffalo) -- that was dumb!

73s
 
Now flipping oldies WWKB to become AAR, in a market that already has a libtalk station (Buffalo) -- that was dumb!

WWKB has nothing to do with Air America. Bill Press, Stephanie Miller, Leslie Marshall, Ed Schultz, and Lionel are all progressive talkers who are in COMPETITION with Air America. All progressive talk is NOT Air America. Get used to it.
 
Scribbler said:
Now flipping oldies WWKB to become AAR, in a market that already has a libtalk station (Buffalo) -- that was dumb!

WWKB has nothing to do with Air America. Bill Press, Stephanie Miller, Leslie Marshall, Ed Schultz, and Lionel are all progressive talkers who are in COMPETITION with Air America. All progressive talk is NOT Air America. Get used to it.

Is it the OTHER liberal Buffalo station that's AAR? Nevermind.

Stephanie Miller is OK, but like Laura Ingraham, there's too much giggling and making fun of the competition and too little substance.

If Schultz wasn't so liberal, he'd make a decent moderate talker. I like him, too.

73s
 
Well I didn't know that he leased the station to another majority white liberal station. Nothing wrong with liberals. I am a democrat. The problem I have is that there were no Primetime shows featuring Latin Americans or African Americans even though those shows exist. If you have XM Radio there is a station "The Power" A great station I listen to everyday. The hosts didn't just start yesterday. They have been working radio for years. Get one of those personalities to join one of these stations. Find a English/Spanish talker and get him on. All I know is that they must get rid of Al Franken. The worst worst worst show on the radio
 
jkb said:
Well I didn't know that he leased the station to another majority white liberal station. Nothing wrong with liberals. I am a democrat. The problem I have is that there were no Primetime shows featuring Latin Americans or African Americans even though those shows exist. If you have XM Radio there is a station "The Power" A great station I listen to everyday. The hosts didn't just start yesterday. They have been working radio for years. Get one of those personalities to join one of these stations. Find a English/Spanish talker and get him on. All I know is that they must get rid of Al Franken. The worst worst worst show on the radio

You likely mean "Hispanics" or "Latinos" I am guessing. Latin Americans are people in Countries outside the US in Latin America, not the US. In any case, there is a voce for Hispanics in NY, and it is WADO, which is a news and talk station for Hispanics. It is on 24/7, so there definitely IS a place for Latinos... including the prime time of 6 AM to 7 PM.
 
DavidEduardo said:
Latin Americans are people in Countries outside the US in Latin America, not the US.

Then please define African Americans.

(I'm not disagreeing with your definition; just noticed the incongruity!)

;D

73s
 
Re: AIR AMERICA MOVES- We minorities and liberals need AAR badly!!

As a black woman I too was concerned about Air America (AAR) not having enough minority representation -

However I learned to support AAR to the max and to see it like this:

Wealthy "minorities" didn't see fit to put together a liberal progressive radio station like AAR before-
Why didn't Oprah, Jay-Z, or Chris Rock (who I love to hear get political!) do it first !???

Minorities CAN find a way to do the same if they really want to!- tough or not !! We've done it before and we still do it now when so motivated!!

BUT to me it seems most MINORITIES are too busy ALL the time pushing party time media stuff like Hip hop, Rap or Reggaeton
-some of which I do love!
BUT it does me NO GOOD with a dysfunctional government that controls everything else in my life!

I love to dance too but times are serious now-
We are almost in WWIII and our constitutional rights and jobs are disappearing along with our salaries every day!!
National debt is in the trillions and our young military people are wounded or dying in Iraq daily because of governmental incompetence and lies!!

We need AAR to tell us to quit freakin' dancing, dump the sports for a while and pay attention!
We need AAR to remind our asses of this daily!!


So please stop "Hatin' " on AAR being too white!! It is necessary no matter what color it comes in!!

AAR is desperately needed to help rally progressives and/or Democrats and to challenge neo-consevative lies and media spin coming
from the Limbaugh, Hannity and O'Reilly crew.

....and OF COURSE PEOPLE WHO MAINLY AGREE ON STUFF ARE GOING TO WORK TOGETHER!!

How do you think that FOOL "DUBYA" that we are now forced to call a "President' got into office twice?
BECAUSE HIS PARTY KNOWS HOW TO WORK TOGETHER! They stick together no matter what most of the time!!
And we got stuck with a Murdering Moron for their troubles!

AAR's mission is to help Progressive democrats come together and gain knowledge for the benefit of the many NOT only for the wealthy and elite!!

I also pray that like a cat AAR shall have many, many lives in the face of adversity!
I listen to AAR all day and it gives me hope of a new day in the face of the living nightmare of America's constitutional violations and its criminal government!

It already has made a difference in giving Democratic candidates greater exposure which will let the voices of minorities be further heard if they can take the house back from republicans this November!

And in conclusion AAR does have minority show hosts- BUT mainly on Sundays!

They are-

On the real With Chuck D from Public Enemy 11a-1p Sundays,
Former NYC Mayor David Dinkins is on Sunday mornings after
Sharp Talk with Al Sharpton,
there's also Workin It on Saturdays 2p-3p with Jackie Jackie Guerra -a latina and
The Time is Now with the Rev Dr James Forbes jr (a black man) on sunday afternoons.

Not a lot but they are there!

If that's still not colored enough for some of you then write to Oprah or JAY-Z and ask them to consider participating in AAR or start a minority only station or just go out and start a minority radio station yourself!!

Also before you folks out there go posting statements try to know what you are talking about! "AND QUIT HATIN on AAR".

Peace out!
 
Re: AIR AMERICA MOVES- We minorities and liberals need AAR badly!!

masani3 said:
On the real With Chuck D from Public Enemy 11a-1p Sundays,
Former NYC Mayor David Dinkins is on Sunday mornings after
Sharp Talk with Al Sharpton,
there's also Workin It on Saturdays 2p-3p with Jackie Jackie Guerra -a latina and
The Time is Now with the Rev Dr James Forbes jr (a black man) on sunday afternoons.

Don't forget Mark Riley weekdays from 5-7 AM, though he and Wayne..................Gilman probably won't make the move to 1600 in September.
 
gr8oldies said:
It doesn't matter whose behind it..if it's a "cause" not a business, it's not going to work.

Translation: Only the Conservative Republican message is "business." Everything else is a "cause." It's strange that Clear Channel, CBS Radio, Entercom and other successful businesses that operate progressive talk stations don't see that!
 
tombetz said:
Don't forget Mark Riley weekdays from 5-7 AM, though he and Wayne..................Gilman probably won't make the move to 1600 in September.

I much prefer Wayne Gilman to the two women who too often do the midday newscasts. Wish they'd bring back JoAnne Allen -- or maybe Katherine Lanpher would be interested.
 
Scribbler said:
gr8oldies said:
It doesn't matter whose behind it..if it's a "cause" not a business, it's not going to work.

Translation: Only the Conservative Republican message is "business." Everything else is a "cause." It's strange that Clear Channel, CBS Radio, Entercom and other successful businesses that operate progressive talk stations don't see that!

So is a company like, say, Salem doing it as 'business' or a 'cause'?
 
gr8oldies said:
It doesn't matter whose behind it..if it's a "cause" not a business, it's not going to work.

They said that in 2004, 2005, and 2006. When they celebrate ten years on the air and O'Reilly is off the air for his eventual blowout, I wonder if we'll still be hearing it.
 
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